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Delonghi Pinguino 4 in 1 portable AC with Heat pump further price reduction! 500 sq ft 12,500 btu Update Now $198! shipped $33 extended warranty available

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Price has dropped! Now $198, was $240 originally $400 at Costco! This is an all time low price and lowest price ever for a powerful 4 in 1 PAC with heat. In and out of stock. Check back. This is the updated '3A' Costco version for which I will share my personal experience. Model PAC EL275 HGRKC-3A

Value: Check out says "Item condition NEW". Sept 6 edit: Now $152 lower than Costco's spring sale @$350. 50% savings off Costco regular price of $400 with low cost option for extended warranty coverage with free home pick-up if required.
Powerful feature-packed unit for the price. Buyers generally say they have received
units which are in like-new condition.

Security: 90 days by Amazon + three years protection for $34 or four years for $45. Buy the extended warranty up to 30 days post-purchase. No deductibles, covers return shipping and from day of purchase covers accidental damage, drops spills. No need to lug back to warehouse or pay to ship back to Delonghi.
Buying the extended warranty means no dealing with time-wasters at Delonghi. Potentially improves resale value of unit. The standard Delonghi warranty is essentially useless.

Wiki: In the Wiki please find useful information which I have added including vent part numbers.

SPECIFICATIONS https://www.delonghi.com/en-us/pr...0151862201
Dimensions (l x w x h inches): 19.3 x 17.52 x 34.5
Weight (Lbs): 83.5 pounds
Color: White
Maximum sound power level dB(A): 53dbA
Condensate recycling system: Yes
Dehumidifying function: Yes
Fan speed: 3
Flange with cap: Yes
For rooms up to (sq ft): 500 sq
Handle: Yes
Hose diameter: 130 MM, 5.1 inches
Hose length: 4 ft
Maximum cooling capacity: 7.200 BTUs (DOE)
Only fan function: Yes
Refrigerant gas: R410A
Remote control: Yes
Single hole window bracket: Yes
Timer (min.): 12hr
Auto restart after power loss: resumes last mode

I have great things to say about this model along with a few cautions which should help you determine if this PAC is right for you.

The good:
Powerful. No draining required, automatically expels condensate through vent hose, no drips, no leaks ( in AC mode only ). 'Real Feal' mode increases comfort without over-cooling.
On-unit storage for the remote. Comes with a capped vent terminus for permanent floor or wall installation. If you are lucky enough to be able to down-vent then this greatly improves the cooling, aesthetic factor, security and convenience. The cabinet itself is sleek and more pleasing than many of the competition. Resumes operation in last set mode in the event of power interruption.

Quiet: At 53dbA max this is one of the quietest PACs. IN AC mode user may select three fan speeds. I found low speed to be very quiet. But fan speed increases automatically to medium when t-stat calls for cooling. No rattles or knocks. Did not notice compressor kick-in clunk which can be annoying on other PACs. Compressor kick-out has a thump. Experience will vary depending on room acoustics and variation among machines.

Venting options: through an exterior wall, a floor, a door panel, through an interior wall to a room with an open window such as a laundry room, up through a 5" or greater chimney such as a fireplace. If a small window pane can be removed and replaced then the small vent flange may be installed in a plexi glass pane increasing security and convenience. .

How it sucks: Single hose PAC's use conditioned air instead of outside air to pump the heat out of your home and to cool the
components. In other words they literally suck and because of that they are less energy
efficient than other more expensive or less convenient options. Nevertheless
PAC work very well for certain people and certain climates. Single hose
PAC's do not work unless
unless something is left open to replenish the air used for exhausting heat.
Failure to provision outside air is origin of many poor consumer ratings on all PAC except dual hose.
No point in rehashing this limitation in this thread.

More suck: This particular model has window vent kit plastic that breaks if you look at it sideways. The hose connector twist-locks on to the back of the unit and has a tendency to fall off unless it is modified which is not difficult. The 5" diameter hose is O.K. but a bit shorter than other brands at 4 feet end to end including the hose adapters. Can not be extended more than a few inches without compromising efficiency other than venting straight up through a chimney. The hose fittings are -not- hard to assemble at all except by folks who can not screw in a light bulb. Requires a bit of putty or tape at connections to prevent leaks.

