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Advanced syntax/boolean operators/other ways to customize deal alerts? All previous inquiries about this lead to broken links

70 141 September 18, 2018 at 03:10 PM
I'd like to narrow down the deal alerts I get by using some advanced syntax in deal alerts, but I can't find what sort of logic is available on your platform. Every link I've found is either dead or, if it has substantive info, is over ten years old.

E.g.

Deal Alerts FAQ (that appeared to have the content I wanted based on quotes from it, but those quotes are quite old and no idea if they still apply): https://slickdeals.net/forums/faq.php?faq=sd_faq_item#faq_deal_alerts_faq

This 2016 blog post gives cursory overview of deal alerts, but no one has responded to inquiries from those wanting more information on specifics: https://slickdeals.net/article/news/slickdeals-101-how-deal-alerts-save-you-time-and-money/

There is this 2015 reference to a post that seems on the right track ("Entirely Unofficial Deal Alert Keywords and Search String FAQ (a work in progress)"), but again, unofficial and not comprehensive: https://slickdeals.net/forums/showpost.php?p=67718300&postcount=540

And the New User Mega FAQ sticky doesn't address any of these issues: https://slickdeals.net/f/511057-new-user-guide-sd-faq-mega-thread

Can someone point me in the right direction? Or is it time to start trying to find someone else to give me deal notifications Frown ?

Thanks much.

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I'd like to narrow down the deal alerts I get by using some advanced syntax in deal alerts, but I can't find what sort of logic is available on your platform. Every link I've found is either dead or, if it has substantive info, is over ten years old.

E.g.

Deal Alerts FAQ (that appeared to have the content I wanted based on quotes from it, but those quotes are quite old and no idea if they still apply): https://slickdeals.net/forums/faq.php?faq=sd_faq_item#faq_deal_alerts_faq

This 2016 blog post gives cursory overview of deal alerts, but no one has responded to inquiries from those wanting more information on specifics: https://slickdeals.net/article/news/slickdeals-101-how-deal-alerts-save-you-time-and-money/

There is this 2015 reference to a post that seems on the right track ("Entirely Unofficial Deal Alert Keywords and Search String FAQ (a work in progress)"), but again, unofficial and not comprehensive: https://slickdeals.net/forums/showpost.php?p=67718300&postcount=540

And the New User Mega FAQ sticky doesn't address any of these issues: https://slickdeals.net/f/511057-new-user-guide-sd-faq-mega-thread

Can someone point me in the right direction? Or is it time to start trying to find someone else to give me deal notifications Frown ?

Thanks much.
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I think the Entirely Unofficial Deal Alert Keywords and Search String FAQ is our most up to date post on the topic (but I could be wrong) - is there something specific that you're trying to do that isn't covered in that guide? Maybe someone can help you figure out how to do it Smilie
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Thanks for your quick response! If the info there is accurate, that's great... just seems like the author had some later edits he/she put in purple which were never addressed and lead to some confusion, like:

"(Update 3/4/15: Despite earlier beliefs to the contrary, a search is not a search when it comes to the DA system. I have no idea if this has always been the case or is due to recent changes but there are some minor yet significant differences between the results you get from the DA system versus what you would get for the same keyword string when simply searching the site. Further exacerbating this confusion is the fact that when previewing matches in the DA page, you may get different results depending on if you click the link to get the current matches while the alert is in edit mode or after it has been saved. I am attempting to identify as many of these variations as possible and will try to highlight them in the FAQ where appropriate.)"

Re wildcards:

"The wildcard does not appear to work inside of excluded keywords or phrases when used in a Deal Alert. EDIT - Current testing suggests that wildcards may not work in deal alerts at all. I'll update when/if I can confirm one way or the other."

That's kind of why I thought there might be another guide/resource out there that would be comprehensive (and honestly, I think SlickDeals should take it upon itself to create one). I mean, why go to the bother of doing this if I'm going to miss out on something because our ancestors decides to make a plural in a non-standard (yet typically English language) way? And yet otherwise to have so many alerts that you're just overburdened and don't even bother to check them anymore... Argh.

But yeah, if that is the most current info to date, that's helpful to know, and I can clean up some of my notifications and cancel those I can't.

Thank you for the help!

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Thanks for your quick response! If the info there is accurate, that's great... just seems like the author had some later edits he/she put in purple which were never addressed and lead to some confusion, like:

"(Update 3/4/15: Despite earlier beliefs to the contrary, a search is not a search when it comes to the DA system. I have no idea if this has always been the case or is due to recent changes but there are some minor yet significant differences between the results you get from the DA system versus what you would get for the same keyword string when simply searching the site. Further exacerbating this confusion is the fact that when previewing matches in the DA page, you may get different results depending on if you click the link to get the current matches while the alert is in edit mode or after it has been saved. I am attempting to identify as many of these variations as possible and will try to highlight them in the FAQ where appropriate.)"

Re wildcards:

"The wildcard does not appear to work inside of excluded keywords or phrases when used in a Deal Alert. EDIT - Current testing suggests that wildcards may not work in deal alerts at all. I'll update when/if I can confirm one way or the other."

