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Could you get worse timings?
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Could you get worse timings?
I thought this might be an upgrade route for my Threadripper until I saw those timings ouch!
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timings could improve but typically anything above 3200 you will see higher timings 18/19 range, especially at < $100 price point. on the plus side, reviewers stated it could easily run 16 timings @ 3200 which honestly is good value/performance point anyways!
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It's Hynix CJR, which is good for Ryzen build
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Could you get worse timings?

IDK. sr71 usually does not put any effort into their initial posts. Just a shotgun effect direct to front page:


DDR4 3600 (PC4 28800)
Timing 19-20-20-40
CAS Latency 19
Voltage 1.35V
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timings could improve but typically anything above 3200 you will see higher timings 18/19 range, especially at < $100 price point. on the plus side, reviewers stated it could easily run 16 timings @ 3200 which honestly is good value/performance point anyways!

I'm not sure I agree with you. I bought some Crucial RAM last month that was 3200Mhz 16CL on the box. I have them now running at 3533Mhz 16.19.19.38.


I doubt you could do the same with the RAM in the OP because I'm guessing if they could have binned with tighter timings they would have done that. [Edit: Although I do see a review saying they got 3400mhz CL 16 form them. ]But, who knows, with the chip glut, and it's all a lottery when it comes to overclocking anyway.
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I'm not sure I agree with you. I bought some Crucial RAM last month that was 3200Mhz 16CL on the box. I have them now running at 3533Mhz 16.19.19.38.


I doubt you could do the same with the RAM in the OP because I'm guessing if they could have binned with tighter timings they would have done that. [Edit: Although I do see a review saying they got 3400mhz CL 16 form them. ]But, who knows, with the chip glut, and it's all a lottery when it comes to overclocking anyway.
Is it possible the manufacturer sells these with "higher" timings so they can offer it cheaper very well knowing they can support much lower? Maybe its like TV's and other Electronics where the Manufacturer offers the BEST quality in Model A than starts restricting features and quality to sell it under cheaper Model B. This saves them a TON on research QA etc.
Just a Thought.
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Is it possible the manufacturer sells these with "higher" timings so they can offer it cheaper very well knowing they can support much lower? Maybe its like TV's and other Electronics where the Manufacturer offers the BEST quality in Model A than starts restricting features and quality to sell it under cheaper Model B. This saves them a TON on research QA etc.
Just a Thought.

That is why i mentioned the chip glut. It's possible there are better binned chips in these simply because if one has a glut, then why keep making more chips and not use what ever you have on hand. Like I also said, a lottery.
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I'm the reviewer on there that's running them on an X99 board. I have 64GB (8 sticks) in a quad channel configuration running at 3200 MHz and 16-17-17-36 and a 1T command rate.

Overall I'm happy with the purchase. They're cheap, fast and have the same latency as my old 2400MHz sticks (which i sold last November for the same price I got these at the time like $120). Picked a second set of 4 up at $85/pair a couple of weeks ago.

Torture-tested them and there weren't any errors at the clocks/CAS latencies I'm using.

I picked these up so if I move to a HEDT Ryzen/Threadripper board the infinity fabric will tick at the higher memory clock rate.

If you're going for raw speed to help the IF tick at a higher rate, these are a good deal.
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On a side note all - I have Ryzen 2700x with Asus Rog x470 Mobo and 16GB HyperX 3333mhz Ram. I get BSOD's on BOTH XMP profiles during benchmarks (Performance Mark) and my latency is horrid. I understand Ryzen has this issue with latency but does that affect real world performance? The most stable I can get is 2999mhz with the same timings as the 3200mhz XMP profile (don't remember what they are). I'm just wondering if I'm better off buying something like 2600mhz and just OC to 3000mhz maybe this will get me better timings and just as fast speeds? Then there is all that B-Die stuff etc - SOOO confusing to me.
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Could you get worse timings?
On paper, no.

Then you crank this RAM down to 3200 C14 and it's as fast as B-Die on Ryzen 2xxx systems and you're a f'ing genius for having the fastest RAM on the market in your gaming machine for $50 less than anyone else.
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I have this memory with a 2700x (@ 4200 all cores) Asrock Taichi and running (auto not XMP) @ 3600 1.38v 16-28-28-58 , and have not even tried to oc it as of yet . ~ At my current timings Iam happy with it , even if I dont try and oc it .

I may grab another set , or go more likely go 2x16gig with the same series if it doesnt effect timings too much .

Btw , this memory is Hynix C-Die .
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I have this memory with a 2700x (@ 4200 all cores) Asrock Taichi and running (auto not XMP) @ 3600 1.38v 16-28-28-58 , and have not even tried to oc it as of yet . ~ At my current timings Iam happy with it , even if I dont try and oc it .

I may grab another set , or go more likely go 2x16gig with the same series if it doesnt effect timings too much .

Btw , this memory is Hynix C-Die .
Is hynix c good? New to this memory stuff..
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On paper, no.

Then you crank this RAM down to 3200 C14 and it's as fast as B-Die on Ryzen 2xxx systems and you're a f'ing genius for having the fastest RAM on the market in your gaming machine for $50 less than anyone else.
3200 C14 feels like a stretch, but 3200 CL15 is very achievable, and is a good price for this RAM. That said - it doesnt matter how you get to the latency - whether by reducing timing or increaseing frequency - and I doubt you'll see a real world difference from 3600 CL 19 vs 3200 CL 15.
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