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Phanteks Evolv X Dual System Combo - $465 $444.97

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For those interested in running 2 computer systems simultaneously in one case (e.g. a gaming system and a separate streaming system or a home server),

Phanteksusa.com https://www.phanteksusa.com/colle...stem-combo has Phanteks Evolv X Dual System Combo for $464.97 (w/ 1,200W PSU) or $444.97 (w/ 1,000W PSU). Free shipping with code DUALSYS. The combo includes the Evolv X case, a 1,200W or 1,000W dual-system power supply, and an ITX upgrade kit.

How is this a deal at such a high price? The case by itself is $199.99 , the Platinum-rated power supply is (ouch!) $229.99 and $249.99 for the 1,000W and 1,200W units, respectively, and the ITX kit is $14.99. This is only a deal if you really like the Evolv X case asap (sold out right now) or want an ATX and a mini-ITX system in one case. The only other alternative I can think of is to go with Corsair 1000D @ $499.99 and 2 of the cheapest good Platinum-rated power supplies I could find on Newegg (EVGA 650W P2 @ $90 (AR) each. $500 + 2*$90 = $680. So getting the Phantecs combo turns out to be $215 cheaper than the only alternative solution I know (Phanteks' other dual-system case, the Mini XL, only supports microATX, no ATX).

I should probably also mention that if you want a GPU for your ITX system as well, Phanteks sells a riser cable separately for $30.

I ordered this for my dual-system project based on upcoming Intel's Z390 w/ 9900K (ATX) and AMD's X470 w/ Ryzen 2800x (mini-ITX).

Here's a review of the Evolv X case: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RX0wMcZO0-A . The PSU is brand new, so no reviews yet.
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A complex solution looking for a problem? Why not just run virtual machine?
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A complex solution looking for a problem? Why not just run virtual machine?
What problems would you anticipate? One reason I want a dual system is that if there's a problem with one system or it needs maintenance/upgrading, the other system will be up and running. I am a little worried about the thermals in this case with two systems running in it. (I am thinking NH-D15 for the ATX system and a 280mm top-mounted CLC for the mini-ITX system.) Is that what you had in mind?
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Or just get 2 cases.
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What problems would you anticipate? One reason I want a dual system is that if there's a problem with one system or it needs maintenance/upgrading, the other system will be up and running. I am a little worried about the thermals in this case with two systems running in it. (I am thinking NH-D15 for the ATX system and a 280mm top-mounted CLC for the mini-ITX system.) Is that what you had in mind?
So you plan on upgrading a system while another system right next to it is still up and running? With the spinning fans and PSU still turned on? This is the worst reason you can give and sounds like a good way to win a trip to the hospital as well as frying $2000 worth of hardware.

Running VMs is the better way to run multiple systems as it can save you a lot of money and better utilize the resource on your machine. You can easily get a 10Gbe connection between the two system with virtualization. If you want 10Gbe between two physical machine, that would cost you at least $200 and would consume your mITX pcie slot. Using VM does require some amount of setup and certain hardware can have some problem. However, you can make the experience very seamless if you have the right hardware/software. Took me over a month to work out the kinks but I am very satisfied with the end result.

I considered getting this case but for a different reason than yours. I plan to use the mITX slot for a low power server. I thought of using my workstation(12 core, 64gb ram, 2 gpu, pcie optane, 1 ssd, 2 hdd) to virtualize the server but it would cost too much electricity(~$280 extra per year) to have it running 24/7. I am also space constrained so I don't have much room to fit another atx rig, which is why I considered this case.

However, I decided to build a separate small mATX build for my server instead as it would be cheaper solution and there is more PCIE slots for 10GBe network, video card, sata port, ect ect.

Building two system in one case is definitely the cooler solution but not that practical.

If you have a powerful enough PSU, you can consider getting the power splitter(~$40) from Phanteks which splits your PSU power to two motherboard/CPU. No need to buy a new PSU for this case if you already have a sufficient one.
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So you plan on upgrading a system while another system right next to it is still up and running? With the spinning fans and PSU still turned on? This RAID 1 setup of yours sounds like the worst idea ever.

Running VMs is the better way to run multiple systems as it can save you a lot of money and better utilize the resource on your machine. You can easily get a 10Gbe connection between the two system with virtualization. If you want 10Gbe between two physical machine, that would cost you at least $200 and would consume your mITX pcie slot. Using VM does require some amount of setup and certain hardware can have some problem. However, you can make the experience very seamless if you have the right hardware/software. Took me over a month to work out the kinks but I am very satisfied with the end result.

I considered getting this case but for a different reason than yours. I plan to use the mITX slot for a low power server. I thought of using my workstation(12 core, 64gb ram, 2 gpu, pcie optane, 1 ssd, 2 hdd) to virtualize the server but it would cost too much electricity to have it running 24/7. I am also space constrained so I don't have much room to fit another atx rig, which is why I considered this case.

However, I decided to build a separate small mATX build for my server instead as it would be cheaper solution and there is more PCIE slots for 10GBe network, video card, sata port, ect ect.

Building two system in one case is definitely the cooler solution but not that practical.

If you have a powerful enough PSU, you can consider getting the power splitter(~$40) from Phanteks which splits your PSU power to two motherboard/CPU. No need to buy a new PSU for this case if you already have a sufficient one.
Thank you for sharing that.

1. I should have specified that I meant software maintenance/upgrades, not hot swapping components in and out of one system (powered down) within inches of the other (running).

2. I have been running VM's for quite a while until I ran into a problem recently. My Linux guest OS in VMWare 14 crashed and took down my Win 10 with it, so I ended up with an unresponsive system. All I could do is hit the reset button and then spend hours checking the integrity of WIndows and hard drives, uninstalling and re-installing VMWare and several guest operating systems. That has happened to me only once but was enough to give me an idea to consider a second physical system.

3. I have an EVGA 1,200W P2 PSU and I was considering getting just the Evovl X case and the Phanteks power splitter you mentioned for my dual system. But the case is sold out and I came across a few horrible reviews of the power splitter saying that no cables are included ($19 extra for each) and one review claimed the thing caught on fire. So, I decided to go with the combo deal.
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Nice case, but pricey and single point of failure power supply.
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Or just get 2 cases.
I agree. 2 power supplies and completely independent systems. If you don't have room for 2 cases, maybe you should first upgrade your living situation than spending 450 bucks on this.
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I agree. 2 power supplies and completely independent systems. If you don't have room for 2 cases, maybe you should first upgrade your living situation than spending 450 bucks on this.
The PSU in the combo is essentially 2 PSU's in one enclosure, so it can power two systems independently.

Maybe YOU should talk about things you KNOW.
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A complex solution looking for a problem? Why not just run virtual machine?
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