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Apple 21.5" iMac with Retina 4K Display (Mid 2017) MNDY2LL/A $899

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This is the lower model and older 2017, but jumped on it at this price. Figure if it seems too slow, I have ram and i7cpu on another computer not used much. I can buy a SSD and learn how to do a new ISO install - not sure how difficult it would be. I would only do email, web searching and garage band or other music programs so will see how it works out first.

I imagine this is probably closing out at this price.


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3.0 GHz Intel Core i5 Quad-Core
8GB of DDR4 RAM | 1TB Hard Drive
21.5" 4096 x 2304 IPS Retina 4K Display
AMD Radeon Pro 555 Graphics Card (2GB)
UHS-II SDXC Card Reader
Thunderbolt 3 | USB 3.0 Type-A
802.11ac Wi-Fi | Bluetooth 4.2
1 x Gigabit Ethernet Port
Magic Keyboard & Magic Mouse 2 Included
macOS



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The 5400 rpm drive can be upgraded so maybe worth the investment
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read they have external SSD drives than can plug into usb port and have the operating system there - another alternate to opening it up. Have to see how to do a new operating system install
The hard drive can be upgraded to SSD like 3D, ram can also be upgraded with 2 dimm slots, you will have to remove the screen though
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64-step process to upgrade SSD/memory. Not for the faint of heart:
https://www.ifixit.com/Guide/iMac...rade/92904
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The 4K model with a faster CPU, GPU and that also already has a Fusion Drive is now marked down to $1,049.

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64-step process to upgrade SSD/memory. Not for the faint of heart:
https://www.ifixit.com/Guide/iMac...rade/92904
This made it go from an interesting deal, to GTFO...
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The 4K model with a faster CPU, GPU and that also already has a Fusion Drive is now marked down to $1,049.

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/pr...etina.html
What is sad about the fusion drives is over the years apple has slowly reduced the amount of ssd in the fusion drive essentially reducing the drive to a regularly hard drive. If you buy this expect to open it up (not easy) and upgrade the ram and hd to ssd. Or buy a ssd to dangle off 1 of your 2 usb c ports and put system files there. Neither option is for a non techie.
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Actually, both plugging external SATA SSD and swapping SSD would work fine, and I did try both. For the external SSD, the normal USB 3.0 also works, so you can just get an enclosure. No PCI-E mount on this model...

Memory replacement requires some sophisticated work, but it is also worthwhile to consider given the relatively lower price on DDR 4 2400MHz ram. I paid about $80 for swapping both at the end of the warranty period. For normal work, using external SSD should be good enough and it won't void the warranty. Otherwise, it should be extended to 32GB based on EveryMac (although officially it's said 16GB).
https://everymac.com/systems/appl...specs.html

If you have a nice monitor, the new Mac mini would also be a good contender because of the 8th Intel CPU, easier installation for RAM, and relatively cheap e-GPU considering the performance.
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Please know that if you buy this, you're going to experience slow down due to that mechanical hard drive and as CompulsiveBuyer pointed out, it's not a simple thing to swap out.

You can have an external boot drive, but you're better off spending more money up front to have an SSD inside.
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Someone fill me in here but what the hell is the point of having a gigabit internet if your HDD is 5400 rpm... That's gonna throttle any internet you get down to 10mb/s write speed...
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What is sad about the fusion drives is over the years apple has slowly reduced the amount of ssd in the fusion drive essentially reducing the drive to a regularly hard drive. If you buy this expect to open it up (not easy) and upgrade the ram and hd to ssd. Or buy a ssd to dangle off 1 of your 2 usb c ports and put system files there. Neither option is for a non techie.
Very true. That's why when I recently bought a closeout 27" iMac I had to get one with the 2TB Fusion Drive so it would at least have the same 128GB SSD as my previous iMac. I didn't want to downgrade to only 32GB which is what they now include with the 1TB Fusion Drives.
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64-step process to upgrade SSD/memory. Not for the faint of heart:
https://www.ifixit.com/Guide/iMac...rade/92904
These are a nightmare to work on. Used to work as a tech at Apple. Definitely not for the faint of heart. Good price though, but for that drive, no thanks.
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read they have external SSD drives than can plug into usb port and have the operating system there - another alternate to opening it up. Have to see how to do a new operating system install
I bought an SSD and put it in this Sabrent USB 3 case a few years back for my Mac Mini, works well for me:
https://www.amazon.com/Sabrent-To...pons&psc=1

As far as installing macOS, you should be able to download the installer from App Store, pick the drive you want to install it to and be on your way. Just make sure the Mac is set to recognize it as the preferred boot disk. The internal drive can then be erased/reformatted and used to store data (music files, photos, etc) or Windows via Bootcamp or whatever you please.
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Very true. That's why when I recently bought a closeout 27" iMac I had to get one with the 2TB Fusion Drive so it would at least have the same 128GB SSD as my previous iMac. I didn't want to downgrade to only 32GB which is what they now include with the 1TB Fusion Drives.
Thanks for confirming this.

Also unless you buy a ssd version iMac there is no connector to add your own nvme ssd when you open this up. Another limitation in these entry model iMacs.
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