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I felt this way about 560v2 versus HE400S and 400i.
To me, 560 is the multi-million-dollar pro studio producing music while the 400 headphones are the amateur bedroom studios, though 400S did have an edge in one small aspect, subbass, but that's all.


Also, V-curve sound is quite advantageous for low-volume listening if done right.
The times I've impressed people when demonstrating/tweaking speakers are when I've equalized them into having a much more balanced frequency response (as close to flat as I can get) so that every element in a mix can be better appreciated, often causing people to rediscover the music they listen to.

And I think the non-ANC Bose sets are overpriced for the quality they present in both build and sound. =p
I was going to use the sell of my he400i to supplement the purchase of the 560, but decided that they both are good for different types of music/movies. Both amped with a topping D30 with Atom amp.
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Researching headphones is the most perplexing thing I've ever set out to do. At best you'll get technical details like sound stage which can be subjectively measured, but most "reviews" use terms that to the average person mean absolutely nothing at all. Even phrases like "bright" and "neutral" mean absolutely nothing without a good reference point, something most people don't have.
Honestly I think headphones are completely subjective, and can even vary depending on your mood or stage in your life and even your amp. I got a used He400i off craigslist for $150 two years back, took it home, was ready to hear this amazing pair everyone on the internet yacked about, and was completely disappointed. Already had pairs from Sennheiser and Beyerdynamic and the like so I'm no "$10 apple earbuds is good enough for me" kind of normie. Went back in the box for a few months. Then one day decided to try them again and for some reason I was suddenly in love with them and they are my go-to pair now and the old Beyers I used to listen to alot I can't even stomach them much anymore, go figure.

It's also one reason why I think the concept of "burning in" headphones is snake oil, it's not the headphones that are changing IMO but your own mental sound signature tastes. The most hilarious thing I ever read was someone on reddit who bought a used pair of phones talking about taking them home and burning them in, WTF, if it's used it should be burned-in already by that logic.
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wouldn't it be smarter to buy decent headphones for 100-150, and just be happy?
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wouldn't it be smarter to buy decent headphones for 100-150, and just be happy?
If you ever heard a $300-$500 headphone, you'll be way happier and wonder what you've been missing all this time just like a $2000 gaming computer is going to make you way happier than a $500 one.

The smart thing is not to go into debt to be happy but if you DO have the disposable income, sometimes it's worth splurging on the hobbies you really love.
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I felt this way about 560v2 versus HE400S and 400i.
To me, 560 is the multi-million-dollar pro studio producing music while the 400 headphones are the amateur bedroom studios, though 400S did have an edge in one small aspect, subbass, but that's all.
Not sure what 560v2 has over 560v1 (what I have), but now that I've received the HE5se, I can state the difference over 560v1 for those people who suspect it's a rebadged 560 (it's not):

- I can immediately tell that the HE5se has better transients. It's "faster" and a bit more resolving between instruments.
- The treble is higher. I dare say it's comparable to Beyerdynamics in this respect, and like Beyerdynamics, it sounds like "pins and needles" at times depending on the type of music you listen to.
- The bass is less "boomy." Not that the 560 was ever boomy, but the SE makes it even less so. Since it's less boomy, I get the impression that it's a tad lighter, but this might be my imagination.
- The midrange is noticeably more forward, which results in less soundstage "depth", but same width. (it sounds as if you moved closer to the stage).
- Because of the increased treble, vocals have an underlying "edge" to them, making them sound more "real" or "present", in the same space as you are instead of farther in the background.

The overall effect is that I feel the HE5se is more transparent than the 560, but if what you like about the 560 is the "silky" sound with deep sounstage, the HE5se has less of it. The treble can be harsh whereas the 560 is always smooth and never sounds like pins and needles. So, is it better than the 560? In some aspects, yes, in other aspects, it's a step backward. IMO, the improvements is greater than the setbacks, so I'm keeping it. For reference, my favorite headphone is the ATH-AD2000X.
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Not sure what 560v2 has over 560v1 (what I have), but now that I've received the HE5se, I can state the difference over 560v1 for those people who suspect it's a rebadged 560 (it's not):

- I can immediately tell that the HE5se has better transients. It's "faster" and a bit more resolving between instruments.
- The treble is higher. I dare say it's comparable to Beyerdynamics in this respect, and like Beyerdynamics, it sounds like "pins and needles" at times depending on the type of music you listen to.
- The bass is less "boomy." Not that the 560 was ever boomy, but the SE makes it even less so. Since it's less boomy, I get the impression that it's a tad lighter, but this might be my imagination.
- The midrange is noticeably more forward, which results in less soundstage "depth", but same width. (it sounds as if you moved closer to the stage).
- Because of the increased treble, vocals have an underlying "edge" to them, making them sound more "real" or "present", in the same space as you are instead of farther in the background.

The overall effect is that I feel the HE5se is more transparent than the 560, but if what you like about the 560 is the "silky" sound with deep sounstage, the HE5se has less of it. The treble can be harsh whereas the 560 is always smooth and never sounds like pins and needles. So, is it better than the 560? In some aspects, yes, in other aspects, it's a step backward. IMO, the improvements is greater than the setbacks, so I'm keeping it. For reference, my favorite headphone is the ATH-AD2000X.
What would you say is a better deal these for $350 or the 560's on Amazon for $400?
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What would you say is a better deal these for $350 or the 560's on Amazon for $400?
Never buy HiFiMan headphones from a retailer that you can't easily return or claim warranty because the construction quality is poor. When I got my 400i, the audio on the left earcup cuts in and out and I had to exchange it. When I got my 560, the headband literally snapped in half and I had to show my receipt from Adorama to get warranty service.

