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I added Hubitat to my formerly Smartthings environment and have slowly migrated my smart home over. Loved that they can interact, so it didn't have to be an all or nothing immediate switch. Great product, better performance, and even more ability to customize! Plus, you can choose if you want cloud services, vs your every habit being constantly tracked (and with local execution, automatons work even if your internet is down).

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How easy is the migration process from Smartthings to this?
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How easy is the migration process from Smartthings to this?
I'd like to know this too
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So you can use both? SmartThings and Hubitat? What are the pros and cons to having both? ....if someone would educate on this I think it would pull people over the fence
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I have both and ended up retiring Hubitat.
It is not as 'offline' as it claims and a fair amount of integrations are online features.
Pretty much a ripoff of Smartthings code in a re-purposed android TV device from China with a off the shelf zigbee\zwave usb,
Not very impressive. Feels like something you would 'hack' together as a DYI home automation device vs a retail product.
And the interface needs some serious work.
But to each their own.... Just my two cents.

But if you do get the zigbee\zwave USB can be used with Home Assistant if you scrap Hubitat
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I have both and ended up retiring Hubitat.
It is not as 'offline' as it claims and a fair amount of integrations are online features.
Pretty much a ripoff of Smartthings code in a re-purposed android TV device from China with a off the shelf zigbee\zwave usb,
Not very impressive. Feels like something you would 'hack' together as a DYI home automation device vs a retail product.
And the interface needs some serious work.
But to each their own.... Just my two cents.

But if you do get the zigbee\zwave USB can be used with Home Assistant if you scrap Hubitat
Thanks for your insight!
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I have both and ended up retiring Hubitat.
It is not as 'offline' as it claims and a fair amount of integrations are online features.
Pretty much a ripoff of Smartthings code in a re-purposed android TV device from China with a off the shelf zigbee\zwave usb,
Not very impressive. Feels like something you would 'hack' together as a DYI home automation device vs a retail product.
And the interface needs some serious work.
But to each their own.... Just my two cents.

But if you do get the zigbee\zwave USB can be used with Home Assistant if you scrap Hubitat
Just a heads up the C5 unit here has a built in zwave/zigbee chip so it's not reusable for another platform

I'm also not sure about which stuff needs the cloud to work? Sure if it's a cloud device (harmony, Alexa, etc) but if you're automating a home of zwave and zigbee devices it's very much offline.

I'm still going through some ST to Hubitat migration pains but it has a lot of flexibility.

Feel free to ask any questions, I'm about one month into the migration.
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How easy is the migration process from Smartthings to this?
Basically just remove the device from ST, and then add it to Hubitat. It's tedious if you have a lot of devices, but not difficult. Most of the time goes into actually setting up the automations that you want (this is definitely a tool first and foremost meant to help with home automations, with a side perk of remote access)
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So you can use both? SmartThings and Hubitat? What are the pros and cons to having both? ....if someone would educate on this I think it would pull people over the fence
I can let you know my experience!

First of all, yes, you can use both. There is two way integration, so I can control my HE devices from ST and my ST devices from HE, as well as see their status. You can choose which devices to make available to each. At this exact moment, I have half of my house running on HE and the other half (physical sides of the house) running off ST. I can control everything through Hubitat, Smartthings, or Google Home.

Yes, this is redundant, but I view it as something of a stepping stone as I move the rest over to Hubitat. I may keep Smartthings around because I like the manual remote interface/controls, and to power a ceiling fan and my front door lock...but I'll probably try each on Hubitat first before keeping two around.

I haven't experienced any cons to having both, since the integration is two way. The biggest pro is that automations/rules/timers execute locally on Hubitat, which is great when I use a remote or double tap down on a light switch to turn off all the upstairs lights. At the same time, as Hubitat is automation first and manual control more as a side effect, I still like the Smartthings app better for remote access control of lights/locks/etc.

It is nice that I don't have to worry about ST Cloud or internet/wifi/router issues affecting my device automations. Nothing drove me nuts more than double tapping a switch and the lights not all turning off because ST was down, or my router was going through a daily reboot. Not an issue with Hubitat.

Hope that helps!
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I have both and ended up retiring Hubitat.
It is not as 'offline' as it claims and a fair amount of integrations are online features.
Pretty much a ripoff of Smartthings code in a re-purposed android TV device from China with a off the shelf zigbee\zwave usb,
Not very impressive. Feels like something you would 'hack' together as a DYI home automation device vs a retail product.
And the interface needs some serious work.
But to each their own.... Just my two cents.

But if you do get the zigbee\zwave USB can be used with Home Assistant if you scrap Hubitat
I mean, Hubitat itself runs completely offline from an automation standpoint. Once you have your zigbee/zwave local devices connected, you don't even need your router/wifi up for rules and automations to just work. Of course, you need wifi (but not internet) to manually control devices from your phone or computer, and internet for remote control or other online services (Alexa, Google Home, IFTTT, etc), but the Hubitat itself runs offline.

