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you can stacked coupons on top of that and get $50 back in points.

I have been using this one for a few months now, it's a pretty solid router, I just picked up a second one today for my dad.
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Router bits come in 1/4 or 1/2 inch shank, and this router provides collets for both so in terms of types of bits you can use with the router you should be good. You normally wouldn't use a large diameter bit with a router hand-held. For those purposes, you'd want to mount it on a table in which case you would normally remove the base plate that comes with the router (transparent piece of plastic in the photos) and mount it on the router plate that comes with the router table (or purchased separately). When table-mounted, your limitation on bit diameter is determined by the size of the throat plate of the router table plate.

As for your second question, the only time I've used larger diameter bits are for cabinet making.
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Unpopular opinion but I'd pick DeWalt, Makita, or Bosch any day over this one.

I did a TON of research on routers earlier in the year. If you want to get quality, this is not it. If you are doing fine detailing, again I'd look elsewhere. If you want really good dust collection.. again, this still isn't it.

You pay more for the other brands but they're INSANELY more tested than this one. Same with Rigid. I know people here love Rigid but compared to a DeWalt or Bosch, just no. There's tiny little things you dont realize until you actually get it in your hands.

There's many reasons why all the brands mentioned (even Rigid's attempt at an all-in-one) is significantly more popular than this one. My favorite is DeWalt for sign carving (after seeing many of the top YouTubers use it, I tried compared to Bosh and prefered DeWalts screw on design, clear base, and it's LED position but also the fact that most jig blueprints seem to be for DeWalt's smaller router / base thus a guaranteed fit).

Just remember $90 can get you close to a top brand that's also on sale, only a $16 difference!

Edit: If you need pluge base, my suggestion if you're on a budget:

Makita RT0701CX7 1-1/4 HP

336 Reviews (Amazon)
4.6 Stars
$139 ($16 more than the Craftsman at full retail, Makita goes on sale too)

This one is at Bosch/DeWalts same level in regard to quality and precision (especially the plunge base). They even have a battery operated model so you can have a cordless, portable little router table even!

Edit 2: There are disadvantages some are conveniently NOT pointing out: (posted after this comment was made)

1. Yes this is the only router that can accept bigger bits and it does have a higher motor output but the other ones are designed to be PALM routers. This one, the only way to hold it is with a grip on either side. The other ones allow both options, one being to fit into the PALM of your hand while the other (using the plunger base) is to have a handle on both sides as different applications call for different setup so if you need more extreme control, you aren't holding handles that're spread awkwardly apart. Even the latest models for Makita and Rigid follow the design of a PALM router. I have tested more current routers than most people here, I can 100% assure you cutting through some very hard woods that what the top brands use is more than enough to cut through for a palm router.

You really need to decide rather you want to do delicate work or not because a palm router and this one are two different beasts. You'll find fine details are much much much better with a palm router, its why I went out and had to buy a second one, my other one was too big. Yet they can still handle literally everything the average home owner would be using for a router.

2. Jigs are the other thing, this is not a typical palm router that's small yet super powerful. This is a full sized router thus a lot of jigs you see wont work. A lot of custom made things on Etsy and Amazon wont work even if it was a DeWalt as they're designed for palm routers that're smaller in size, as its what most people who are doing intricate work but also want to do regular routing (cabinetry, frames, etc). In fact the #1 top seller on Amazon for accessories that's made by an individual in his shop is designed just for palm routers.

3. As far as the reviews are concerned, the reviews just for Makita has more than double the reviews.. and that's the bottom of the barrel for the 3 top brands, DeWalts kit has many times more than as does Bosch and thats just on Amazon. They're sold literally at every top major hardware store for a reason.

4. Bit size is important but the extremely ironic part is in Sears own commercial they're using the same exact kit I had bought for my DeWalt that have a smaller shank size! I find that really interesting, dont you? BTW the biggest bit they had (that took out the most wood) worked perfectly on white oak.. I'm thinking if it can handle white oak and a big bit, it can handle everything else. (I also use Whiteside bits, highly recommend but they're really expensive). '

5. Soft start. Okay yes, if you can get soft start, it's not an absolute deal breaker for 99% of woodworkers out there, but it's nice but using Bosch and DeWalt, I've NEVER had any super jerking motion like some have claimed.. not even with the largest bit I own. Also, if you want to nitpick, you should be looking at Brushless motors above soft start (Makita has brushless and battery powered).

6. Variable speed limitations are set to 6 variable speeds. That's it. Again, if you're wanting to do really find work, you probably would prefer to have the option of a lot more than 6 speed settings.. a lot of routers have a true speed dial that has a lot more than just 6 speed settings.

