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At this price point, I think this is a purchase.
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I see. There is no way to get decent reception at my property. Wish OTA would be broadcasted over internet someday.
If you're okay with a subscription model, YouTube TV does exactly that for $40/per month, which includes a pretty decent DVR system. The biggest problem is it doesn't have an app -- as far as I know -- so the service isn't available on any streaming devices. Only on devices with an internet browser.
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It should be noted that the HD HomeRun system tends to work best on viewing devices that are hard-wired to your network. The signal from the HD HomeRun is bandwidth-heavy and could provide a less-than-desirable experience under many -- but not all -- wi-fi conditions.
I had an earlier version of this model. And even though I had it hardwired via ethernet, I still didnt feel I was getting 100% uncompressed video. I recently bought a Hauppage USB dual tuner. I get a better uncompressed picture. You can use Plex or Emby if you want to put it on a network. And it tunes channels much faster too. It's only $69 at Amazon. Why stream off an antenna when you can watch directly?
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have the Xbox tuner, but its not a full dvr though right? Unless they updated recently..
I don't have XB1 so I'm not positive but I thought that was a feature (use your XB1 as a DVR) that they had implemented or were planning to implement. Maybe they scrapped it. I don't know.
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I use the Android TV Live Channels app with my HDHomerun. It includes a full guide and has a DVR feature too where you can schedule to record.
I have not tried the DVR because I need to plug in an external drive to the Shield TV though. I have used the app to pause and rewind live content. Its the closes Ive found to Windows Media Center.
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It should be noted that the HD HomeRun system tends to work best on viewing devices that are hard-wired to your network. The signal from the HD HomeRun is bandwidth-heavy and could provide a less-than-desirable experience under many -- but not all -- wi-fi conditions.
They sell two models. One that does mpeg compression, one that does not.
The one that does is mean for all types of connections.

I do have the Connect version, which does not have mpeg compression. Mine is connected directly to the router, and I use 5Ghz wifi from TV to router. No issues for my set up. Using 2.4GHz made playback unusable. Direct ethernet was the best, but that required the antenna and all the hardware in the same room as the playback device. I moved all of that to a separate room once I got 5GHz wifi.
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If you're okay with a subscription model, YouTube TV does exactly that for $40/per month, which includes a pretty decent DVR system. The biggest problem is it doesn't have an app -- as far as I know -- so the service isn't available on any streaming devices. Only on devices with an internet browser.
They raised it to $50/month and that's not free which is exactly opposite of cord cutting. I just want to watch cbs for NFL on sunday night. I dont even want DVR function.
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2 months of dvr, paying for dvr service kill the deal for me

btw suscription costs 35 by year
If you are slightly handy with computers, you can easily build your own DVR. This isn't like Windows Media Center where you need a PhD in computers to get it working anymore.

$35/yr is reasonable for the convenience. It is still cheaper than TiVo - buy far. In the USA, TV schedule data is $25/yr from Schedules Direct for 10-14 days of schedule data - unless you violate copyright terms from online services and screen scrap.
The other option is to use keywords and the broadcaster EPG which is included in every signal. Usually, this EPG is 4-6 hrs. If you are interested in prime-time, force it to update at 5:55pm. That update does eat a tuner and takes a few minutes.
There are lots of ways to cut the cord and have a DVR without paying. Kodi can be the DVR. Free addon. Add some storage inside the software. That's it.
Tuner, antenna, some coax, a Raspberry Pi, and connect all these things into your existing WIRED network. The playback devices can be wifi, but the DvR needs to be wired so you can watch multiple streams concurrently. If your players are weak, then your server will need to be able to transcode streams on the fly. My DVR system is a 5 yr old Pentium that cost $126 to build.
I don't own a "Connect" of this generation. I have 2 HDHR3 and 1 HDHR4 tuners. That's a total of 6. The HDHR4 and later work with DLNA and are very easy to hook into your network for access by almost any tablet, phone, computer. The only reason I'm looking at this is because the HDHR3 tuners need funky drivers and have been out of support for a few years already. The HDHR4 works with everything, easily. I expect the same for this, HDHR5.

