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Good price and I have a $28 coupon from a previous issue with an order that I can take advantage of. Going to hook this up to the Xbox One X and put my most played games on it, the difference in load times is substantial.
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Half price in office depot clearance (YMMV)
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Anyone have info on the SSD inside—can it be removed aka "shuck-able"?
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I'd only shuck so I could have a cheap gen 2 enclosure.
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Anyone have info on the SSD inside—can it be removed aka "shuck-able"?
It should be a M.2 SATA SSD based on the dimensions. Looking at the CrystalDiskInfo (CDI) screenshots from some reviews, the firmware indicates a drive using the Marvell 88SS1074 controller - this has DRAM and is used in other products like the WD Blue 3D/SanDisk Ultra 3D, Crucial MX300/Micron 1100, etc. Given it's a WD/SanDisk product but has been out longer than the 3D drives, it likely uses 2D/planar TLC, so would be equivalent to the WD Blue 2D model (or SanDisk X400). Seems to just be a M.2 (SATA) to USB3.1 ASMedia board [tweaktown.com] internally with such a drive.
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It should be a M.2 SATA SSD based on the dimensions. Looking at the CrystalDiskInfo (CDI) screenshots from some reviews, the firmware indicates a drive using the Marvell 88SS1074 controller - this has DRAM and is used in other products like the WD Blue 3D/SanDisk Ultra 3D, Crucial MX300/Micron 1100, etc. Given it's a WD/SanDisk product but has been out longer than the 3D drives, it likely uses 2D/planar TLC, so would be equivalent to the WD Blue 2D model (or SanDisk X400). Seems to just be a M.2 (SATA) to USB3.1 ASMedia board [tweaktown.com] internally with such a drive.
so Good deal or no?

should I expect 200MB+/sec speed?
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Thanks. Got one with GE discount for offline backup of important documents, pictures, etc.
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so Good deal or no?

should I expect 200MB+/sec speed?
Sequential performance will be fine. External drives (over USB/UASP) will take a hit to 4K performance, specifically writes and mixed, although a drive with DRAM - like this one - can mitigate this to some degree. The NAND is 2D/planar TLC so it's older technology. In general this is perfectly suitable for general storage use or for games and would be fine in a portable backup role - this is not something you would be using for OS or heavier workloads.

As for value (pricing - "good deal"), an enclosure of this type is usually in the $20 range which would put the drive at $44 (Google Express) or $60 (upfront cost). You can get a better M.2 SATA drive for the latter price, for example a 500GB MX500, so I'd call this a fair deal for someone who doesn't want to mess with that and potentially a good deal with the GE code.
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Cool. So $20 enclosures have same or better controller than this one. ?

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ElecGear M.2 to USB 3.1 Gen2 Enclosure, M2 NGFF Adapter Case, External M.2 SSD Reader, SATA Based B Key Hard Disk Drive Extension Converter Caddy, 2230 2242 2260 2280, built-in USB C cable, Tool-free https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07CXL9...VCbQHK55EB
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Cool. So $20 enclosures have same or better controller than this one. ?

like this one
ElecGear M.2 to USB 3.1 Gen2 Enclosure, M2 NGFF Adapter Case, External M.2 SSD Reader, SATA Based B Key Hard Disk Drive Extension Converter Caddy, 2230 2242 2260 2280, built-in USB C cable, Tool-free https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07CXL9...VCbQHK55EB [amazon.com]
There are a ton of enclosures for it, just have to make sure it's SATA and not PCIe/NVMe. M.2 and NGFF are two names for the same thing, referring only to the form factor. SATA is speed-limited (6 Gbps) while USB3.0/3.1 (plus generation) will either be 5 Gbps or 10 Gbps - the former will limit sequentials to some degree. You are correct in that there are different chips (controller) for enclosures, as I said this one (WD) uses an ASMedia ASM1351 which is fairly common in enclosures. Another common one is made by JMicron (which I believe is 5 Gbps).
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There are a ton of enclosures for it, just have to make sure it's SATA and not PCIe/NVMe. M.2 and NGFF are two names for the same thing, referring only to the form factor. SATA is speed-limited (6 Gbps) while USB3.0/3.1 (plus generation) will either be 5 Gbps or 10 Gbps - the former will limit sequentials to some degree. You are correct in that there are different chips (controller) for enclosures, as I said this one (WD) uses an ASMedia ASM1351 which is fairly common in enclosures. Another common one is made by JMicron (which I believe is 5 Gbps).
They are really milking this usb stuff. Should be releasing nvme TB3 portable storage. Same SSD but lets put it on an outdated SATA bus.
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Half price in office depot clearance (YMMV)
Where are you seeing this? I know the deal in Office Depot Clearance was on sale months back for this SSD at $60 but its been dead for a while I thought.
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Sequential performance will be fine. External drives (over USB/UASP) will take a hit to 4K performance, specifically writes and mixed, although a drive with DRAM - like this one - can mitigate this to some degree. The NAND is 2D/planar TLC so it's older technology. In general this is perfectly suitable for general storage use or for games and would be fine in a portable backup role - this is not something you would be using for OS or heavier workloads.

As for value (pricing - "good deal"), an enclosure of this type is usually in the $20 range which would put the drive at $44 (Google Express) or $60 (upfront cost). You can get a better M.2 SATA drive for the latter price, for example a 500GB MX500, so I'd call this a fair deal for someone who doesn't want to mess with that and potentially a good deal with the GE code.
Is there really much to mess with and putting an SSD in a case? Never done it but I just thought it snaps right in and you plug it in. But life is rarely that simple huh?
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