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Regular price of $169. Use coupon PRESUMMER to bring the price to 135.20. Free shipping.
It has been cheaper before but I think this is a good price for the master system and screws. Looks like it

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Kreg-Jig...174068563?
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I've used pocket holes on just about everything. Granted I use glue as well but have yet to had one fail.

"The superior strength of a pocket hole joint has actually been proven. Independent testing found that a pocket screw joint failed at 707 pounds when subjected to a shear load while a comparable mortise and tenon joint failed at 453 pounds - meaning that the pocket screw joint was approximately 35% stronger."
-Rockler
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Congratulations, you found a guy on youtube with a preconceived bias against pocket holes who uses a multithousand dollar tool to make his preferred joints and has designed a test to make them fail by using old scrap wood in an odd cantilevered construction that no one would use in real life. In actual use, that piece would be supported at both ends, completely changing the fail dynamic. Basically all he did in that "test" was show that his cheap scrap wood can't hold a screw.

To others: Yes, the Kreg is "plastic", but it is a very high quality glass filled nylon that simply does not break. The moving and wear parts are steel. All expensive hand held power tools are similar, being made out of plastic with metal in the parts that move.

This jig is far superior to the HF one in its quality and adjustability. The HF jig can only be used accurately with two thicknesses of stock - only one of which has an appropriate shallow angle. While the Kreg can be adjusted incrementally through a wide range of thicknesses with perfectly placed holes at the proper depth and proper angle.

And sure, some other jigs mentioned have the benefit of auto-adjusting, however for most projects you'll find that you're only putting pocket holes in one thickness of wood. Even if you have to change sizes mid-project, the adjustments on the Kreg are quick and easy slowing your work down by maybe a minute.
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who care both works, one takes longer and one is faster. You're not building a house or some safety devise you're building a freakin box or bookcase or table. Who cares if its nails or finger joint or pocket holes.
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You can also get the K5 Master Kit for $151.20 using the same coupon PRESUMMER

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Kreg-Jig...2368385404
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The entire Kreg eco system is just overpriced junk. Dont waste your money on this garbage.
Do you have an alternative that you have used and would recommend? It does seem expensive being that it's plastic, but it's also very well reviewed.
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The best wood joint would be to avoid a pocket hole joint all together.

If you must use a pocket hole and have no other option go with a HF knock off and save some money.

https://www.harborfreight.com/por...96264.html

A pocket hole jig is for convenience not strength or durability. All the videos produced by Kreg give the wrong impression that their joints are some how strong, they are not. Very deceptive practice on part of Kreg.
I've used pocket holes on just about everything. Granted I use glue as well but have yet to had one fail.

"The superior strength of a pocket hole joint has actually been proven. Independent testing found that a pocket screw joint failed at 707 pounds when subjected to a shear load while a comparable mortise and tenon joint failed at 453 pounds - meaning that the pocket screw joint was approximately 35% stronger."
-Rockler
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Congratulations for falling for their own marketing crap.

Rick from Rick and Morty - "They are the writers of of their own press releases Morty."

Pocket holes vs. mortise and tenon joints
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=apsH8eBfjVA
Glue doesn't make these pocket holes stronger
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WMi6W2cvw7g
Pocket holes are fine for a lot of applications, fast and efficient. You don't need a ton of strength for most joints. If you need a lot of strength don't use an inferior material like wood...that's why metal and welding we're invented. Let's see this dweeb break a weld with his half azz setup
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Pocket holes are fine for a lot of applications, fast and efficient. You don't need a ton of strength for most joints. If you need a lot of strength don't use an inferior material like wood...that's why metal and welding we're invented. Let's see this dweeb break a weld with his half azz setup
LOL dweeb. He does have that vibe. I applaud his love for wood joints tho.
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Congratulations for falling for their own marketing crap.

Rick from Rick and Morty - "They are the writers of of their own press releases Morty."

Pocket holes vs. mortise and tenon joints
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=apsH8eBfjVA
Glue doesn't make these pocket holes stronger
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WMi6W2cvw7g
who care both works, one takes longer and one is faster. You're not building a house or some safety devise you're building a freakin box or bookcase or table. Who cares if its nails or finger joint or pocket holes.
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The entire Kreg eco system is just overpriced junk. Dont waste your money on this garbage.
It's not junk...but its over price for plastic...nothing about their product screams premium but they're charing premium price.
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who care both works, one takes longer and one is faster. You're not building a house or some safety devise you're building a freakin box or bookcase or table. Who cares if its nails or finger joint or pocket holes.
Exactly, perfect for built in cabinets or base cabinet boxes. No clamps or glue needed. You would need 20 big clamps to build a set of cabinet bases. None required with pocket screws. That being said, 100 bucks is pretty steep, I got an older model at a garage sale for like 10. These are definitely way faster for setup then the cheap ones that you have to clamp and allign every hole with. And they give you the screws and the setup clamp, worth 40-50
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I have used the HF version and it has very nice construction and solidly built. BUT, there are two holes for measurements. The Kreg slides up and down and is more accurate. The HF one is not accurate at all. Your screws will pop out of the joining wood.
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I have had a K5 for years, and there is no problem with the joints.

Will it hold with two trucks and chains on opposite ends? No. Congrats, you just pulled a Kreg Joint apart.

If you don't try to ruin that which you just created, you'll be fine, says my 55" TV that has sat on my Kreg joint entertainment center for 4 years.
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