If you use headphones for hours on end with music in the background, I'd say the 560 is better because it's less fatiguing and whatever advantage the 5se has is only appreciable if you're actively listening ("zoned" into the music). This is if the price is the same. Since your quoted price is cheaper with 5se, I would get the 5se over the 560.

I don't know what smooth treble means to you. If you put a high value on smooth treble and deeper soundstage, then definitely get the 560 over the 5se, otherwise the 5se wins.
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Never buy HiFiMan headphones from a retailer that you can't easily return or claim warranty because the construction quality is poor. When I got my 400i, the audio on the left earcup cuts in and out and I had to exchange it. When I got my 560, the headband literally snapped in half and I had to show my receipt from Adorama to get warranty service.

If you use headphones for hours on end with music in the background, I'd say the 560 is better because it's less fatiguing and whatever advantage the 5se has is only appreciable if you're actively listening ("zoned" into the music). This is if the price is the same. Since your quoted price is cheaper with 5se, I would get the 5se over the 560.

I don't know what smooth treble means to you. If you put a high value on smooth treble and deeper soundstage, then definitely get the 560 over the 5se, otherwise the 5se wins.
Would you say the HE5se is more colored? I am a little worried about the HE5se and the peaky treble. I sort of impulse bought them as I was worried the sale would end before I could do research. Then I found the 560's on amazon for $400 (and found out they go on sale for cheaper) and now am wondering if I should just wait for those.

Lastly, how would you compare the base between the two?

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Would you say the HE5se is more colored? I am a little worried about the HE5se and the peaky treble. I sort of impulse bought them as I was worried the sale would end before I could do research. Then I found the 560's on amazon for $400 (and found out they go on sale for cheaper) and now am wondering if I should just wait for those.

Lastly, how would you compare the base between the two?
I would say the HE5se has a more natural timbre. Between the two, the 560 is more colored. My pick for most transparent timbre is Beyerdynamics, so if timbre is what you're after, then that's probably a better brand for you (e.g. DT-880). For me the most important factor is vocal/midrange quality and soundstage (the latter is why I don't like Grados or Audeze).

For bass, I haven't gone into listening for detailed comparison, but I tend to trust my first impression, which is they're basically identical. I didn't "miss" anything or notice anything "extra" in the bass area.
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Receive my pair today and am listening to them now. I've never heard planars before and have only ever owned one open back headphone before (ATH-AD900).

These are very different sounding to anything I'm used too. I have a Peachtree Decco2 that serves as my headphone amp. I have a Topping D50 DAC that feeds the Decco from my PC.

The 5se's are a mixed bag at the moment. Hi-rez PCM tracks and DSF tracks sound mostly amazing except for having a shy bottom end. I guess I must be a mild basshead..not crazy, shake stuff, but I do like impact. The 5Se's are definitely lighter down low than I'm used to. Its probably the open back...i do vaguely remember my Ad900's being a bit shy on bass as well. I've tried EQ'g in foobar, but I don't think that will end up cutting it.

There's occasional shrillness (fatiguing at times) but mids and highs are crystal clear and subtle instruments/effects are easier to separate. I'm hearing things on some tracks I haven't noticed before.

So really, I don't know about these. If I was only to have one pair of headphones, I'm not sure these would be them. On the flip side, some acoustical tracks I listened to actually gave me goosebumps they sounded so good.


I listen to pop, light rock, folk, classic rock, modern alternative, and EDM. I prefer this sound on maybe only 20% of my music collection so far. That's a fairly expensive pill to swallow.


I'll give them some more time, but I probably will be returning them.
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Large pressing headphones can really suck when you need a molar root extraction. I have experience this a few times.
Have you modded your HD58x yet?
Yes, I took out the foam. Open up the soundstage a little.
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Honestly I think headphones are completely subjective, and can even vary depending on your mood or stage in your life and even your amp. I got a used He400i off craigslist for $150 two years back, took it home, was ready to hear this amazing pair everyone on the internet yacked about, and was completely disappointed. Already had pairs from Sennheiser and Beyerdynamic and the like so I'm no "$10 apple earbuds is good enough for me" kind of normie. Went back in the box for a few months. Then one day decided to try them again and for some reason I was suddenly in love with them and they are my go-to pair now and the old Beyers I used to listen to alot I can't even stomach them much anymore, go figure.

It's also one reason why I think the concept of "burning in" headphones is snake oil, it's not the headphones that are changing IMO but your own mental sound signature tastes. The most hilarious thing I ever read was someone on reddit who bought a used pair of phones talking about taking them home and burning them in, WTF, if it's used it should be burned-in already by that logic.
Speaker/headphone burn-in can be recorded with microphones. One's tastes and attitudes are also relevant like you say, though. It's not a bad idea to try it for yourself with a pair of Blue Baby Bottle mics and an Audient ID22 interface.
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Speaker/headphone burn-in can be recorded with microphones. One's tastes and attitudes are also relevant like you say, though. It's not a bad idea to try it for yourself with a pair of Blue Baby Bottle mics and an Audient ID22 interface.
Even if burn-in is real though, you have to admit there is something kooky about thinking you need to or can burn in headphones that were owned and played by someone else for hundreds, even thousands of hours, if that's the case my first pair of headphones I got when I was 14 should sound like Sennheiser Orpheuses by now!
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Anyone know if these things are actually limited? I have a hard time believing that they actually only made 500 of these. They're still in stock in most online stores, even after all these months. They don't have individual SN's as far as I can tell.

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My very brief listening to these I so far enjoy them more than my Sennheiser 650s. A bit tighter bass and just overall more lively
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