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I just noticed that Costco has dropped the price of this espresso machine by around $100. Just last month they had it for around $370. At the time it didn't seem like a good deal for an unproven machine from an unknown company, but at this price I might have given it a shot (so to speak) — especially with Costco's stellar return policy. The reviews on the Costco website average out to 3.7, which certainly isn't great. To me it looks like a copy of a Breville Infuser. Unfortunately, there's no mention of PID temperature control feature that all the Breville machines have. That's another negative to me. Anyway, I ended up going with another machine, but I'm posting this because this is such an impressive price. Best Buy and Williams-Sonoma both sell it for $400.
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could they rip this off any closer? I'm surprised they are not sued..
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I have been trying this machine for the last 2-3 weeks and the only reason I has not returned it to Costco yet is that I need to figure out a replacement.

I had Breville before and my biggest complaint was instability. Some shots came out great, others meh. Usually I could pull a good short shot but for guests who wanted a big cup, it was a torture. Big cups came out perfect from pre-ground coffee.

After a while I decided to try something else and got Brim. This thing never ever produced a good shot for me.

I just got La Pavoni Napolitana. Only had one day to try and still adjusting to it but so far I think it has potential to stay.
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It's an interesting machine being a knock-off Breville. Also, they provide 1 & 2 cup pressurized and unpressurized, a total of 4 portafilter baskets. That's good because if I'm going to spend $260 on a espresso machine I want non-pressurized baskets for better crema and flavor. Most machines this price range only come with pressurized. The second wand for hot water is another difference, and the heavy metal tamper is a nice touch.

I could be wrong, but it looks like a "kickstarter" type company. Their "about" page on their website states "BRIM INSPIRED BY COFFEE TRADITIONS SINCE 1961" Inspired by coffee traditions? I hope the engineering is as good as they hype. The best thing going for them is that Williams Sonoma and Costco carry their products.
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I have been trying this machine for the last 2-3 weeks and the only reason I has not returned it to Costco yet is that I need to figure out a replacement.

I had Breville before and my biggest complaint was instability. Some shots came out great, others meh. Usually I could pull a good short shot but for guests who wanted a big cup, it was a torture. Big cups came out perfect from pre-ground coffee.

After a while I decided to try something else and got Brim. This thing never ever produced a good shot for me.

I just got La Pavoni Napolitana. Only had one day to try and still adjusting to it but so far I think it has potential to stay.
That La Pavoni should be a lot better.
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could they rip this off any closer? I'm surprised they are not sued..
Yeah, it's pretty obvious.😬
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I have been trying this machine for the last 2-3 weeks and the only reason I has not returned it to Costco yet is that I need to figure out a replacement.

I had Breville before and my biggest complaint was instability. Some shots came out great, others meh. Usually I could pull a good short shot but for guests who wanted a big cup, it was a torture. Big cups came out perfect from pre-ground coffee.

After a while I decided to try something else and got Brim. This thing never ever produced a good shot for me.

I just got La Pavoni Napolitana. Only had one day to try and still adjusting to it but so far I think it has potential to stay.
What Breville did you have? I just a Bambino Plus due to arrive Friday. Keeping my fingers crossed that I like it..

As far as the Brim goes, people having trouble getting a decent shot out of it seems to be a common complaint. It's kind of a mystery machine. I haven't been able to find a decent review of it from someone I consider really knowledgeable. There's no cool video on YouTube showing someone pulling an amazing shot. I'm really not sure what to make of it.

Anyway, good luck with the Napolitana if you decide to keep it.
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It's an interesting machine being a knock-off Breville. Also, they provide 1 & 2 cup pressurized and unpressurized, a total of 4 portafilter baskets. That's good because if I'm going to spend $260 on a espresso machine I want non-pressurized baskets for better crema and flavor. Most machines this price range only come with pressurized. The second wand for hot water is another difference, and the heavy metal tamper is a nice touch.

