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Decent deal of you don't want to do any 4k video. Both lenses are the older type. The 70-300mm lens that's really good is around the same price of the bundle by itself. The 18-55mm is the older one that everyone was complaining about.
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Does anybody have thoughts on how this compares to the recent front page Canon 80D kit with the 18-55mm IS STM and the 55-250mm IS STM lenses?
https://slickdeals.net/f/13157191-canon-80d-camera-ef-s-18-55-lens-55-250-is-stm-lens-refurb-700-more-free-s-h?v=1

This Nikon kit is $200 cheaper, but it seems like the Canon lenses are better since they're both IS STM lenses, and I've heard the 80D is great for video and has amazing auto-focus and face-tracking. The size difference doesn't matter much to me, and I'll primarily be using it for prosumer level video (making sizzle reels for conferences, recording interviews, filming entry-level music videos), and some basic photography (portraits, band photos, personal photography). I'm a nerd who learns things quickly and deeply, so I want a body that's above my current skills so that I have room to grow with it without having to upgrade anytime soon.

Any thoughts from people who do DSLR video production and portrait photography would be great. Cheers!
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Does anybody have thoughts on how this compares to the recent front page Canon 80D kit with the 18-55mm IS STM and the 55-250mm IS STM lenses?
https://slickdeals.net/f/13157191-canon-80d-camera-ef-s-18-55-lens-55-250-is-stm-lens-refurb-700-more-free-s-h?v=1

This Nikon kit is $200 cheaper, but it seems like the Canon lenses are better since they're both IS STM lenses, and I've heard the 80D is great for video and has amazing auto-focus and face-tracking. The size difference doesn't matter much to me, and I'll primarily be using it for prosumer level video (making sizzle reels for conferences, recording interviews, filming entry-level music videos), and some basic photography (portraits, band photos, personal photography). I'm a nerd who learns things quickly and deeply, so I want a body that's above my current skills so that I have room to grow with it without having to upgrade anytime soon.

Any thoughts from people who do DSLR video production and portrait photography would be great. Cheers!
The 80D is a MUCH better camera than this one. Canon has amazing auto focus and their lenses are great...even their 18-55mm kit lens takes great photos. Plus the 80D comes with the 18-135mm instead of the 18-55. But both have image stabilization. I have the canon T7i which is a baby brother to the 80D...same sensor & processors. You won't regret getting the Canon
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The 80D is a MUCH better camera than this one. Canon has amazing auto focus and their lenses are great...even their 18-55mm kit lens takes great photos. Plus the 80D comes with the 18-135mm instead of the 18-55. But both have image stabilization. I have the canon T7i which is a baby brother to the 80D...same sensor & processors. You won't regret getting the Canon
Great! Thank you for the excellent response and info. I kind of assumed the Canon would be worth the extra, but I just wanted to make sure since my budget is super modest.

Do you have any recommended accessories or next lenses? I've seen a lot of positive reviews on the 50mm f/1.8 fixed lens for portraits, and everyone says even a $100 gimbal will be worth its weight in gold for smooth motion shots when filming.
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Decent deal of you don't want to do any 4k video. Both lenses are the older type. The 70-300mm lens that's really good is around the same price of the bundle by itself. The 18-55mm is the older one that everyone was complaining about.
Both lenses are the very desirable DX-P and their latest and best kits lenses ever. No one complains about the 18-55 that is at least somewhat competent.
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Both lenses are the very desirable DX-P and their latest and best kits lenses ever. No one complains about the 18-55 that is at least somewhat competent.
But it is the older 18-55 lens, the new one is much better.
It is the lower 70-300 lens, there's much better ones.
Neither are desirable to anyone that has been taking photos for over a few months.
Both lenses are an older model, that's what I said. Don't twist my words.
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But it is the older 18-55 lens, the new one is much better.
It is the lower 70-300 lens, there's much better ones.
Neither are desirable to anyone that has been taking photos for over a few months.
Both lenses are an older model, that's what I said. Don't twist my words.
Give me a break. I use both of those "undesirable" lenses. There's nothing wrong with them. I shoot sports photography on the weekends with fantastic results.
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Give me a break. I use both of those "undesirable" lenses. There's nothing wrong with them. I shoot sports photography on the weekends with fantastic results.
I'm sorry you never used the better ones but my opinion still is just that, my opinion.
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Great! Thank you for the excellent response and info. I kind of assumed the Canon would be worth the extra, but I just wanted to make sure since my budget is super modest.