That's kind of why I thought there might be another guide/resource out there that would be comprehensive (and honestly, I think SlickDeals should take it upon itself to create one). I mean, why go to the bother of doing this if I'm going to miss out on something because our ancestors decides to make a plural in a non-standard (yet typically English language) way? And yet otherwise to have so many alerts that you're just overburdened and don't even bother to check them anymore... Argh.

But yeah, if that is the most current info to date, that's helpful to know, and I can clean up some of my notifications and cancel those I can't.

Thank you for the help!
Hi onenil.

I totally agree. That slacker really needs to update that post already. Whistling

First the disclaimer: I'm still nothing remotely close to being a dev and at least 99% of my knowledge of putting together a keyword string for a Deal Alert comes from my own personal experience/testing.

In all seriousness, the 'Unofficial FAQ' is still fairly accurate. Sorry but I don't believe there's a better completely comprehensive guide like what you're looking for yet.

Deal Alerts work like the site search with one major departure. Deal Alerts are exact while Site Search is a bit more 'fuzzy'. My favorite example still holds true as far as I know. If you search the site for "battery" you're also going to get results for deal posts that only use the word "batteries". This isn't the case for Deal Alerts. There, you would need to 'OR' the plural by using a string like battery|batteries. An extension of this difference is that the wildcard character does not work at all in Deal Alerts.

If you have any questions about the best way to set up a Deal Alert for a certain purpose, feel free to ask and we'll do what we can to get you the best answer. Smilie
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Hi onenil.

I totally agree. That slacker really needs to update that post already. Whistling

First the disclaimer: I'm still nothing remotely close to being a dev and at least 99% of my knowledge of putting together a keyword string for a Deal Alert comes from my own personal experience/testing.

In all seriousness, the 'Unofficial FAQ' is still fairly accurate. Sorry but I don't believe there's a better completely comprehensive guide like what you're looking for yet.

Deal Alerts work like the site search with one major departure. Deal Alerts are exact while Site Search is a bit more 'fuzzy'. My favorite example still holds true as far as I know. If you search the site for "battery" you're also going to get results for deal posts that only use the word "batteries". This isn't the case for Deal Alerts. There, you would need to 'OR' the plural by using a string like battery|batteries. An extension of this difference is that the wildcard character does not work at all in Deal Alerts.

If you have any questions about the best way to set up a Deal Alert for a certain purpose, feel free to ask and we'll do what we can to get you the best answer. Smilie
lol sorree 🙄, didn't mean it like that! it's great, was just like 3 years old with a few caveats and loose threads, so I didn't know if it was the most current. And you've clarified those here.

Thanks for your hard work on the original post, really!
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lol sorree 🙄, didn't mean it like that! it's great, was just like 3 years old with a few caveats and loose threads, so I didn't know if it was the most current. And you've clarified those here.

Thanks for your hard work on the original post, really!
No apologies necessary. It was all in good humor and that post really could use a thorough clean-up / update when I can find some time one day. Glad we could help. Thumbup
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lol sorree , didn't mean it like that! it's great, was just like 3 years old with a few caveats and loose threads, so I didn't know if it was the most current. And you've clarified those here.

Thanks for your hard work on the original post, really!
Also if it helps, since the actual Deal Alert FAQ page that was here on SD went poof when they redesigned the DA system a few years ago, here's a link to the old original DA FAQ page via the Wayback Machine
https://web.archive.org/web/20140123035132/https://slickdeals.net/forums/faq.php?faq=sd_faq_item#faq_deal_alerts_faq (you may need to copy/paste that link for it to work properly)

The old FAQ is still correct for the most part.

Regarding what Shorted had mentioned in his FAQ post about the SD search results and the DA system results not being exact same, that is correct. SD search will also include things like category tags in their results, but the DA system won't (unless your alert is a category alert). The DA system still uses more of the old SD search algorithm vs the current SD search algorithm if I recall. (and will, since changing it would require an overhaul of the whole DA system heh).

And also as he mentioned, if you want to set up a specific deal alert and aren't sure how/what to use for it, just ask here and someone will try to help Smilie
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Also if it helps, since the actual Deal Alert FAQ page that was here on SD went poof when they redesigned the DA system a few years ago, here's a link to the old original DA FAQ page via the Wayback Machine
https://web.archive.org/web/20140123035132/https://slickdeals.net/forums/faq.php?faq=sd_faq_item#faq_deal_alerts_faq (you may need to copy/paste that link for it to work properly)

The old FAQ is still correct for the most part.

Regarding what Shorted had mentioned in his FAQ post about the SD search results and the DA system results not being exact same, that is correct. SD search will also include things like category tags in their results, but the DA system won't (unless your alert is a category alert). The DA system still uses more of the old SD search algorithm vs the current SD search algorithm if I recall. (and will, since changing it would require an overhaul of the whole DA system heh).

And also as he mentioned, if you want to set up a specific deal alert and aren't sure how/what to use for it, just ask here and someone will try to help Smilie
thanks! downloaded it as a pdf (wouldn't work w/ Print Friendly) for reference in the future.
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Thanks for asking this question and linking to many of the websites that I was searching for. Responding here so that I can go back and reference later on.

~ Im2bz2p Smilie
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