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Wouldn't recommend buying a Xiaomi phone (With MIUI), unless it has android one (pure Android). Your Google stuff never works right on Xiaomi phone. They simply destroyed Android with MIUI.
if this is true, no love then
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It is a good phone, but buyers need to know the following.

1. The Chinese version does not support Google Play. No Play store access.
2. You can flash the Global rom and get Google Play, but you have to keep the bootloader unlocked. Meaning no Android Pay and problems with bank apps.
3. No warranty.

If you don't care about 2, then it is a good phone at an amazing price.
Negative, Google Play is available in the Global ROM for MIUI. In addition it is available for download from the Mi Store. Instructions: http://en.miui.com/thread-724110-1-1.html
Also, anyone that is skilled enough to flash the Global ROM or a non-MiUI rom will know that add ons like Magisk will pass a SafetyNet check and Google Pay/Bank Apps will work normally. E.g. I'm on the LePro 3 and NFC works just fine on AICP. Same for Lineage and Treble ROMs.
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You see so many shill posts for this Chinese crap on here, especially "xiaomi."

Who in their right mind would buy something really expensive from a website called "joybuy?"

This is spam to the infinity.
Dont own one, nor am I planning to buy one - but the phone is legit, and quite cheap for its performance.

Review: https://www.androidauthority.com/...ew-876175/

Camera performance at DXOMark - https://www.dxomark.com/xiaomi-mi...ging-best/ (FWIW, it is rated higher than Pixel 2)
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No different than buying international phones from Amazon / eBay. And I would argue safer than Swappa as well.

This is an insane deal! I am in for one, my first Xiaomi ever. I was in China and really liked this phone in Xiaomi store. But it wasn't that much cheaper than say Oneplus 6.

Buying it cheaper here is kind of crazy.
Well if people buy a Huawei phone on Amazon, I'd think they'd have a lot more support since a quick search shows they are fulfilled by Amazon. You don't get anything comparable with these sorts of sites. Also, make sure you check the phone's bands to see if they are compatible with your network. Often times they have separate international versions of phones for that purpose.
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Dont own one, nor am I planning to buy one - but the phone is legit, and quite cheap for its performance.

Review: https://www.androidauthority.com/...ew-876175/ [androidauthority.com]

Camera performance at DXOMark - https://www.dxomark.com/xiaomi-mi...ging-best/ [dxomark.com] (FWIW, it is rated higher than Pixel 2)
Pixel 2 camera is not that great. I don't know why everyone praises the quality. Besides the Pixel 2 has massive lag issues.
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Negative, Google Play is available in the Global ROM for MIUI. In addition it is available for download from the Mi Store. Instructions: http://en.miui.com/thread-724110-1-1.html
Also, anyone that is skilled enough to flash the Global ROM or a non-MiUI rom will know that add ons like Magisk will pass a SafetyNet check and Google Pay/Bank Apps will work normally. E.g. I'm on the LePro 3 and NFC works just fine on AICP. Same for Lineage and Treble ROMs.
I mean, Magisk isn't really a full proof solution since the safety net bypass isn't guaranteed to work forever. Moreover, going the custom rom route can lead to a lot of headaches compared to a stock experience even for "expert" users. Anecdotally speaking, I've had to flash many different roms on my phone before I ended up using Lineage (which still has issues) due to bugs, things not working like IR blasters, apps force closing randomly etc. While it does work, I'm not sure if the headache is worth it for a lot of people. Going the custom rom route also means no more Xiaomi Camera (at least on my device) and the google camera from the Pixel phones is not a sustainable solution due to many infuriating auto crashes and errors. Again, this is all from my experience of having a Xiaomi device for the past year (Redmi Note 4, bought it at launch) and while that device many not have as much support as this one, I think they're pretty similar.
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You can install Google Service easily from Mi Store no?
Google is banned in China, so Mi Store cannot host the Google Service apk. You can find a 3rd party Google Service apk from Mi Store and after you enable Unknown Source, you should be able to install it. Whether the apk is safe or Google service runs without errors on MIUI, I have no idea.
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Google is banned in China, so Mi Store cannot host the Google Service apk. You can find a 3rd party Google Service apk from Mi Store and after you enable Unknown Source, you should be able to install it. Whether the apk is safe or Google service runs without errors on MIUI, I have no idea.
http://en.miui.com/thread-3154107-1-1.html

Open China AppStore, search "google", find the package and just flollow the instruction.

