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Night Owl 4 Channel 1080p DVR with 4 x 1080p Cameras and 1 TB HDD- YMMV $40

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I searched and did not see this one posted yet. Local Walmart around me is showing 2 in stock for $40. Will be checking after work today. Another 6 at a store 35miles away. Get to searching.

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Some pretty bad reviews on Amazon. Maybe there is a reason they are $40.

https://www.amazon.com/Night-Owl-...geNumber=2
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Heads up, the box says you can set this up such that you can view the feed over the internet.

You Can't!!!

I'm a techie very familiar with settings up equipment and properly setting up port forward rules on the router and for some reason, this guy does not want to go online.

This unit works perfectly fine if you don't need online access.
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Heads up, the box says you can set this up such that you can view the feed over the internet.

You Can't!!!

I'm a techie very familiar with settings up equipment and properly setting up port forward rules on the router and for some reason, this guy does not want to go online.

This unit works perfectly fine if you don't need online access.
Hi angela417...

Can you see it on your LAN?
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Heads up, the box says you can set this up such that you can view the feed over the internet.

You Can't!!!

I'm a techie very familiar with settings up equipment and properly setting up port forward rules on the router and for some reason, this guy does not want to go online.

This unit works perfectly fine if you don't need online access.
I am a tech contractor, and I just installed this same exact model for a customer just last month, and yes you can view them over the internet, you need to make sure you set it as a static IP, and all the port forwarding is done correctly, and you can view them.
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I am a tech contractor, and I just installed this same exact model for a customer just last month, and yes you can view them over the internet, you need to make sure you set it as a static IP, and all the port forwarding is done correctly, and you can view them.
Hi Doitbigtfc,

remember:

DO NOT do port forwarding, the system will eventually get hijacked.

Use a VPN server on the router or other device. ( notes at ipcamtalk )
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Hi Doitbigtfc,

remember:

DO NOT do port forwarding, the system will eventually get hijacked.

Use a VPN server on the router or other device. ( notes at ipcamtalk )
Curious. Who would hijack it? Who wants to look at my driveway?
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Curious. Who would hijack it? Who wants to look at my driveway?
Hi JimBanville

Good question.. the answer is probably no one cares about YOUR driveway..

HOWEVER, they do care about your bank account and using your internet connection to steal bitcoin, attack banks, send out spam, put ransomware on your computers and computers of other companies...

SO - the reality is that your internet service and IP address assigned to YOU is what is valued to attack others and leave the blame to you.
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Hi Doitbigtfc,

remember:

DO NOT do port forwarding, the system will eventually get hijacked.

Use a VPN server on the router or other device. ( notes at ipcamtalk )
This guy knows whereof he speaks. A vpn helps keep your local network free of botnet shenanigans due to vendors choosing not to offer patches or just slapdash security on their part. (Password files in clear text for example.)

Openvpn is free and easy to use.
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Hi JimBanville

Good question.. the answer is probably no one cares about YOUR driveway..

HOWEVER, they do care about your bank account and using your internet connection to steal bitcoin, attack banks, send out spam, put ransomware on your computers and computers of other companies...

SO - the reality is that your internet service and IP address assigned to YOU is what is valued to attack others and leave the blame to you.
Just for discussion purposes...

If you open a port to your camera system. You change the default login and set a complex password on your camera system and use https to get to the camera's login page. Please tell me how a hacker can get into my entire network through the 1 port that's open and use my internet for nefarious reasons?

Please know I'm not trying to argue with you, I'm just trying to see risk in having a port open to your camera system.

While opening ports does put you more at risk than having none open, you are only in danger if an attack can exploit the service that is using that port. A port is not an all access pass to your PC/network if an attacker happens upon it. They would need to manipulate whatever it is on the other side to gain some type of basic system access, then they could 'maybe' gain enough privileges to compromise your system. It's a bit like leaving your car keys in a bathroom 100 miles away. While someone could use them to steal your car, they still have a loooong way to go to make it happen.
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Just for discussion purposes...

If you open a port to your camera system. You change the default login and set a complex password on your camera system and use https to get to the camera's login page. Please tell me how a hacker can get into my entire network through the 1 port that's open and use my internet for nefarious reasons?

Please know I'm not trying to argue with you, I'm just trying to see risk in having a port open to your camera system.

While opening ports does put you more at risk than having none open, you are only in danger if an attack can exploit the service that is using that port. A port is not an all access pass to your PC/network if an attacker happens upon it. They would need to manipulate whatever it is on the other side to gain some type of basic system access, then they could 'maybe' gain enough privileges to compromise your system. It's a bit like leaving your car keys in a bathroom 100 miles away. While someone could use them to steal your car, they still have a loooong way to go to make it happen.
Hi angela..

OK - let me use something which is easier for people to relate to.

Your house.

Image your house can have a front door in the worst neighborhood in the world.
Image you have the cheapest lock from home depot.

Now you think that lock will keep out those who want to rob you?

One option is for them to pick the lock.. easy enough to do
https://www.youtube.com/channel/U...6FQ/videos

Another is to kick the door down...

This is basically the analogy of how it works on the internet. If you have a port exposed it is similar to having a front door or other door in the worst neighborhood in the world.

You can look up video from defcon to find out how computers are broken into.

And.. also remember there's a master lock that works in some camera models ( aka hidden default passwords )

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bhY71LHRPK4
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