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Sorry for the wall of text, I'm trying to explain that this is not the most flexible router out there and you might run into many fitting issues down the road but more immediately, handling issues, especially if you want to do sign carving (it still can technically be done with a router like this, it's just a lot harder when dealing with letters, especially if you arent making a giant sign).
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Thanks OP, had $15 in free cash on tools which made it $80 after tax.
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Thanks OP, had $15 in free cash on tools which made it $80 after tax.
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So which coupon are we talking about here ?
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Is this a better choice then Makita RT0701C ($99 @ HD ) for cabinets project ?

I have zero experience with routers and the only thing I will be using it will be tounge and groove plus round edges? I have already done a small router table myself so I will be mounting it on it. Material is MDF and poplar. Any tips? My budget for router is $100
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Is this a better choice then Makita RT0701C ($99 @ HD ) for cabinets project ?

I have zero experience with routers and the only thing I will be using it will be tounge and groove plus round edges? I have already done a small router table myself so I will be mounting it on it. Material is MDF and poplar. Any tips? My budget for router is $100
Personally I think this one is better because it has both plunger and fixed base. Additional I personally like the soft start, it is certainly helpful if you're new at this. if you're just rounding out edges both of them should do the trick.
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one of the 1-star reviews mentions that this router base doesn't accept larger bits.

i'm new to routers, but how often would I need a larger bit size? is this a big deal?

here is the review:
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I purchased this router along with a craftsman router table and a box of craftsman router bits for a project I was working on. Everything went fairly smooth until I went to put a bit in the router. The bits that I wanted to use (3/8" round over) will not fit in the router sub plate that comes with the router. I went online to order a different sub plate with a larger hole and the only one I could find is the 6 piece set and come to find out that it is ONLY sold in Canada and they will NOT ship to the USA. In fact if you buy this router (or any router for that fact) from Sears and buy the bits you will not be able to use the larger bits because they are too big for the plate. They do not sell another plate in the U.S. I am not totally sure what they expect us to do. I did manage to get the 6 piece plate set but it was only because I know someone in Canada and I had it shipped to them and then they in turn shipped it to me. Unless you have a drill press and want to make your own plates I would suggest buying a DeWalt or Bosch or one of the name brands that actually sell plates in the U.S.

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one of the 1-star reviews mentions that this router base doesn't accept larger bits.

i'm new to routers, but how often would I need a larger bit size? is this a big deal?

here is the review:
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I purchased this router along with a craftsman router table and a box of craftsman router bits for a project I was working on. Everything went fairly smooth until I went to put a bit in the router. The bits that I wanted to use (3/8" round over) will not fit in the router sub plate that comes with the router. I went online to order a different sub plate with a larger hole and the only one I could find is the 6 piece set and come to find out that it is ONLY sold in Canada and they will NOT ship to the USA. In fact if you buy this router (or any router for that fact) from Sears and buy the bits you will not be able to use the larger bits because they are too big for the plate. They do not sell another plate in the U.S. I am not totally sure what they expect us to do. I did manage to get the 6 piece plate set but it was only because I know someone in Canada and I had it shipped to them and then they in turn shipped it to me. Unless you have a drill press and want to make your own plates I would suggest buying a DeWalt or Bosch or one of the name brands that actually sell plates in the U.S.

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Router bits come in 1/4 or 1/2 inch shank, and this router provides collets for both so in terms of types of bits you can use with the router you should be good. You normally wouldn't use a large diameter bit with a router hand-held. For those purposes, you'd want to mount it on a table in which case you would normally remove the base plate that comes with the router (transparent piece of plastic in the photos) and mount it on the router plate that comes with the router table (or purchased separately). When table-mounted, your limitation on bit diameter is determined by the size of the throat plate of the router table plate.

As for your second question, the only time I've used larger diameter bits are for cabinet making.
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Router bits come in 1/4 or 1/2 inch shank, and this router provides collets for both so in terms of types of bits you can use with the router you should be good. You normally wouldn't use a large diameter bit with a router hand-held. For those purposes, you'd want to mount it on a table in which case you would normally remove the base plate that comes with the router (transparent piece of plastic in the photos) and mount it on the router plate that comes with the router table (or purchased separately). When table-mounted, your limitation on bit diameter is determined by the size of the throat plate of the router table plate.

As for your second question, the only time I've used larger diameter bits are for cabinet making.