FAN: Three fan speeds may be selected in AC and heat however the speed will increase periodically during operation. In dehumidify fan speed is fully automatic.

HEAT PUMP mode, unlike cooling mode, will require frequent manual draining.

Compared to DeLonghi N series: The smaller PAC N series model may be a better choice for some. I found the N270 to be a little easier to control with a nicer top located control panel which displays actual as well as set temperature and it has an LCD remote with room temperature display. My N270 does make more of an audible bang when the compressor kicks in compared to this EL series. N270 has no heat mode but it does display both set and actual room temperature which this EL model does not.

Amperage: The EL275 I received says 9.5 amps average current. Refer to you specific unit's label for amps as some versions use more.

Dehumidifies well in cooling mode. However, unlike a dedicated dehumidifier, PAC output air can be too cool. In fall and winter months will likely require frequent draining. In humid climates this draining might be once an hour.

My experience: 16 x 12 bedroom installation, installation with short hose length down-venting through closet floor. 1500 ft elevation , coastal central California, high humidity forested mountain area, full sun mid summer 9 am to 5 pm, 95 F or better day time temps, single level 2 BR older home with good insulation over bedrooms, dual pane windows, no insulation at all in cathedral ceiling part of home which is all but bedrooms and bath. This unit can chill the bedroom to 66 F in no time at all even with room door open when >90 outside. I always leave kitchen window open for vent air. This PAC makes the rest of home bearable when turned on in the morning. In the fall the heat pump worked great but unit shuts down when internal base drain pan is full after about 45 minutes. Can not connect a continuous drain tube per Delonghi because a minimal level of internal water is required to cool. Creative persons may be able to rig a drain solution. Does yield a nice dry heat and dehumidifies on damp days 40-65 F.

Is easy to roll room to room so one unit is capable of keeping this home cool and dry.

Buy recommendation depends on user's climate and installation requirements. Easier to recommend buying if you can down-vent or vent through the wall. Plan on needing a replacement window kit unless very careful not to move unit or remove-replace vent often. Or make your own window kit.


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Last Edited by timbertop September 11, 2019 at 12:29 PM
Now $198 shipped which is $42 cheaper than when this deal began.

Shows in cart "Item condition new" might want to take a screen shot before check out.

90 Day Amazon warranty makes it slick. Available extended 3 year warranty for only $34 makes it better.

Leave unit upright for 6 hours before plugging in! Label advises 24 hours.

Vent connections WILL require sealing. Putty can be easily remove but quick set bathroom calk and aluminum duct tape work too. Seal both connector to back of unit, hose to hose connectors. Throw away any included weather stripping and buy good stuff for the window kit

Youtube unboxing: https://youtu.be/I5Glpk7mLAA

Replacement part numbers for venting
Encompass has part numbers with pictures.
https://encompass.com/item/961158...gL7l_D_BwE

TL1854: Complete hose assembly with fittings pre-installed. $22. Has TL2667 fitted which twist-locks to back of EL27 series PAC

TL1857: Vent flange for floor or wall with cap

NE2002: A better vent flange with cap for floor or wall for the N270GN and with a slightly larger inside diameter. It will accommodate the vent hose terminus from the deal PAC plus many other models. part NE2002 or part 5351050600 https://encompass.com/item/961038...351050600/

N1370: exhaust hose adapter mates with NE2002 flange with tight fit if you prefer not to use the original which requires a layer of tape when used with this flange.

TL2667: Connector, hose to back of PAC. Bayonet connector, part TL2667. Important spare to have! $3.28
TL2667 hose connector is the only proprietary vent part specific to the deal EL PAC. If this bayonet hose connector breaks then you will not be able to use your PAC until you have obtained a replacement.

An extra vent flange with cap is handy if you want to use the PAC in another room which can accommodate floor or wall venting.

ASSEMBLY:
Connecting the hose to the back of the PAC should be the last step. Insert and rotate counter-clockwise until the PAC pins engage the TL2667 hose connector. It may require some force. After that try not to disturb the PAC or hose as it tends to pop off. Securing it with aluminum tape is best. This connection is disassembled at the end of the season so use a sealing solution that removes cleanly and easily. Putty or latex caulk is advised at the PAC connection and on the outside of the hose where it screws in to the connector to prevent air leakage. Wrapping with a light sheet of rubber secured with a strap also works.

