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Hey guys, a few months ago, I bought this computer to replace my old HTPC:
https://www.dell.com/en-us/shop/d...wGMSFC315s

It comes with a single stick of RAM: 8GB, DDR4, 2666MHz. The memory stick itself reads:
SK hynix 8GB 1Rx8 PC4 2666V UA2 11

It has 2 slots and I thought about buying a 2x8 GB kit and give my friend who bought the same computer my single 8 GB stick.

My question is should I stay with 2666 or can/should I go to 3000 MHz? I was thinking of getting the cheapest budget series kit to get to 16 GB, since it's not a gaming computer. This is just to use as an HTPC., One limitation the desktop has is due to the layout, only small memory sticks will fit in there, nothing with fancy fins. So, I'm thinking of this:
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Pr...6820818016

What do you think? TIA!

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Good news -- there is zero reason to throw out perfectly good RAM to go from DDR4-2666 to DDR4-3000. None. If you had an AMD system and were gaming then... maybe... but for an HTPC I wouldn't waste a single dollar on it.

I would actually question if you even need to go to 16 for this use. I know it's not that expensive, but what kind of software are you running? You might get more benefit spending that $85 on content to watch with your HTPC, or a larger HDD/SSD. Actually, now that I think about it, if your system is running the stock 1TB HDD that comes with that system I'd definitely recommend an SSD over the add'l RAM.
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Good news -- there is zero reason to throw out perfectly good RAM to go from DDR4-2666 to DDR4-3000. None. If you had an AMD system and were gaming then... maybe... but for an HTPC I wouldn't waste a single dollar on it.

I would actually question if you even need to go to 16 for this use. I know it's not that expensive, but what kind of software are you running? You might get more benefit spending that $85 on content to watch with your HTPC, or a larger HDD/SSD. Actually, now that I think about it, if your system is running the stock 1TB HDD that comes with that system I'd definitely recommend an SSD over the add'l RAM.
I agree, I would be interested in what OP is experiencing to make them thing it needs more ram.
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Do you need more memory for htcp
https://mediaexperience.com/first-htpc-tips/
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I would look at getting a SSD unless you were having issues.

Try this to check your memory usage

https://www.techrepublic.com/arti...ory-usage/
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Good news -- there is zero reason to throw out perfectly good RAM to go from DDR4-2666 to DDR4-3000. None. If you had an AMD system and were gaming then... maybe... but for an HTPC I wouldn't waste a single dollar on it.

I would actually question if you even need to go to 16 for this use. I know it's not that expensive, but what kind of software are you running? You might get more benefit spending that $85 on content to watch with your HTPC, or a larger HDD/SSD. Actually, now that I think about it, if your system is running the stock 1TB HDD that comes with that system I'd definitely recommend an SSD over the add'l RAM.
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I agree, I would be interested in what OP is experiencing to make them thing it needs more ram.
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Do you need more memory for htcp
https://mediaexperience.com/first-htpc-tips/
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I would look at getting a SSD unless you were having issues.

Try this to check your memory usage

https://www.techrepublic.com/arti...ory-usage/ [techrepublic.com]
Hey everyone, thanks for the replies. I'll fill in some of the details that you asked. I technically bought 2 computers from Dell during the holidays. I sold one to a friend and told him that in early 2019 I'll buy 2x8 GB of RAM for myself and give him my stick so that we'd both have 16 GB of RAM and be future proofed.

Re: SSD, that was one of the 1st things I did for my computer was to clone the 1 TB HDD that it came with to a 1 TB SSD that I had. So I'm all set with that. That Dell has an integrated video card that uses (up to?) 4 GB of RAM, so I figure by having 16 GB at the computer's disposal, I'll have plenty of RAM for whatever I want to do with it. Right now, it records TV shows and I watch videos on it (Amazon, YouTube, Sling, etc.). I may do additional stuff with it, but not game. (I have a dedicated gaming computer elsewhere in my home.)

Hence why I'm looking for what 2x8 GB of RAM memory kit to get. Since the computer comes with 2666, should I stay with that, drop down to 2400 or move up to 3000? In other words, how much of a difference does the memory speed make (vs. just getting more RAM)? I hope that clarifies - thanks.
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Hence why I'm looking for what 2x8 GB of RAM memory kit to get. Since the computer comes with 2666, should I stay with that, drop down to 2400 or move up to 3000? In other words, how much of a difference does the memory speed make (vs. just getting more RAM)? I hope that clarifies - thanks.
Check out these benchmarks for an idea: https://www.anandtech.com/show/89...-crucial/4

I will stand by my original post; If you want 16GB of RAM for this PC, get it however you can, and don't look at the speed rating.
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Check out these benchmarks for an idea: https://www.anandtech.com/show/89...-crucial/4 [anandtech.com]

I will stand by my original post; If you want 16GB of RAM for this PC, get it however you can, and don't look at the speed rating.
Thanks, looks like getting a cheap kit should suffice.
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Hey folks, I'm just kicking this back up because I want to make sure that this RAM is compatible with my computer. As a reminder, I have this Dell Inspiron Small Desktop:
https://www.dell.com/en-us/shop/d...gmbscs315s

I noticed that this CL 16 DDR4 3000 RAM kit, which is faster than the CL 19 DD4 2666 RAM my computer came with, is on sale for $80:
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Pr...6820232417

