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At that point it's about trade offs. Personally, as a learning tool, I'd say the Ender 3 is spot on, just make sure you get a reputable one (source from creality directly or one of the third party ones with a good history on Amazon). "Fully Assembled" seriously exaggerates what's involved, and honestly it's a good learning tool for the very basic mechanics if you're not already familiar with Cartesian 3d printers.

3d printers break down and wear out. It's good to have at least a rough idea of how your printer goes together and what the parts are, and touching the major assemblies and slotting then together can be a real confidence booster. If anything, the fully pre-assembled hot end on the Ender makes me a little sad, because that's the first place I'd want someone to know how to disassemble and reassemble it, as that's the most likely area where maintenance is going to first be needed at some point, even if it's just clearing a clog/etc.

Luckily, though, there's plenty on YouTube for novices to follow.

Plus the Ender3 has nearly quadruple the print area of the FlashForge Finder, which is more comparable in print area (yet nearly double the price) to a Monoprice Mini.

An Ender3 also works well as a project that can grow with you, with a ton of information available in the community for mods. If the interest is literally only in printing small things, and only learning about related software, then the FlashForge is probably fine. If the interest is in actually having some learning opportunities about a mechanical system driven by a microcontroller, with room to replace or mod nearly every aspect within that framework and thereby really understand how it works and have the chance to try ideas, then definitely the Ender3, it's deeply moddable.

For wifi printing with an Ender you can even grab another good learning platform/opportunity and run it with octoprint via a Raspberry Pi, or better yet to save a bit, a Pi Zero W (a full Pi is still better/easier as a learning platform itself, probably, but eventually you'd want a dedicated machine for the printer, at which case the Zero W makes the most sense). Even just using one device to run another and loading related software and showing how they communicate is a good concept builder.

I'm not trying to knock FlashForge Finder, but it seems like more of a super on rails toy for dabbling in 3d printing before either letting it collect dust or upgrading to something more serious, rather than something I'd jump to as a broader learning and teaching tool, personally. As an adult who just wanted something that "simply works" to try things some small things out before maybe taking the plunge more seriously, I can see the appeal factor there, or for wanting something to just give a kid and not be involved in it afterwards, but for actually teaching kids or for something with room to grow and a vision of actual ongoing use cases (particularly anything with an already figured out local/small business use case with anything like steady use) I'd lean more towards something like the Ender3.
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ender 3 would be another great option. Either one is going to involve a fair amount of trial and error, playing with settings, and a learning curve. Pretty much any consumer 3D printer out there now will involve these things.

On the plus side, once you learn enough to become good at it, you actually are able to modify and upgrade the printer yourself as well. So each printer (monoprice, creality etc.) has its pros and cons but pretty much any of them can made to work as well as you have the patience for. it can be a very rewarding hobby and a good educational experience for the kids if they stick at it, as long as you set realistic expectations.
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Decent price on a decent printer, in case any of for the uninitiated are wondering.

200 * 200 * 175 mm build volume is meh. All metal hot-end and direct drive extruder are nice in theory but idk if these are well built or what the reliability is like, gotta Google it.

These machines are always quirky and have hard to nail, exacting tolerances. There's a reason the nice stuff runs 1000+ but you can get great quality from this price point - but it's a significant time investment and learning experience.

Anyway, repped.
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folks, total noobie here as far as 3d printing is concerned, Is this a good printer to get kids started on 3D printing? If yes, any recommendations on what else should I order along with it.
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folks, total noobie here as far as 3d printing is concerned, Is this a good printer to get kids started on 3D printing? If yes, any recommendations on what else should I order along with it.
go with a ender3
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folks, total noobie here as far as 3d printing is concerned, Is this a good printer to get kids started on 3D printing? If yes, any recommendations on what else should I order along with it.
I would recommend the FlashForge Finder currently $299 at Amazon. I got it a year or so ago for $399 and absolutely love the ease of use. Grabbed one of the ones from this post and am returning it as it's much noisier and less intuitive and doesn't even have its own software like FlashForge does (or the ability to send prints via WiFi which is awesome).
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Not bad. $479 brand new.
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folks, total noobie here as far as 3d printing is concerned, Is this a good printer to get kids started on 3D printing? If yes, any recommendations on what else should I order along with it.
ender 3 would be another great option. Either one is going to involve a fair amount of trial and error, playing with settings, and a learning curve. Pretty much any consumer 3D printer out there now will involve these things.