I could be wrong, but it looks like a "kickstarter" type company. Their "about" page on their website states "BRIM INSPIRED BY COFFEE TRADITIONS SINCE 1961" Inspired by coffee traditions? I hope the engineering is as good as they hype. The best thing going for them is that Williams Sonoma and Costco carry their products.
Yeah, they got all the visible things right it would seem. It's certainly a slick looking machine. What's going on inside the machine though is the critical factor in making good espresso. I'm just not sure if the quality is there.

The Brim branding comes from an instant coffee from the 1960's famous for their "Fill it to the rim, with Brim" slogan. You're probably too young to remember their advertising, which was all over the airwaves back in the day. A company called Sensio acquired the brand in 2014. Their marketing is also reminiscent of what Breville does.
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Yeah, they got all the visible things right it would seem. It's certainly a slick looking machine. What's going on inside the machine though is the critical factor in making good espresso. I'm just not sure if the quality is there.

The Brim branding comes from an instant coffee from the 1960's famous for their "Fill it to the rim, with Brim" slogan. You're probably too young to remember their advertising, which was all over the airwaves back in the day. A company called Sensio acquired the brand in 2014. Their marketing is also reminiscent of what Breville does.
Ah yes, Brim coffee. I definitely remember it as I grew up in the 70's, but I was a kid and never had it. We were a "Maxwell House" house. My dad took a thermos of Maxwell House instant to work every day. Back then, people loved the convenience, and instant ruled. I just watched an old Brim commercial. Brim was "decaffeinated" ground coffee (they may have made instant too), hence, the memorable tagline. Being decaf, you don't have to stop at half a cup, you can "Fill it to the rim with Brim".

You'd have to wonder if they bought the rights to this name, or was it just available. It wasn't a gourmet brand so the name recognition wouldn't necessarily be helpful. I agree that as far as the machine's quality it's impossible to say since they are so new. It gets a lot of good reviews, but some negative. If someone says it doesn't make good espresso, but doesn't say why it's not very helpful. Maybe it's the machine, or maybe it's them.
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Ah yes, Brim coffee. I definitely remember it as I grew up in the 70's, but I was a kid and never had it. We were a "Maxwell House" house. My dad took a thermos of Maxwell House instant to work every day. Back then, people loved the convenience, and instant ruled. I just watched an old Brim commercial. Brim was "decaffeinated" ground coffee (they may have made instant too), hence, the memorable tagline. Being decaf, you don't have to stop at half a cup, you can "Fill it to the rim with Brim".

You'd have to wonder if they bought the rights to this name, or was it just available. It wasn't a gourmet brand so the name recognition wouldn't necessarily be helpful. I agree that as far as the machine's quality it's impossible to say since they are so new. It gets a lot of good reviews, but some negative. If someone says it doesn't make good espresso, but doesn't say why it's not very helpful. Maybe it's the machine, or maybe it's them.
You make some good points. Yeah, the reviews are all over the place. The impression I am getting is that people new to the world of espresso are enjoying the machine, but more experienced users are frustrated that they can't pull a decent shot with some nice crema.

I'm pretty sure they bought the brand. That way they can legitimately use the "Inspired by coffee traditions since 1961" line in their advertising. Sure, it's vague and obscures their instant coffee roots, but it's true!
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I just got the bambino plus yesterday. I am trying to figure out how to make strong espresso and also how to keep the milk frothy longer.
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If you want a really good shot out of the breville, make sure that the coffee beans are freshly roasted (30 days old max; the fresher the better)

Don't use light roast till you get more experienced. If you have the bariesta express, generally speaking grinder setting at 6 is going to be good.

Don't over tamp it.
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I just got the bambino plus yesterday. I am trying to figure out how to make strong espresso and also how to keep the milk frothy longer.
Cold whole milk is the easiest to work with.
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I just got the bambino plus yesterday. I am trying to figure out how to make strong espresso and also how to keep the milk frothy longer.
I wish you all the best in your espresso journey. My Bambino arrived yesterday. Unfortunately, it has a bad water leak. What a disaster.
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