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2400g With motherboard for $161.98 http://www.microcenter.com/produc...ard-bundle
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2400g With motherboard for $161.98 http://www.microcenter.com/produc...ard-bundle
Great price, but the reviews of that Mobo are pretty bad. It would need the BIOS updated to work with the latest gen Ryzens too.

I think there were complaints about lack of display port in conjunction with the Ryzen APUs and getting 60Hz, though I understand HDMI 2.0 devices should be G2G.

Moot point for Chicago, as it's sold out =/
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AMD is going to supply China with a Ryzen chip that will pair this kind of Ryzen core with GDDR5, for a Windows PC and a game console. DDR4 is a comparatively large bottleneck for the GPU portion of the 2400G and 2200G.

What is not known is whether AMD will release this part to the consumer market or restrict it to consoles. If it is released, it will offer quite a lot of performance over the DDR4 used in these. The 8 GB of GDDR5 is built into the chip, apparently. I doubt, though, that the AM4 socket can support a drop-in. But, if that were possible it would certainly be interesting for US buyers, provided the chip would be made available for a competitive price.

The clock of the CPU is lower than the 2400G but the graphics performance is much much better. However, if the 8 GB is divided into 4 + 4 (4 GB graphics, 4 GB program RAM) then it would put a squeeze on PC games which aren't designed for that kind of small program RAM space.

Quote from eurogamer :
New hardware set for a Chinese launch in the next month takes the form of a Windows PC, with a dedicated console using a custom OS due later this year.

But this initial Windows PC release will have a hardware make-up quite unlike any other. The semi-custom silicon takes the form of a fully integrated SoC (system on chip) combining x86 Ryzen processor cores with AMD Radeon graphics - in this case RX Vega technology, with 24 compute units at 1.3GHz for 3.99 teraflops of GPU power. Combining Ryzen and Vega into a single chip is nothing new - AMD has already done it with its excellent 'Raven Ridge' Ryzen 3 2200G and Ryzen 5 2400G APU products. However, the Subor project will clearly be more capable.

For a start, unlike Raven Ridge, DDR4 system RAM isn't used. Instead, the new processor is connected to 8GB of GDDR5 - just like PlayStation 4 and PS4 Pro. This offers a vast increase in memory bandwidth, eliminating the primary graphics bottleneck AMD's APUs suffer from. The use of GDDR5 means that the Subor chip can basically double Raven Ridge's compute power with far less possibility of hitting memory bandwidth limits. Again, similar to PS4 and Pro, the GDDR5 memory controller is integrated into the chip itself.
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There's no news yet of an export option or any kind of international launch, so the chance of finding one of these systems at retail in the US seems low — and that's unfortunate because this looks like exactly the kind of APU people have previously wanted AMD to launch.

The ZongShan Subor Z+ will run Windows 10 IoT Enterprise.
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So, what AMD needs to do is either launch this here with 12 or 16 GB of RAM built in (8 GB for programs) or release another Ryzen board that enables snap-in GDDR5. But, the latter would require vendors to start selling GDDR5 sticks. AMD could do that itself. It already sells its own DDR4.
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Is this motherboard good?
Gigabyte B450 Aorus Pro Wifi AM
https://www.amazon.com/B450-AORUS...ro+Wifi+AM
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need 2700x on sell COME ON
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Microcenter please put a store in my state or sell these at this price online. Been waiting for a good deal on a Ryzen 5
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Microcenter please put a store in my state or sell these at this price online. Been waiting for a good deal on a Ryzen 5
Wait for the next 15%/20% off coupon from eBay. I got a Ryzen 2600x for $161.50.
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Is this motherboard good?
Gigabyte B450 Aorus Pro Wifi AM
https://www.amazon.com/B450-AORUS...ro+Wifi+AM
Obviously depends on what you intend to use it for.

Do you need that chipset, formfactor, or wifi?
Are you overclocking, adding multiple graphics cards, super-fast SSDs?
Some info on the chipsets seen here [pcworld.com].

Is it decent quality, sure, I'd say so.
Is it good for the price, assuming you truly need/want those features, I'd say not bad.
^Better if you bundle with Microcenter and get the $30 off.

If you don't need that exact chipset or formfactor, you can save significant $$
I haven't really reviewed this one, but for comparison, here's a similar board: LINK [microcenter.com]

For that savings, you could get a faster CPU with more cores with the 1800x [microcenter.com], but do you run applications/processes that would benefit from such cores?

Don't need the extra cores and don't game, or are a causal gamer, then the 2400g [microcenter.com] is at a pretty great price point with the extra $30 mobo offer - and can also be overclocked reasonably...
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Obviously depends on what you intend to use it for.

Do you need that chipset, formfactor, or wifi?
Are you overclocking, adding multiple graphics cards, super-fast SSDs?
Some info on the chipsets seen here [pcworld.com].

Is it decent quality, sure, I'd say so.
Is it good for the price, assuming you truly need/want those features, I'd say not bad.
^Better if you bundle with Microcenter and get the $30 off.

If you don't need that exact chipset or formfactor, you can save significant $$
I haven't really reviewed this one, but for comparison, here's a similar board: LINK [microcenter.com]


For that savings, you could get a faster CPU with more cores with the 1800x [microcenter.com], but do you run applications/processes that would benefit from such cores?

Don't need the extra cores and don't game, or are a causal gamer, then the 2400g [microcenter.com] is at a pretty great price point with the extra $30 mobo offer - and can also be overclocked reasonably...
So I understand that the 7 line is better than the 5 line, but how come the price of the 7-1800x is only $50 more than the 5-2600.

I'm familiar with the intel lines, but not so much with the AMDs. I do want to build a brand new computer (first time) that's a bit beefy. I'm trying to part things on sale, but still don't mind spending money on what I want.
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OK, sorrect me if i'm wrong... the 2400, for example, is the second geration of that chip. That's what the 2 stands for. Kind of like intel. I know the X is the flagship in their tier, but what does the g stand for?
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OK, sorrect me if i'm wrong... the 2400, for example, is the second geration of that chip. That's what the 2 stands for. Kind of like intel. I know the X is the flagship in their tier, but what does the g stand for?
The "g" refers to the APU (Accelerated Processing Unit) line vs CPU for having both CPU and GPU integrated.

The CPUs with an "x" are supposedly CPUs that tested slightly better upon manufacturing (binned better) - and come slightly more overclocked stock.
-Though all the Ryzen's are unlocked and overclockable from what I understand.

Here's a good link [anandtech.com] highlighting some of the differences between these CPUs.
Note that most motherboards and chipsets support both the last generation Ryzen and this new "second generation Ryzen" - though some older motherboards may require BIOS updates before you will be able to use the 2nd gen Ryzens, which is problematic for those ordering online without the ability to flash the BIOS by booting up with an older Ryzen CPU first.
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Would this be good for a media center build/general use build?
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Would this be good for a media center build/general use build?
Yessir
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