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Nikon AF-P DX NIKKOR 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6G VR Zoom Lens $75 + free s/h

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Note which cameras it works on, only since 2013 models
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Likely the best ever kit lens (and the 70-300 DX-P) released by any camera mfg. I have both and they are impressive with sharpness, lightweight, silent and fast focus.
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Note which cameras it works on, only since 2013 models
So on a D40 this will be a step down from the kit lens?
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Probably should put refurbished in the title just for clarity.
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Kit lenses are cheapo and have the lifespan of a piece of chewing gum. Save up and buy a 2.8 or better aperture Nikon anything used on ebay and you'll be much happier. Your lens, like your wife, should out live your body.
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Kit lenses are cheapo and have the lifespan of a piece of chewing gum. Save up and buy a 2.8 or better aperture Nikon anything used on ebay and you'll be much happier. Your lens, like your wife, should out live your body.
LOL..nonsense. As a fyi, all prime lenses are made of plastic as is this kit. On either my D3400 or D7200 and using this 18-55mm kit DX-P lens and compared to my 35mm f/1.8 prime, they are both close in sharpness, but the faster prime does a bit better in low light.

https://kenrockwell.com/nikon/18-55mm-af-p.htm

Granted some people bash Rockwell, but he backs up his claims with full resolution photos and that's something many reviewers do not do. View and judge for yourself.

Just for kicks, this image below was shot with my D3300 with the kit Nikon 70-300 DX-P lens and handheld and non VR. Image shot at full 300mm reach.
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LOL..nonsense. As a fyi, all prime lenses are made of plastic as is this kit. On either my D3400 or D7200 and using this 18-55mm kit DX-P lens and compared to my 35mm f/1.8 prime, they are both close in sharpness, but the faster prime does a bit better in low light.

https://kenrockwell.com/nikon/18-55mm-af-p.htm

Granted some people bash Rockwell, but he backs up his claims with full resolution photos and that's something many reviewers do not do. View and judge for yourself.

Just for kicks, this image below was shot with my D3300 with the kit Nikon 70-300 DX-P lens and handheld and non VR. Image shot at full 300mm reach.
You should better respect what he's trying to tell you. The camera cartel is famous for leaving out what you need; so you can buy another part. Hiding behind the fact that one thing can't do all; but they don't even try. The real issue in lack of open standards. The idea of fun with other manufacture lens is fraught with problems.If it doesn't match then you lose abilities.

Specifically there is nothing wrong with this lens and at a lower price; so get it. It has the quieter AF-P for less bad video AF; but pros focus video manually anyway. And it's small and has good optics (etc). It is just not fast.

What most people seem to miss is it works great in bright light; but bright light isn't always possible and that means you miss shoots due to blur you can't fix without a wider aperture.

So now you could mount the 35mm f/1.8; but you only have normal focal length.Limited by where you can move and it's closest focusing distance(which is relatively decent BTW). But not macro and not telephoto, or good for single person shots.

The f/2.8 zoom gives more focal and a bit better wider aperture for faster motion stopping shots.

You have to make due and use tricks; but see you don't want the important stuff limited, you don't want to carry bigger stuff and you don't want to spend a fortune just for a good system.

It's about total balance and many other aspects COMBINED. Else it's worse looking or missed completely. And the camera market does not yet offer good balanced. We're working with lesser evils. Plus; I am only talking about what has been proved can combine and future state of the art. Not what can't; to date.
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Don't see a point to use kit lense on DSLR.
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Don't see a point to use kit lense on DSLR.
I agree; but it's good for size, and toward wide and close and includes quieter video AF on the cheap. But you should understand it's many limits.

Really the only way to keep buying under control is get a faster zoom in the range you usually use, leave that on and deal with the lower quality at some focal lengths and the less speed *or* get two or three primes and get good at changing them or guessing which one you need and dealing with the cons when you're wrong.All this to greatly beat cell phone, especially on price; BUT things are changing fast..The party line is cell cams can never compete due to certain realities. However; they have worked *around* many of them and those phones may become affordable very soon. And while regular camera makers could respond with the potentially better technology; they won't. It's just not what they do.

And no; I an not one to claim cell phones are better; YET.

Summary: Currently get an old D3300, sell the kit lens and get the 35mm prime and the 85mm prime, both f/1.8 and use your feet. If you want close macro then later a fast wider prime that does not need zoom or even AF *and* then something for tele if 85mm x1.5 (DX) is not enough. It sucks but this is how you do it the cheapest without compromising really good quality.

Of course; it's the photographer that matters most and I'm and talking about preferred tools for the good (lighting, composition, emotion) photographer.. Don't spend to much or you will never get it back

Note with D3300 and primes just start with Portrait mode and not "P"rogram mode when using flash(and wanting Bokeh. And try this before warmer sunset; best on blonds) . Which means some custom AWB tweaks (your style like film looks) would have to be applied after taking the picture(Raw edit in cam); but can then be edited in cam. Basically a Portra 400 look is greener. That said; portrait mode default is fine. It's just; if "P" mode worked right with fast lenses and flash then you could pre-edit and be professionally done with no editing. But you can do this accepting Portrait mode defaults.
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