You can also do a manual installation if you like with XDA instructions.

I thought Oneplus 6 was a good deal and getting pretty much the same phone (actually, a little better in most aspects on hardware front) for $362 is an amazing deal. I don't see this being any different than buying international phones from eBay. If anything this company being backed by jd.com (a major vendor in China) is probably safer.
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http://en.miui.com/thread-3154107-1-1.html

Open China AppStore, search "google", find the package and just flollow the instruction.

You can also do a manual installation if you like with XDA instructions.

I thought Oneplus 6 was a good deal and getting pretty much the same phone (actually, a little better in most aspects on hardware front) for $362 is an amazing deal. I don't see this being any different than buying international phones from eBay. If anything this company being backed by jd.com (a major vendor in China) is probably safer.
I am not saying it is hard to do. I just explained the situation in China. Due to local laws, Mi Store cannot host the Google Service apk, and it points you to a 3rd part search engine. The search engine finds a 3rd party Google Service (not from Mi Store) apk that you can install. It is similar to searching any apk on the internet and not through the Play Store.
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I mean, Magisk isn't really a full proof solution since the safety net bypass isn't guaranteed to work forever. Moreover, going the custom rom route can lead to a lot of headaches compared to a stock experience even for "expert" users. Anecdotally speaking, I've had to flash many different roms on my phone before I ended up using Lineage (which still has issues) due to bugs, things not working like IR blasters, apps force closing randomly etc. While it does work, I'm not sure if the headache is worth it for a lot of people. Going the custom rom route also means no more Xiaomi Camera (at least on my device) and the google camera from the Pixel phones is not a sustainable solution due to many infuriating auto crashes and errors. Again, this is all from my experience of having a Xiaomi device for the past year (Redmi Note 4, bought it at launch) and while that device many not have as much support as this one, I think they're pretty similar.
As long as no OTA or dirty flash is done, a working Magisk solution that is flashed is guaranteed to work - forever on the unique ROM. As with custom ROMs, no single rom is built to work with all devices. Compatibility and stability depends on a particular phones Hardware Build(Model/Release) and Software(Kernel, Firmware, Android version, Custom Rom etc.) - this is why on XDA for each type of phone build, there are different versions - from Android 6.0 all the way to 8.12 (oreo) and of course the latest Treble that is in the works. This is all open source and contributed ROMs that are developed by a community, there will always be "Official, Unofficial and Stable/Experimental releases".
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As long as no OTA or dirty flash is done, a working Magisk solution that is flashed is guaranteed to work - forever on the distinct ROM. As with custom ROMs, no single rom is built to work with all devices. Compatibility and stability depends on a particular phones Hardware Build(Model/Release) and Software(Kernel, Firmware, Android version, Custom Rom etc.) - this is why on XDA for each type of phone build, there are different versions - from Android 6.0 all the way to 8.12 (oreo) and of course the latest Treble that is in the works. This is all open source and contributed ROMs that are developed by a community, there will always be "Official, Unofficial and Stable/Experimental releases".
If it is guaranteed to work forever, why do I have to keep updating Magisk to make sure it bypasses Safetynet? Like, wouldn't they not need to update it to keep being able to bypass Safetynet? Of course not all Roms are supposed to work on all devices, that is not relevant to what I said about ROM's being a headache to deal with supported or not. Not sure why you copy pasted the definition of a ROM. Again, there being multiple ROMs (which I suggested in my post) does not imply that they are bug free ROMs and that they will be worked on forever. Often times, people stop updating ROM's with time. That happened to my old device. You won't get the latest security updates due to that and hence are taking a risk by flashing.
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Also, anyone that is skilled enough to flash the Global ROM or a non-MiUI rom will know that add ons like Magisk will pass a SafetyNet check and Google Pay/Bank Apps will work normally. E.g. I'm on the LePro 3 and NFC works just fine on AICP. Same for Lineage and Treble ROMs.