On the plus side, once you learn enough to become good at it, you actually are able to modify and upgrade the printer yourself as well. So each printer (monoprice, creality etc.) has its pros and cons but pretty much any of them can made to work as well as you have the patience for. it can be a very rewarding hobby and a good educational experience for the kids if they stick at it, as long as you set realistic expectations.
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folks, total noobie here as far as 3d printing is concerned, Is this a good printer to get kids started on 3D printing? If yes, any recommendations on what else should I order along with it.
For simplicity sake go with the FlashForge Finder as it's a better starter kit compared to the Ender 3. Keep in mind that the Ender 3 has to be fully assembled as well.
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I've been using one for almost 2 years now, and it's been decent. I don't think you could beat this for the price.
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For simplicity sake go with the FlashForge Finder as it's a better starter kit compared to the Ender 3. Keep in mind that the Ender 3 has to be fully assembled as well.
At that point it's about trade offs. Personally, as a learning tool, I'd say the Ender 3 is spot on, just make sure you get a reputable one (source from creality directly or one of the third party ones with a good history on Amazon). "Fully Assembled" seriously exaggerates what's involved, and honestly it's a good learning tool for the very basic mechanics if you're not already familiar with Cartesian 3d printers.

3d printers break down and wear out. It's good to have at least a rough idea of how your printer goes together and what the parts are, and touching the major assemblies and slotting then together can be a real confidence booster. If anything, the fully pre-assembled hot end on the Ender makes me a little sad, because that's the first place I'd want someone to know how to disassemble and reassemble it, as that's the most likely area where maintenance is going to first be needed at some point, even if it's just clearing a clog/etc.

Luckily, though, there's plenty on YouTube for novices to follow.

Plus the Ender3 has nearly quadruple the print area of the FlashForge Finder, which is more comparable in print area (yet nearly double the price) to a Monoprice Mini.

An Ender3 also works well as a project that can grow with you, with a ton of information available in the community for mods. If the interest is literally only in printing small things, and only learning about related software, then the FlashForge is probably fine. If the interest is in actually having some learning opportunities about a mechanical system driven by a microcontroller, with room to replace or mod nearly every aspect within that framework and thereby really understand how it works and have the chance to try ideas, then definitely the Ender3, it's deeply moddable.

For wifi printing with an Ender you can even grab another good learning platform/opportunity and run it with octoprint via a Raspberry Pi, or better yet to save a bit, a Pi Zero W (a full Pi is still better/easier as a learning platform itself, probably, but eventually you'd want a dedicated machine for the printer, at which case the Zero W makes the most sense). Even just using one device to run another and loading related software and showing how they communicate is a good concept builder.

I'm not trying to knock FlashForge Finder, but it seems like more of a super on rails toy for dabbling in 3d printing before either letting it collect dust or upgrading to something more serious, rather than something I'd jump to as a broader learning and teaching tool, personally. As an adult who just wanted something that "simply works" to try things some small things out before maybe taking the plunge more seriously, I can see the appeal factor there, or for wanting something to just give a kid and not be involved in it afterwards, but for actually teaching kids or for something with room to grow and a vision of actual ongoing use cases (particularly anything with an already figured out local/small business use case with anything like steady use) I'd lean more towards something like the Ender3.
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I have this printer. Works great. very reliable. Thinking this may be a good second to have
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folks, total noobie here as far as 3d printing is concerned, Is this a good printer to get kids started on 3D printing? If yes, any recommendations on what else should I order along with it.
i bought my teen the cheapest monoprice printer and we were printing items within an hour of unboxing. Main thing was to make sure the printing table was just beneath the print head, not too high and not too low.

https://www.amazon.com/Monoprice-...8156&psc=1

If the printer we bought is any indication, i would think the OP version should be similar or better.
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What do you guys print? I totally blank out how to apply any of these printers for anything life related..
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Has it ever been this price before? I've wanted to get this printer eventually, but I don't really have space for it right now. I think this is the cheapest it's ever been though.
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