I have a Plex server, but don't pay for plex, don't have a plex account, and don't use any plex clients (paid). The Plex Server is a great DLNA server. Kodi works as a great client. There are Android DLNA programs that work with both Kodi and Plex, for free.

I'm hoping the HDHR5-4-Quad Tuner drops to $60 before Microsoft ends their free schedule data. I don't need 6 tuners, but 2 isn't quite enough.

Before someone asks - these are TV tuners. Some sort of computing device is necessary to control them and watch the content. They cannot be directly connected to any TV.
Which channels you might receive is only something that your 4 closest neighbors can guess. Use tvfool.com to get a good idea. I live about 25 miles from the broadcast towers here and get over 90 channels OTA thanks to good antennas and a COAX amplifier. One of the stations, which 6 channels is over 50 miles away. I have a directional antenna pointed at it.

One more thing. These are ATSCv1 tuners. ATSCv3 is being tested in a few cities across the USA and none of my current tuners support the new video encoding. I doubt this will either, but I don't know. ATSCv3 is being tested in Phoenix now, so perhaps someone there can let us know? My search of Silicon Dust website only says ATSC. I know that recording from these devices is literally just saving the stream to disk. I've used curl/wget to "record" TV many times on my HDHR4. It records as a mpeg2/ac3 TS stream. Perhaps ATSCv3 recordings will be an AVC1/AAC stream?
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I had an earlier version of this model. And even though I had it hardwired via ethernet, I still didnt feel I was getting 100% uncompressed video. I recently bought a Hauppage USB dual tuner. I get a better uncompressed picture. You can use Plex or Emby if you want to put it on a network. And it tunes channels much faster too. It's only $69 at Amazon. Why stream off an antenna when you can watch directly?
If I correctly understand what you're saying, it sounds to me like the compression issue you saw was because of the tuner you had before you had your newer Hauppage USB tuner, not your streaming conduit (hard-wire vs. wi-fi).

I'm not sure I completely understand your last question, but I'll take a stab at it: The advantages to watching a network stream rather than directly are plentiful. First, you no longer need splitters that degrade the OTA signal. Your antenna can feed your HD HomeRun device directly, then the HD HomeRun feeds multiple devices on your home network (up to two at a time on this particular unit because it has two built-in tuners). Second, you can stream to many types of devices -- not just a TV receiver that has an antenna input. Third, the network stream the HD HomeRun provides to your home network is easily recordable with no signal degradation or proprietary file format. That's the part where the old Windows Media Center system shined best!

Did I correctly understand your questions?
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They raised it to $50/month and that's not free which is exactly opposite of cord cutting. I just want to watch cbs for NFL on sunday night. I dont even want DVR function.
Hmmm...didn't know the subscription price was raised!

Don't get me wrong -- I don't suggest at all that YouTube TV is an inexpensive way to cut the cord. I only pointed out to you that broadcast TV is available over the internet -- but you have to be willing to pay for it!
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Wait, this is a OTA DVR and they still charge for the DVR service? What advantages does this have over the other products that does not require a subscription like my Tablo?

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Every DVR service charges, compiling the TV listings isn't free, I agree thought that the title is misleading.
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Tablo requires a subscription for the guide. There is DVR software you can use with this that's completely free (mythtv/nextpvr) or that charges a one time fee (Plex/emby).
I don't see an advantage over the Tablo. Tablo does NOT require a subscription for a 24 hour guide, which is all you need to set the DVR to tape a series or recurring episodes. You only need to pay Tablo for a 2 week guide, which really isn't needed. When I had the free trial of the 2 week guide, I never really used it. You can always program Tablo to record at any time in the future, or use the free daily guide to easly record a recurring show or series.

Tablo is also wifi for multi-room broadcasting, no need for ethernet connection, but you can hardwire Tablo if you want.