LePro3 is a little different story than this one, isn't it? I don't see it supported anywhere. I'm looking at xda-developers, and this phone is not there. LineageOS also does not support this phone. Where would you be getting ROMs to flash?
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If it is guaranteed to work forever, why do I have to keep updating Magisk to make sure it bypasses Safetynet? Like, wouldn't they not need to update it to keep being able to bypass Safetynet? Of course not all Roms are supposed to work on all devices, that is not relevant to what I said about ROM's being a headache to deal with supported or not. Not sure why you copy pasted the definition of a ROM. Again, there being multiple ROMs (which I suggested in my post) does not imply that they are bug free ROMs and that they will be worked on forever. Often times, people stop updating ROM's with time. That happened to my old device. You won't get the latest security updates due to that and hence are taking a risk by flashing.
Try checking XDA if there is an updated or stable release for your ROM. Magisk wont 'stop working' all of a sudden without a reason as V15 and up has a persistent mode built in. The version you are on is definitely having issues if it is not stable - or you have conflicting software or apps that are interfering with Magisk running in the background. The open source and XDA community runs in the millions, there are plentiful of adoptions that are running successfully regardless of device/model/location. Good Luck .Peace
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Try checking XDA if there is an updated or stable release for your ROM. Magisk wont 'stop working' all of a sudden without a reason as V15 and up has a persistent mode built in. The version you are on is definitely having issues if it is not stable - or you have conflicting software or apps that are interfering with Magisk running in the background. The open source and XDA community runs in the millions, there are plentiful of adoptions that are running successfully regardless of device/model/location. Good Luck .https://static.slickdealscdn.com/ima...ies2/peace.gif
I'm not saying Magisk itself stops working but the Safetynet bypass. You still are able to use it a Superuser manager like SuperSU but you aren't able to download things like Netflix or use Google Pay anymore. I'm on version 15 and I had to update it a couple of times to alleviate that a couple of months ago. Right now, it's refusing to install on my Treble ROM (resurrection remix) for some reason so if you know anyway to do solve that besides asking on XDA (which I did already a bunch) please let me know. At this point I would hate to reflash again since I've installed a ton of apps etc. Oh well, I guess it's a part of the process.
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I'm not saying Magisk itself stops working but the Safetynet bypass. You still are able to use it a Superuser manager like SuperSU but you aren't able to download things like Netflix or use Google Pay anymore. I'm on version 15 and I had to update it a couple of times to alleviate that a couple of months ago. Right now, it's refusing to install on my Treble ROM (resurrection remix) for some reason so if you know anyway to do solve that besides asking on XDA (which I did already a bunch) please let me know. At this point I would hate to reflash again since I've installed a ton of apps etc. Oh well, I guess it's a part of the process.
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I'm not saying Magisk itself stops working but the Safetynet bypass. You still are able to use it a Superuser manager like SuperSU but you aren't able to download things like Netflix or use Google Pay anymore. I'm on version 15 and I had to update it a couple of times to alleviate that a couple of months ago. Right now, it's refusing to install on my Treble ROM (resurrection remix) for some reason so if you know anyway to do solve that besides asking on XDA (which I did already a bunch) please let me know. At this point I would hate to reflash again since I've installed a ton of apps etc. Oh well, I guess it's a part of the process.
I'm not sure which phone/model you are on. I am on the LePro3 at the moment and Google Pay, Netflix, Bofa, VisaPaywave all work fine with no issues. Unfortunately I am not a developer and cannot assist with your specific issue - One thing I can point out is Treble is also at a very experimental and beta public stage, you might want to roll back to a stable ROM version of Nougat or Oreo for your phone.

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