DRAIN OUTLET:
Located on the rear close to the floor. 6 inches of silicone tubing slipped over the outlet with a plug makes draining far more convenient.

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Thanks for the detailed break down. I'm considering buying one for cooling my dog
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is this unit loud?

I bought one of these for $400 from Costco a couple of years ago. It was loud and drove me insane. I returned it after a few weeks. Then I started looking at other brands/models, but I guess most of these are noisy?
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Yes, these are loud and inefficient. They take indoor air that was cooled and blow it through the hot coils to the outside.
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is this unit loud?

I bought one of these for $400 from Costco a couple of years ago. It was loud and drove me insane. I returned it after a few weeks. Then I started looking at other brands/models, but I guess most of these are noisy?
Keep an eye out for the smaller N27 model as sold by Costco. I think its quiet for a PAC. I was able to lock it in low cool. At night the dehumidify mode keeps me cool enough. Down-venting through the floor if possible will reduce decibels due to shorter vent hose run.
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We have a Delonghi in our master bedroom (no, not to offset my deshorti). PAC CN120E or something like that. It was originally a band-aid until I figure out why it gets up to 85° in this room despite the rest of our house being 72°, but has become a permanent fixture because of my laziness and the white noise it provides.

Anyways, I'd recommend it if you don't mind or if you welcome the noise. Normally it is quieter than our last one (LG 14k BTU), but it has started an variable throttling sound when the compressor is running, much like a poorly-tuned engine at idle. I probably just need to clean the filter or empty the water or something.
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Anyone vent this into an attic space? I need cooling for a network closet / server room in my house and trying not to invest in a mini split. No window access in my closet either.
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I bought this yesterday and then realized the btu on it is 7200, which is not enough for 500 sq ft... I emailed amazon and woot sent me a ups sticker... will get it next week and try it before sending it back if it is not up to task. This is for my basement which is approx 400 sq ft
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I bought this from costco for around 300. Has lasted me 2 seasons thus far. It is pretty loud for a small bedroom but the noise is like white noise. Came with a 3 yr warranty, but if I knew delongi warranty was a PITA maybe I wouldn't have bought it. I learned these are less efficient, but honestly for a few hours before I go to bed when temperatures are above 80, it works fine. It also has a timer which is great because I can set it to turn off after temps drop and I'm asleep.
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Anyone vent this into an attic space? I need cooling for a network closet / server room in my house and trying not to invest in a mini split. No window access in my closet either.
Fair warning, these use SO much more energy than a mini-split. We had these up until last summer and they made the living room bearable. Decided to invest in a minisplit last august when we had bad monsoons and we were tired of spending so much on electric only to have it manageable. The mini split is AMAZING. keeps nearly the entire house comfortable and we are using 2/3 of the electricity of the portable AC. We paid for the mini split in energy savings this summer alone.

This is the unit we purchased: climateright cr12000sach You can usually get it under $1K from Home Depot or Amazon. It's super easy to install and no need for an AC tech.
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does this unit work like the rest of the single hose portable ac's? if so, then it might not be that good. you need a pair of hoses: one to pull fresh air in to cool, and one to remove the warm air out of the room. a single hose unit doesn't usually do that. the no-drain feature seems nice though.
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Thanks for the detailed break down. I'm considering buying one for cooling my dog
Do you have a hot dog?
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I had a single hose vent model prior to my current two hose. Not this model or brand. It was "self evaporating." However as discussed the climate where this is used matters. You may have descent odds of evaporating the condensate in Nevada (where it will create AND expel less moisture). But in the case of mine, which was located in Minnesota, I had to put a drip tank beneath the "overflow" and would fill up a couple gallons per night. All from a bedroom. Inefficient doesn't bother me, but it ends up taking a major cut into net cooling ability. The lowest pressure, even if you open a window somewhere else in the house, is still going to be the room with the a/c unit, so all of that warm air from elsewhere gets sucked into the room. If you have no other options and are on a budget, by all means, this is better than just a fan. However, take these cons into serious consideration if you're on the fence and or can pay more for two hose. Nice of the OP to take the time to explain the pros and cons, though, appreciate it.
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