Do you have any recommended accessories or next lenses? I've seen a lot of positive reviews on the 50mm f/1.8 fixed lens for portraits, and everyone says even a $100 gimbal will be worth its weight in gold for smooth motion shots when filming.
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The 80D is a MUCH better camera than this one. Canon has amazing auto focus and their lenses are great...even their 18-55mm kit lens takes great photos. Plus the 80D comes with the 18-135mm instead of the 18-55. But both have image stabilization. I have the canon T7i which is a baby brother to the 80D...same sensor & processors. You won't regret getting the Canon
uhh?


https://www.dxomark.com/Cameras/C..._1076_1139

DXOmark rates the d5600 higher across the board. it is lower FPS, and a "lower tier" but i'd take that sensor over the 80D.
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https://www.dxomark.com/Cameras/C..._1076_1139

DXOmark rates the d5600 higher across the board. it is lower FPS, and a "lower tier" but i'd take that sensor over the 80D.
Thanks for the link. I've checked out several auto-comparison sites, and it seems depending on which features they rank more heavily, these two cameras seem to be close on paper.

But I'm more looking for people's actual experience with the cameras, not just an algorithmic assessment of their specs, if that makes sense. The people I've talked to today who have experience with these cameras say the Canon is a far superior model with more room to grow for the things I'll be using it for. Not that the Nikon is bad by any means, clearly the sensor is spec'd well, but I'm going to be using this for some specific purposes as I mentioned in my original question, all of which show preference for the Canon. Still a great deal on this, though, especially for people with a slightly lower budget.
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But it is the older 18-55 lens, the new one is much better.
It is the lower 70-300 lens, there's much better ones.
Neither are desirable to anyone that has been taking photos for over a few months.
Both lenses are an older model, that's what I said. Don't twist my words.
You are mistaken as these DX-P lenses are Nikon's latest release and get rave reviews. I have both the IS model and non IS model of the 70-300 and the 18-55 comes in one flavor only..IS. Do some research please. DPreview is a good starting spot.
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You are mistaken as these DX-P lenses are Nikon's latest release and get rave reviews. I have both the IS model and non IS model of the 70-300 and the 18-55 comes in one flavor only..IS. Do some research please. DPreview is a good starting spot.
We can agree to disagree but saying there's only one flavor of each lens is very misinforming. If it's one flavor for the kit lens, perhaps, but some places upgrade their kits with better lenses. There's at least 5 variations of each lens in this kit, in which the ones in the kit aren't the best quality. Is it a great deal, yes! Is it the best lenses, no. Which was the point I was trying to make. Good dayPeace
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https://www.dxomark.com/Cameras/C..._1076_1139

DXOmark rates the d5600 higher across the board. it is lower FPS, and a "lower tier" but i'd take that sensor over the 80D.
I did MY RESEARCH based on REAL PHOTOGRAPHERS usage and experiences. Canon has BY FAR the best auto focus around. Peter McKinnon even said if he ever switched from canon he doesn't know how he'd manage without it. Canon glass is rated extremely high as well. You can put your faith in ONE SITES opinion...or you can actually do YOUR OWN RESEARCH and base your opinion on REAL WORLD EXPERIENCES

Plus the 80D has been used by more popular YouTube vloggers than ANY OTHER CAMERA.
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We can agree to disagree but saying there's only one flavor of each lens is very misinforming. If it's one flavor for the kit lens, perhaps, but some places upgrade their kits with better lenses. There's at least 5 variations of each lens in this kit, in which the ones in the kit aren't the best quality. Is it a great deal, yes! Is it the best lenses, no. Which was the point I was trying to make. Good dayPeace
The DX-P 18-55 comes in VR only, the 70-300 DX-P (the P stands for pulse motor) comes in VR and non VR version. There are no "5 variations". Your statement "arent the best quality" is incorrect as they have fast and silent AF (or manual, change setting in menu), lightweight, and deliver sharpe images. I shoot with all three..18-55, and both AF and non AF 70-300. Sharpness and AF speed exceeds my Nikon 18-140 and my Tamron 18-270.

"Nikon's engineering team did a great job in giving photographers a very good tool with several strong features: the lens is lightweight and it focuses fast – silently and reliably. Moreover, the lens features an optimized optical formula that produces very sharp photos, even when shooting wide open at the longest end of the zoom range (300mm). This lens basically obsoletes the previous 55-200mm and 55-300mm lenses in all aspects (except the limited range at the wide end) and compares favorably against other similar lenses such as the Nikon 70-300mm VR".

https://photographylife.com/revie...dx-vr-af-p

"Best in class". https://www.digitalcameraworld.co...kon-lenses
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