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THE AMTRAK GUEST REWARDS® WORLD MASTERCARD®
Get 40,000 bonus points after you make $2,500 or more in purchases on your new card within 90 days of account opening. (Regular offer 20,000 bonus points)


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ANNUAL FEE $79†

EARN 3 POINTS per $1 spent with Amtrak
EARN 2 POINTS per $1 spent on other qualifying travel purchases
EARN 1 POINT per $1 spent on all other purchases

* Enjoy a complimentary Companion Coupon, One-Class Upgrade and a Single-Visit Station Lounge Pass for access to ClubAcela, Amtrak Metropolitan Lounge℠ or First class lounges upon account opening.
* Get a 5% Amtrak Guest Rewards point rebate when you book your Amtrak redemption travel.
* 1,000 Tier Qualifying Points (TQPs) every time you make at least $5,000 in purchases in a calendar year, up to 4,000 TQPs
* No foreign transaction fees†
* There's no limit to how many points you can earn and you can redeem them when you want since your points will not expire as long as your card account is open.
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I've had nothing but trouble getting answers in writing -- via Twitter DMs and their webforms -- to basic Guest Rewards questions, so I won't be using Amtrak until they get with the times

Also, F BofA
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I've had nothing but trouble getting answers in writing -- via Twitter DMs and their webforms -- to basic Guest Rewards questions, so I won't be using Amtrak until they get with the times

Also, F BofA

I'll second BofA, double FFLMAO
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this is a good deal, actually.
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this is a good deal, actually.
Yes I've never seen 40k bonus points before this
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this is a good deal, actually.
Indeed it is.

Front page material.

Worth 1K for $79 AF and a little spend. No brainer.
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Sooooo ... For us newbies to Amtrak services....

How much is 40,000 pts generally worth?
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if you want to redeem for cash, how much is it worth?
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These points are valued at 2.5 cents by The Points Guy, so worth $1000 in that regard. Even more valuable than Chase UR points. Keep in mind they only transfer to a few hotels or a couple car rental agencies (no airline transfers). The points are ultimately only valuable if you have ways to use them.

https://thepointsguy.com/guide/mo...aluations/
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I'll second BofA, double FFLMAO
1) Triple F BOA. I have never experienced a worse bank. Even their fraud department has a 45 minute wait.

2) 40k is damn good. Never been that high...not even for the paid card (old Chase card was 10k, new BOA cards were 20k free, 30k paid).

3) The points guy is right that the points have great value at 2.5c.

4) New Amtrak rewards system sucks. Used to be blanket 3000 points per ticket, could book last minute any day of the week, and get refunds, but full of blackouts. Then it went to blanket 4000 points per ticket. Still good. Then they changed it to points equivalent from dollars. This had the benefit of making a ticket much cheaper in points (as low as like 1600 points for a $49 ticket) but had the huge downside of making last minute tickets well in excess of 4000 points. The break even point is $106 (assuming things haven't changed from when i first did the calculation at the start of the program). If the ticket is under $106, you are doing better than the previous system. Over $106 and you are getting screwed. Amtrak knew this and added the positive trade-off of removing blackout dates (previous system was full of blackouts). Sounds great right? On paper yup, in practice, nope. The blackout dates have now become peak times and you pay a 50% point commission to redeem. Tickets are well in excess of 4000 points, making holiday redemption not worth it. Oh, and they also removed full refunds (to be fair, this was am Amtrak-wide system, not just rewards; they have embraced the airline system. Even paid tickets are no full refunds, only 75%).

5) It's Amtrak. Unless you are on the NE Corridor, are you really taking it?
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So does the 40k points automatically put you in the tier where you get access to United lounges?

Also, if let's say you have a Sapphire Reserve (or other good point system card) and book Amtrak you get the chase points (3 per dollar for travel) and the Amtrak points. Using a card like this means you only get the 3 per dollar Amtrak points, correct?

Thanks in advance for any views on this
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1) New Amtrak ------- system sucks.

FTFY. I've got a great line from a town near me and have used it up the NE corridor (through DC to several points up to NYC) to great success. But the new airline-like restrictions, refund policies, elimination of senior/student discounts, and time-sensitive pricing has just about removed all the value. Unless I'm booking non-refundable months in advance, it's cheaper to fly direct to DC/PHL/NYC, and hours faster - even counting security. I love the Amtrak from 2-3 years ago, but whomever they have running the ship just torched most of the reasons I'd travel with them.
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FTFY. I've got a great line from a town near me and have used it up the NE corridor (through DC to several points up to NYC) to great success. But the new airline-like restrictions, refund policies, elimination of senior/student discounts, and time-sensitive pricing has just about removed all the value. Unless I'm booking non-refundable months in advance, it's cheaper to fly direct to DC/PHL/NYC, and hours faster - even counting security. I love the Amtrak from 2-3 years ago, but whomever they have running the ship just torched most of the reasons I'd travel with them.
2-3 years ago? Try 18 years ago. I was in NY for school, would visit my parents in Philly regularly on the weekends because Amtrak was so good - easy, affordable, and good system. You had unreserved trains (as opposed to this 100% reserved BS today. Yeah you risked standing room only, but damn you could get last minute tickets cheap). Student Advantage (which i had) was 15% off, making the membership very work it (it's now only 10%, which is the same as AAA and AARP) and you could buy the tickets WITH the discount at the window last minute. And as previously mentioned, 3000 points per ticket redemption. Full refunds.
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How much is the statement credit if we redeem 40K points?
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How much is the statement credit if we redeem 40K points?
I'm not share if you can get a statement credit, and even if you can that's not the best value of these points.

Best to use for Amtrak directly.

If you want a new credit card and are looking for cash back, look for a cash back card. This probably isn't for you
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