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Anyone know if this will work with the Bosch router table from a week or so ago?
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Anyone know if this will work with the Bosch router table from a week or so ago?
I have that Bosch table and a very similar Craftsman router (the one with the digital variable speed readout on top) and can confirm it fits. Screw patterns generally follow brand names so I imaging this is the same.
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I've had my eye on the Bosch 2-1/4 plunge/fixed on Amazon that's $220. How does this compare? Obviously different realm in terms of price, but not sure for occasional woodworker. TIA
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I got a similar Craftsman router around 2007 and I love it. It has the "soft start" feature and I honestly hate my other routers that are just suddenly ON. I got two Porter Cable routers for a great price a few years ago and they run up to speed instantly and it's sort of terrifying. The amount of torque that suddenly gets kicked through them is incredible. I'm always concerned it's going to jump out of my hand. 10/10 would go with the Craftsman just because of the soft start.
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Unpopular opinion but I'd pick DeWalt, Makita, or Bosch any day over this one.

I did a TON of research on routers earlier in the year. If you want to get quality, this is not it. If you are doing fine detailing, again I'd look elsewhere. If you want really good dust collection.. again, this still isn't it.

You pay more for the other brands but they're INSANELY more tested than this one. Same with Rigid. I know people here love Rigid but compared to a DeWalt or Bosch, just no. There's tiny little things you dont realize until you actually get it in your hands.

There's many reasons why all the brands mentioned (even Rigid's attempt at an all-in-one) is significantly more popular than this one. My favorite is DeWalt for sign carving (after seeing many of the top YouTubers use it, I tried compared to Bosh and prefered DeWalts screw on design, clear base, and it's LED position but also the fact that most jig blueprints seem to be for DeWalt's smaller router / base thus a guaranteed fit).

Just remember $90 can get you close to a top brand that's also on sale, only a $16 difference!

Edit: If you need pluge base, my suggestion if you're on a budget:

Makita RT0701CX7 1-1/4 HP

336 Reviews (Amazon)
4.6 Stars
$139 ($16 more than the Craftsman at full retail, Makita goes on sale too)

This one is at Bosch/DeWalts same level in regard to quality and precision (especially the plunge base). They even have a battery operated model so you can have a cordless, portable little router table even!

Edit 2: There are disadvantages some are conveniently NOT pointing out: (posted after this comment was made)

1. Yes this is the only router that can accept bigger bits and it does have a higher motor output but the other ones are designed to be PALM routers. This one, the only way to hold it is with a grip on either side. The other ones allow both options, one being to fit into the PALM of your hand while the other (using the plunger base) is to have a handle on both sides as different applications call for different setup so if you need more extreme control, you aren't holding handles that're spread awkwardly apart. Even the latest models for Makita and Rigid follow the design of a PALM router. I have tested more current routers than most people here, I can 100% assure you cutting through some very hard woods that what the top brands use is more than enough to cut through for a palm router.

You really need to decide rather you want to do delicate work or not because a palm router and this one are two different beasts. You'll find fine details are much much much better with a palm router, its why I went out and had to buy a second one, my other one was too big. Yet they can still handle literally everything the average home owner would be using for a router.

2. Jigs are the other thing, this is not a typical palm router that's small yet super powerful. This is a full sized router thus a lot of jigs you see wont work. A lot of custom made things on Etsy and Amazon wont work even if it was a DeWalt as they're designed for palm routers that're smaller in size, as its what most people who are doing intricate work but also want to do regular routing (cabinetry, frames, etc). In fact the #1 top seller on Amazon for accessories that's made by an individual in his shop is designed just for palm routers.

3. As far as the reviews are concerned, the reviews just for Makita has more than double the reviews.. and that's the bottom of the barrel for the 3 top brands, DeWalts kit has many times more than as does Bosch and thats just on Amazon. They're sold literally at every top major hardware store for a reason.

4. Bit size is important but the extremely ironic part is in Sears own commercial they're using the same exact kit I had bought for my DeWalt that have a smaller shank size! I find that really interesting, dont you? BTW the biggest bit they had (that took out the most wood) worked perfectly on white oak.. I'm thinking if it can handle white oak and a big bit, it can handle everything else. (I also use Whiteside bits, highly recommend but they're really expensive). '

5. Soft start. Okay yes, if you can get soft start, it's not an absolute deal breaker for 99% of woodworkers out there, but it's nice but using Bosch and DeWalt, I've NEVER had any super jerking motion like some have claimed.. not even with the largest bit I own. Also, if you want to nitpick, you should be looking at Brushless motors above soft start (Makita has brushless and battery powered).

6. Variable speed limitations are set to 6 variable speeds. That's it. Again, if you're wanting to do really find work, you probably would prefer to have the option of a lot more than 6 speed settings.. a lot of routers have a true speed dial that has a lot more than just 6 speed settings.

---------------------------------------------

Sorry for the wall of text, I'm trying to explain that this is not the most flexible router out there and you might run into many fitting issues down the road but more immediately, handling issues, especially if you want to do sign carving (it still can technically be done with a router like this, it's just a lot harder when dealing with letters, especially if you arent making a giant sign).
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