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$10 cheaper than this morning, and the same price as Microcenter after tax.

This is a great mATX board, with good VRMs that include heatsinks, 4 RAM slots, 2 m2 slots, and good PCI slot layout. Just make sure to put RAM in slots A2 and B2 first to run it at full speed.

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Nice find - OP ... just wishing NE packages full size ATX boards as a choice too.
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The one at microcenter includes a wraith cooler, while this does not.
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The one at microcenter includes a wraith cooler, while this does not.
This isn't accurate. All retail box 2600's will have the same air cooler included.
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This isn't accurate. All retail box 2600's will have the same air cooler included.
Ah.. Did not know that. Thanks.
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Debating- buy now or wait 2 weeks?
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Debating- buy now or wait 2 weeks?
11 days until computex
i'd say wait to hear what's coming
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Debating- buy now or wait 2 weeks?
2 weeks until the announcement of what will be for sale, then another 1-2 months for retail.

The new Ryzen chips will be a moderate increase over the 2xxx series, but nothing remotely like the fake stuff published in December suggesting that they'll be mass-producing 5GHz+ chips running at 95w or that they'll have an 8-core 3600 at 65w for $178. Beyond defying the laws of physics, it's economically laughable.

I expect 200MHz increases across lines (maybe), but no core increases. A 1600 is 3.2GHz, a 2600 is 3.4GHz, so the 3600 should be 3.6GHz across 6 cores/12 threads, and will probably launch around $200-220. Even more realistic might be a 100MHz increase in core speed and a slight bump in turbo speed, offset by larger coolers in stock packaging.

The big difference in the 3xxx line will be support for RAM up to 4000Mhz. Since the vast majority of us can't tell the difference between 2400 and 3200 RAM already, it's unlikely that most of us will be able to tell the difference between 3200 and 4000 either. Even if we can, the 4000 stuff is going to be expensive for a while, unlike the 2800-3200 speeds, which have been overproduced for a couple of years and are about to be dirt cheap.

A Ryzen 2600 with 32Gb of 3200 RAM bought cheap today while it's all at rock-bottom prices is a heck of a lot cheaper, and far more bang for your buck than a full-price B550 motherboard, Ryzen 3xxx chip, and 16Gb 4000 RAM bought right when they hit the market, and thus at full price. Unless the Gen3 Ryzens are a complete retooling of the CPU design and production process - and they're not- they're going to be no more significant an increase than the 2xxx series is over the 1xxx.
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Unless the Gen3 Ryzens are a complete retooling of the CPU design and production process - and they're not- they're going to be no more significant an increase than the 2xxx series is over the 1xxx.
I've use desktops with a Ryzen 7 1800x (Zen) CPU on a x370 mainboard and a Ryzen 7 2700x (Zen+) on an x470 mainboard,

If it weren't for running exhaustive benchmarks which the performance delta is less than 8% between both desktops I wouldn't have noticed ANY difference from day to day experiences.

Furthermore I could have saved $100, if I purchased another Ryzen 7 1800x instead of a recent purchase of the Ryzen 7 2700x. One could argue future-proof status of the Ryzen 7 2700x, but Ryzen 7 1800x won't be outmoded any time soon either.

As time progresses, I'll keep my eye on the benchmarks to see if it will be compelling to sell off the Ryzen 7 1800x some time next year. It's fortunate at least AMD makes CPUs that supports the manufacturers chipsets within an acceptable period of time.

I anticipate I won't have to dump the x370 mainboard (Asus ROG Crosshair VI Extreme) when the cpu goes. It remains to be seen how far out Asus keeps updating new BIOS which recently a new one came out to support Zen 2.

Just to throw it out there, I've read an online article about Ryzen 7 2800x existing. Tried to search for supporting articles about that. Someone on this forum might know more.
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Furthermore I could have saved $100, if I purchased another Ryzen 7 1800x instead of a recent purchase of the Ryzen 7 2700x. One could argue future-proof status of the Ryzen 7 2700x, but Ryzen 7 1800x won't be outmoded any time soon either.
One could even argue that any purchase of an "X" model is unnecessary, since with proper cooling and dialing, the 2700 can be made to run as fast as the 2700X. My rule is to run non-X processors at home and for people who know what they're doing, since we're controlling the OCs on them, and to build "X" systems for people who run them stock.

The only reason I'm building gaming systems on the 2600 and workstations on the 2700 instead of the 1600/1700 (and their X variants) right now is because the games can be ebayed for around $40, making the +200MHz only about $20. Otherwise the first-gen chips are generally the better value.
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One could even argue that any purchase of an "X" model is unnecessary, since with proper cooling and dialing, the 2700 can be made to run as fast as the 2700X. My rule is to run non-X processors at home and for people who know what they're doing, since we're controlling the OCs on them, and to build "X" systems for people who run them stock.

The only reason I'm building gaming systems on the 2600 and workstations on the 2700 instead of the 1600/1700 (and their X variants) right now is because the games can be ebayed for around $40, making the +200MHz only about $20. Otherwise the first-gen chips are generally the better value.
I'll add to this, the X variant of these cpu's come with better coolers and require less heat and energy to reach higher speeds. Thus you don't need to buy the more expensive gaming mobos. The B450 mobos are inexpensive and include PBO for automatic overclocking when needed.
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