I do agree that it could be more polished. Although I will say that it has been getting better, it's not as clean as signing up for a Gmail account with an intuitive interface. The support is fantastic, however, which to me sets it above a DIY project for intermediate home automation users out there.

I actually purchased and returned the original version with the USB stick because I didn't think it was far enough along. When I came back about 6 months later, the user community support, built in drivers, GH integration, and advancements in the standard apps kept me around.
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I had Smartthing and switched to hubitat. Initially I was annoyed with it but it was just the initial learning curve which I had with Smartthings as well. I ended up selling my smartthings and now use only hubitat. After configuring it how I need it just works and FAST. Everything is local processing except if you have devices that are only accessible via the cloud but for my Zwave and zigbee devices it's all local and fast. I have a zigbee iris keypad and a Zwave siren that works with it for my makeshift home security and it all works great with Smartthings multipurpose sensors and motion sensors.

I recommend it 100% but know it will take some learning how to do things with it but if you have Smartthing already, it's nothing you can't learn. I switched because my automations I'm smartthings were taking too long and inconsistent. I have had ZERO issues with automations not running or running slowly with hubitat. Recommended!
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I have both and ended up retiring Hubitat.
It is not as 'offline' as it claims and a fair amount of integrations are online features.
Pretty much a ripoff of Smartthings code in a re-purposed android TV device from China with a off the shelf zigbee\zwave usb,
Not very impressive. Feels like something you would 'hack' together as a DYI home automation device vs a retail product.
And the interface needs some serious work.
But to each their own.... Just my two cents.

But if you do get the zigbee\zwave USB can be used with Home Assistant if you scrap Hubitat
I too have both hubs but my experience is just the opposite. Everything, and I mean everything is local. And don't be be foolish, it can't make a cloud platform (Alexa) local. Both hubs use groovy, and are zigbee and zwave devices.
With smartthings I was always pulling out my phone to find out why things weren't working. With hubitat automation, stuff just works, I walk in light comes on, sunset comes all outside lights go on, and off at sunrise. Door locks itself after 2 minutes and so many other things I forget because they just work.
Only reason I bought it was because of the easy return, never returned it because despite being only a year old company, the things they have accomplished are incredible. Nothing I'm aware of in the automation community gives you so much for so little. I just bought another hub to do some experimenting with.
My 2 cents is highly recommended, and that comes from a freak with over 100 devices on my HA setup.
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I too have both hubs but my experience is just the opposite. Everything, and I mean everything is local. And don't be be foolish, it can't make a cloud platform (Alexa) local. Both hubs use groovy, and are zigbee and zwave devices.
With smartthings I was always pulling out my phone to find out why things weren't working. With hubitat automation, stuff just works, I walk in light comes on, sunset comes all outside lights go on, and off at sunrise. Door locks itself after 2 minutes and so many other things I forget because they just work.
Only reason I bought it was because of the easy return, never returned it because despite being only a year old company, the things they have accomplished are incredible. Nothing I'm aware of in the automation community gives you so much for so little. I just bought another hub to do some experimenting with.
My 2 cents is highly recommended, and that comes from a freak with over 100 devices on my HA setup.
SmartThings user since 2014 and ST has local execution. You just have to buy the right products.
I have over 100 devices as well and most all locally controlled with local automations on ST.
I do not use the SmartThings app because my automations are... automated. And if I do use an app then it's the Home app on my iOS
Once you are able to understand the environmental factors affecting SmartThings then you are able to overcome minor inconveniences.
For instance. 35-45 devices were showing offline a couple of days ago. I noticed they were all zigbee. Took me a few min to recall a past experience so I checked my new AX router. Sure enough the 2.4ghz was on auto set to channel 11. Changed to channel 8 and all offline ST devices were instantly fixed.
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It is not as 'offline' as it claims and a fair amount of integrations are online features.
I challenge you to point us to any statement by Hubitat that misrepresents this. Hubitat does not depend on the cloud or Internet to execute automations with devices that themselves have no cloud dependency. When I walk into a room, the light comes on right now. With SmartThings, you might have to wait several seconds while the motion detector tells the light switch to come on via the cloud. Of course, Hubitat offers integration with things that themselves are cloud-dependent. Alexa, for example.

I used SmartThings for quite a while before transitioning to Hubitat. I thought I would be in a transition period for a while, but the migration went so well, I moved everything over in a few days. I would suggest those considering the move to look at https://docs.hubitat.com/index.ph...le_Devices to see how many of their devices are natively supported.

The only thing that I'd say I miss from SmartThings is ActionTiles (not part of ST, but a third party add-on). The dashboard capability in Hubitat is a little immature, although I can do about 90% of what I want to do. I'll note also that an ActionTiles like third-party product for Hubitat exists that may be as good or better than ActionTiles, but the license model is subscription, and not inexpensive.
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