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Sorry but this is a hard pass from me. Weak combo, weak discount, on top of a weak MSRP from Intel.
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Sorry but this is a hard pass from me. Weak combo, weak discount, on top of a weak MSRP from Intel.
Thanks to the free market of capitalism & to their competitor AMD, Intel have to be more competitive with their performance, quality & prices.
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About a 40 dollar discount if you were already going to buy these exact two parts but not super compelling for either part right now with the state of the market.
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About a 40 dollar discount if you were already going to buy these exact two parts but not super compelling for either part right now with the state of the market.
I'm a bit out of the loop. Whats the state of the market? 😅
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I'm a bit out of the loop. Whats the state of the market? 😅
Ryzen 3600 is a significantly better value at $199 and many other non-QLC (660p is QLC which is the lowest performance) 1TB NVMe SSD's have been going for around $100 so this package is not the best value that can be had. The devil is in the details of motherboard and memory selection but overall the smart money is elsewhere. Even if you end up spending $10-20 more it will be a much higher quality system. You can do cheaper and better if you shop around right now paying MSRP on the CPU and chase any SSD deal of the day.

For gaming, NVMe isn't as big of a deal and you could actually save money getting a 1TB SATA SSD and have equal performance while gaming and almost no noticeable difference in other tasks over this bottom tier NVMe SSD and slower overall CPU. The 9600k can have a slight (and I mean slight 1-5%) advantage in some games but it also comes with a laughable cooler vs AMD and has no upgrade path whereas AMD does. If you want to talk overclocking then you must factor in the cost of an aftermarket cooler for Intel which again reduces the value even more. Then also factor in the AMD CPU will receive performance optimizations just as previous gens did and that slight advantage even disappears while AMD offers a superior platform with PCI-E 4.0 etc.

The point is, this is not anything better than you could pay any day of the week, performance per dollar.
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Ryzen 3600 is a significantly better value at $199 and many other non-QLC (660p is QLC which is the lowest performance) 1TB NVMe SSD's have been going for around $100 so this package is not the best value that can be had. The devil is in the details of motherboard and memory selection but overall the smart money is elsewhere. Even if you end up spending $10-20 more it will be a much higher quality system. You can do cheaper and better if you shop around right now paying MSRP on the CPU and chase any SSD deal of the day.

For gaming, NVMe isn't as big of a deal and you could actually save money getting a 1TB SATA SSD and have equal performance while gaming and almost no noticeable difference in other tasks over this bottom tier NVMe SSD and slower overall CPU. The 9600k can have a slight (and I mean slight 1-5%) advantage in some games but it also comes with a laughable cooler vs AMD and has no upgrade path whereas AMD does. If you want to talk overclocking then you must factor in the cost of an aftermarket cooler for Intel which again reduces the value even more. Then also factor in the AMD CPU will receive performance optimizations just as previous gens did and that slight advantage even disappears while AMD offers a superior platform with PCI-E 4.0 etc.

The point is, this is not anything better than you could pay any day of the week, performance per dollar.
if 9600k and ryzen 3600 cost the same (I have a microcenter near by) in this case which would you recommend? Low noise is important to me, only occasionally play old games like dota2/WoW, using it for everyday task and some coding, and plan to dual boot windows/hackintosh

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if 9600k and ryzen 3600 cost the same (I have a microcenter near by) in this case which would you recommend? Low noise is important to me, only occasionally play old games like dota2/WoW, using it for everyday task and some coding, and plan to dual boot windows/hackintosh

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Ryzen 3600 hands down for your situation, on all points.

Quieter and cooler using included heatsinks and 3600 runs cooler overall (therefore even quieter using the same aftermarket cooler on both), it's much faster for productivity/non gaming use, and has shown to be much faster already in many older/eSports games, including WoW and DotA 2:

https://youtu.be/p_boEE1fynI
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Great now with this combo your pants are down. The processor and storage medium are compromised and the networking stack in the processor can upload all the files to the NSA. Cheers
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if 9600k and ryzen 3600 cost the same (I have a microcenter near by) in this case which would you recommend? Low noise is important to me, only occasionally play old games like dota2/WoW, using it for everyday task and some coding, and plan to dual boot windows/hackintosh

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I thought you needed Intel chip to mackintosh (admittedly been a while since I looked into it but I know that used to be a requirement... typing that made me do a quick google search and it looks possible to go AMD but you have to modify the kernel).

A quick scan of the MC near me and cpubenchmark, Ryzen 5 2600x is on par (benchmark-wise) with the 9600k and $60 cheaper, 3600 is a step up from either.
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Thanks to the free market of capitalism & to their competitor AMD, Intel have to be more competitive with their performance, quality & prices.
Wow, you mean capitalism & free markets aren't the devil? I was thinking we should go for socialism..maybe everyone can get a free cpu+SSD combo. Right? \kidding
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Ryzen 3600 is a significantly better value at $199 and many other non-QLC (660p is QLC which is the lowest performance) 1TB NVMe SSD's have been going for around $100 so this package is not the best value that can be had. The devil is in the details of motherboard and memory selection but overall the smart money is elsewhere. Even if you end up spending $10-20 more it will be a much higher quality system. You can do cheaper and better if you shop around right now paying MSRP on the CPU and chase any SSD deal of the day.

For gaming, NVMe isn't as big of a deal and you could actually save money getting a 1TB SATA SSD and have equal performance while gaming and almost no noticeable difference in other tasks over this bottom tier NVMe SSD and slower overall CPU. The 9600k can have a slight (and I mean slight 1-5%) advantage in some games but it also comes with a laughable cooler vs AMD and has no upgrade path whereas AMD does. If you want to talk overclocking then you must factor in the cost of an aftermarket cooler for Intel which again reduces the value even more. Then also factor in the AMD CPU will receive performance optimizations just as previous gens did and that slight advantage even disappears while AMD offers a superior platform with PCI-E 4.0 etc.

The point is, this is not anything better than you could pay any day of the week, performance per dollar.
I don't think you can realistically call the Ryzen 3600 a "significantly better value" when they're so close in price and perform so close to one another:
https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Com...4031vs4040
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if 9600k and ryzen 3600 cost the same (I have a microcenter near by) in this case which would you recommend? Low noise is important to me, only occasionally play old games like dota2/WoW, using it for everyday task and some coding, and plan to dual boot windows/hackintosh

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If it were me, I'd go for the 9600K. Performance is very comparable.. and drivers tend to suck less on Intel.

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A quick scan of the MC near me and cpubenchmark, Ryzen 5 2600x is on par (benchmark-wise) with the 9600k and $60 cheaper, 3600 is a step up from either.
Yeah, not really.. https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Com...4031vs3956 only in highly multithreaded loads which is largely irrelevant for games
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I don't think you can realistically call the Ryzen 3600 a "significantly better value" when they're so close in price and perform so close to one another:
https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Com...4031vs4040

If it were me, I'd go for the 9600K. Performance is very comparable.. and drivers tend to suck less on Intel.


Yeah, not really.. https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Com...4031vs3956 only in highly multithreaded loads which is largely irrelevant for games
https://linustechtips.com/main/to...e-results/

Userbenchmark just changed its comparison metric weighting, I wouldn't trust much of what they say as far as CPU comparisons are concerned since it's heavily weighed toward single core performance
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Can't beat 9400f for $135
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I'd much rather go this route to build the rest of a PC around if starting fresh

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ZcJQfH

https://www.anandtech.com/bench/p...56?vs=2250

They trade blows all up and down that list of benchmarks
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