Bottom line, use free daily guide on Tablo to channel surf, etc. Set up recurring shows, series, episodes easily. I don't see the advantage to this SiliconDust box.
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My antennas are in the attic connected via a coax joiner and the far end of a coax amp. 1 coax cord goes to my home office where it gets split into 3 coax wires - 1 for each HDHR dual tuner. The location of the HDHR tuners only has 3 requirements.
* climate controlled - not too hot or too cold
* power plugs for the HDHR and any other device in that room
* wired ethernet. I suppose you could put a tiny switch and power-line ethernet extender. I wouldn't use Wifi.
Any computing device on the LAN can connect to any available tuner. The computer is what drives the screen - monitor - projector - TV. These are best if wired, but they can be wifi if your wifi network performance is consistent. All my systems are wired. I use a Zyxel power-line network to connect different floors together. The power-line network throughput is very stable and consistent, but only 10% of the bandwidth on the box. In the same room, powerline provided about 40% the bandwidth claimed on the box. YMMV.

For those people stuck on Windows for the PVR, NextPVR https://www.nextpvr.com/ was pretty easy to setup and works with HDHR devices. I played with it as an alternative to WMC. When the free schedule data ends, I'll be wiping the last Windows machines as DVR/PVRs. NextPVR has free plugins for Kodi to support remote playback. It was pretty trivial to get that working.
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They sell two models. One that does mpeg compression, one that does not.
The one that does is mean for all types of connections.

I do have the Connect version, which does not have mpeg compression. Mine is connected directly to the router, and I use 5Ghz wifi from TV to router. No issues for my set up. Using 2.4GHz made playback unusable. Direct ethernet was the best, but that required the antenna and all the hardware in the same room as the playback device. I moved all of that to a separate room once I got 5GHz wifi.
I might be wrong -- and please correct me if I am -- but I believe the model in this SD is the non-mpg version. That's why I brought up the possible wi-fi issue. All my non-portable devices are hard-wired, which makes this kind of bandwidth a non-issue for me. That's not the case for everyone who might consider this purchase.
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If I correctly understand what you're saying, it sounds to me like the compression issue you saw was because of the tuner you had before you had your newer Hauppage USB tuner, not your streaming conduit (hard-wire vs. wi-fi).

I'm not sure I completely understand your last question, but I'll take a stab at it: The advantages to watching a network stream rather than directly are plentiful. First, you no longer need splitters that degrade the OTA signal. Your antenna can feed your HD HomeRun device directly, then the HD HomeRun feeds multiple devices on your home network (up to two at a time on this particular unit because it has two built-in tuners). Second, you can stream to many types of devices -- not just a TV receiver that has an antenna input. Third, the network stream the HD HomeRun provides to your home network is easily recordable with no signal degradation or proprietary file format. That's the part where the old Windows Media Center system shined best!

Did I correctly understand your questions?
What I know is this. With my Homerun connected via ethernet directly to a PC and using WMC, my TVs tuner had a much clearer picture than the Homerun. Now with the Haaupage tuner they are equal in PQ.
I only use my living room TV for DVR purposes. My bedroom TV is directly connected to an antenna feed. So I have two TVs total. I'm thinking maybe it has something to do with throughput. Maybe USB is faster than my PC's ethernet (6 yr old dell). Or maybe its just the quality of tuner. The Hauppage tuner also changes channels faster.
So I guess it comes down to how you want to use it. Do you want to stream it to a lot of TVs, than the homerun would be the way to go. I'm all about picture quality. Here the Hauppage wins out.
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What I know is this. With my Homerun connected via ethernet directly to a PC and using WMC, my TVs tuner had a much clearer picture than the Homerun. Now with the Haaupage tuner they are equal in PQ.
I only use my living room TV for DVR purposes. My bedroom TV is directly connected to an antenna feed. So I have two TVs total. I'm thinking maybe it has something to do with throughput. Maybe USB is faster than my PC's ethernet (6 yr old dell). Or maybe its just the quality of tuner. The Hauppage tuner also changes channels faster.
So I guess it comes down to how you want to use it. Do you want to stream it to a lot of TVs, than the homerun would be the way to go. I'm all about picture quality. Here the Hauppage wins out.
I've known Hauppage to have a good reputation.
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