I had mentioned that only basic RAM would fit in the slot since there's very little height clearance for those fancy RAM with a large heat sink. This RAM looks to be the "standard size" - please let me know if not. I will give my original RAM to a friend, who has the same computer as me. Thanks again.
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I completely understand wanting to "future proof" yourself. However, along the lines of what others have already said... "why"? If you're maxing (or even using 80-90%+) of your RAM on a consistent basis now, then by all means get the extra RAM. However, if you're not close to these numbers, I'd just hold off until you get to the point you actually need it. If you're only using 50% of your 8GB, throwing another 8GB in there will make no real world difference. And it's not as though they'll just stop selling DDR4 anytime soon. If anything, it'll prob go down quite a bit in price by the time you need it in a few years. If you were to buy it now, you're just spending extra money on something you probably don't even need.
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I completely understand wanting to "future proof" yourself. However, along the lines of what others have already said... "why"? If you're maxing (or even using 80-90%+) of your RAM on a consistent basis now, then by all means get the extra RAM. However, if you're not close to these numbers, I'd just hold off until you get to the point you actually need it. If you're only using 50% of your 8GB, throwing another 8GB in there will make no real world difference. And it's not as though they'll just stop selling DDR4 anytime soon. If anything, it'll prob go down quite a bit in price by the time you need it in a few years. If you were to buy it now, you're just spending extra money on something you probably don't even need.
Thanks for your input. I'll wait until April and then get it then. When I bought this PC (and my friend did his) last Nov., I made a deal with him that I'd give him my stick of RAM and buy my own kit so that we'd each have 16 GB and be set for life for our respective small desktops.
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Thanks for your input. I'll wait until April and then get it then. When I bought this PC (and my friend did his) last Nov., I made a deal with him that I'd give him my stick of RAM and buy my own kit so that we'd each have 16 GB and be set for life for our respective small desktops.
I understand completely, and appreciate that you're a person that makes it a priority to keep your word to your friend. I just see people all the time fall into the marketing hype (or just following the crowd) for stuff, even though they often don't particularly need it. Similar to how everyone in tool threads claims you HAVE to have brushless (as though all of our power tools for the past 40 years have been crap this whole time, but we just didn't realize it), how people in the computer threads act like a 720p resolution screen is so blurry you can't even read it, or saying a product is junk because it only has 4GB of RAM (which is still fine for most users), etc.

If it gives you some piece of mind, then go for it. Financially speaking though, you're probably just burning your money. RAM has been insanely high priced the past few years, as are video cards. Like how SSDs and HDD's were crazy priced for a while after some of the factories overseas flooded. But SSD's are dirt cheap now. I don't think the trend (for RAM) can continue much longer... BUT if people keep buying it at these inflated prices, manufacturer's would be fools to charge less. It won't be until people say enough is enough with their dollars by keeping them in their wallet, and manufacturer's start taking a hit in the quarterly reports, that they'll consider dropping the price. There are really only 3 manufacturer's of DRAM that blanket nearly 100% of the market. And at least 2 of them (Samsung and Hynix) have already been outed/fined for price fixing back in the early 2000's. So don't know why people believe the hype that it's smart phones and SSD's eating up all the DRAM supply. Google "DRAM price fixing" if you're interested. There's a lot of chatter that another class action lawsuit might be in the works already. The problem though is that the lawsuit "fines" do not even come close to the profit made from the inflated sales. So there's no reason for them to stop doing it.

"Over the past two years, the price of DRAM has skyrocketed. A recent report by GamersNexus found that the cost of a specific DDR4-2400 memory kit has leaped from $81 on 2/22/2016 to $196 today ($196 on January 22, $192 on January 30)." - Source [extremetech.com]
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What he said, and not just to the OP but in general (sorry to keep picking on OP here). I think there are a lot of computer users who came of age in the 80s and 90s who remember literally not having enough RAM to run basic applications. The idea of future proofing your computer made sense then. Your basic Windows 95 Pentium machine was paging stuff to slow HDDs so every additional 8MB helped. It was repeated often that the single best upgrade was more RAM.

It's just not the same anymore, though, *unless* you are running VMs or extremely high-end applications. 99.9% of computer users on Win 7/8/10 don't know what that means and are fine with 8GB and will not need 16GB before their current laptop literally dies of old age. Buying it as an upgrade will just burn money, much like using premium gas in a car that only requires regular.

Apologies for the RAM rant. The 32GB SODIMM deal on the other page has a lot of this going on, too.
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I appreciate the input, AP and duke. Yeah memory prices did spike quite a bit the past few years. My gaming computer that I bought about 4-5 years ago, I outfitted it with 16 GB of RAM and thought about expanding to 32 GB at some later time, but here it is several years later and I'm still good @ 16. Now I've upgraded other components, namely increasing the SSD and a better video card, but those were out of necessity.

I'll continue monitoring RAM prices. 2x8 kit (16 GB) of "value" DDR4 RAM is going for less than $80. Hopefully it'll be in the $60s in a month. I'll see my friend next weekend and will let him know I'm "close" to ordering more RAM and then will give him mine. I also told him he should instead replace the HDD his computer came with and use SSD, like I am. I said it's very easy to clone and replace. But he didn't seem interested in that for whatever reason.
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Assuming that you don't reach ~80%+ of the RAM on a consistent basis, an SSD would be the about the biggest bang for your buck from a performance standpoint, especially with them being dirt cheap right now. It's definitely the upgrade I would encourage your friend to go for if they still have a spinning/mechanical HDD.
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