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TL;DR, this won't be much different than a R7800 in speed for most clients, but the R7800 can be faster when using 3 or 4-stream clients or bridges. Compared to the vast majority of other WiFi 5 routers, it'll have a faster link rate if your client supports 160 MHz bandwidth. I'd wait for AX to mature and become widespread.

For connection to a single device, you'll need to look at the specific band (2.4 or 5 GHz) it's connecting to, and the number of streams supported, plus the channel bandwidth (20 MHz usually for 2.4GHz and 80 MHz for 5GHz). There is QAM modulation too but with WiFi 5 most devices are the same on 5GHz (256 QAM) AFAIK.

This dual band WiFi 6 router is 2-stream per band, and the max 5GHz channel bandwidth is 160 MHz. A 2-stream 80MHz link that's usual on WiFi 5 is 867 Mbps. This will give you a link of double that (1733 Mbps) if you have a compatible 160 MHz wireless device. The Intel AC 9260 laptop card can do that, and I assume the new AX cards can do that as well (though not checked myself).

But... the R7800 router, which is WiFi 5, can do 160 MHz bandwidth in 5 GHz as well, and also will link at 1733 Mbps on a compatible dual-stream client like the 9260 (I do that with my laptop). It also has 4 streams on AC, so it can also do a 1733 Mbps link rate at 80 Mhz with a 4-stream client, or a 1300 Mbps link with a 3-stream client or bridge (there are plenty of cheap 3-stream routers that can be used as bridges, like the T-mo Asus one).

Tri-band routers aren't really faster. They just have an extra 5GHz band which can help with congestion or if you wanna create a totally separate network, but I don't think it's necessary for most usages. You can also use them as a dedicated backhaul with some WiFi extenders so you don't halve your speed, this is exactly what Orbi does. Most if not all Tri-band routers are 3-stream per band at most (the best Orbi is 4-stream for the 5GHz backhaul, 2-stream for the 5GHz client-facing), I don't think I've seen a 4-stream Tri-band router.

Bear in mind that these are link rates, they are a theoretical maximum and nowhere near the real world speeds you'll get.

See more here: https://www.smallnetbuilder.com/w...1ax-router.
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Hold the line, AX prices will keep falling as more gear comes out.
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I found it very underwhelming especially with nothing really supporting AX speeds unless you buy an adapter. I could not get high speeds 500/500 from the Ethernet connection connected to my laptop or my consoles, which my old Linksys WRT1200AC actually comes closer to those speeds. The Wifi is so so but it takes a lot of tinkering to set it to those higher out speeds. I wouldn't recommend since the tech is new, and not much supports the high speeds as of yet.
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Thoughts on this anyone? Any good?
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How does this compare to the X6S AC3600 thats usually on sale for the same price at Costco?
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How does this compare to the X6S AC3600 thats usually on sale for the same price at Costco?
AX vs AC
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Finally an affordable AX router. This is just a start. Gotta hold on until thanksgiving.
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Hold the line, AX prices will keep falling as more gear comes out.
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Thoughts on this anyone? Any good?
I found it very underwhelming especially with nothing really supporting AX speeds unless you buy an adapter. I could not get high speeds 500/500 from the Ethernet connection connected to my laptop or my consoles, which my old Linksys WRT1200AC actually comes closer to those speeds. The Wifi is so so but it takes a lot of tinkering to set it to those higher out speeds. I wouldn't recommend since the tech is new, and not much supports the high speeds as of yet.
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Bought it a few months ago when it came out. Much better than the routers the ipS give. Anyway, good reception, for a 1-2 bedroom, great speeds.
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Is this dual band wifi 6 better than a tri band wifi 5, with mostly older wifi 5 devices?
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Is this dual band wifi 6 better than a tri band wifi 5, with mostly older wifi 5 devices?
Broader support for devices or faster speeds with more limited support. It's your choice.

Do you want a short but happy life or a long but arduous one?
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Is this dual band wifi 6 better than a tri band wifi 5, with mostly older wifi 5 devices?
TL;DR, this won't be much different than a R7800 in speed for most clients, but the R7800 can be faster when using 3 or 4-stream clients or bridges. Compared to the vast majority of other WiFi 5 routers, it'll have a faster link rate if your client supports 160 MHz bandwidth. I'd wait for AX to mature and become widespread.

For connection to a single device, you'll need to look at the specific band (2.4 or 5 GHz) it's connecting to, and the number of streams supported, plus the channel bandwidth (20 MHz usually for 2.4GHz and 80 MHz for 5GHz). There is QAM modulation too but with WiFi 5 most devices are the same on 5GHz (256 QAM) AFAIK.

This dual band WiFi 6 router is 2-stream per band, and the max 5GHz channel bandwidth is 160 MHz. A 2-stream 80MHz link that's usual on WiFi 5 is 867 Mbps. This will give you a link of double that (1733 Mbps) if you have a compatible 160 MHz wireless device. The Intel AC 9260 laptop card can do that, and I assume the new AX cards can do that as well (though not checked myself).

But... the R7800 router, which is WiFi 5, can do 160 MHz bandwidth in 5 GHz as well, and also will link at 1733 Mbps on a compatible dual-stream client like the 9260 (I do that with my laptop). It also has 4 streams on AC, so it can also do a 1733 Mbps link rate at 80 Mhz with a 4-stream client, or a 1300 Mbps link with a 3-stream client or bridge (there are plenty of cheap 3-stream routers that can be used as bridges, like the T-mo Asus one).

Tri-band routers aren't really faster. They just have an extra 5GHz band which can help with congestion or if you wanna create a totally separate network, but I don't think it's necessary for most usages. You can also use them as a dedicated backhaul with some WiFi extenders so you don't halve your speed, this is exactly what Orbi does. Most if not all Tri-band routers are 3-stream per band at most (the best Orbi is 4-stream for the 5GHz backhaul, 2-stream for the 5GHz client-facing), I don't think I've seen a 4-stream Tri-band router.

Bear in mind that these are link rates, they are a theoretical maximum and nowhere near the real world speeds you'll get.

See more here: https://www.smallnetbuilder.com/w...1ax-router.
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Op should put "WiFi 6"in the title and this thread will get more attention.
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I have a R7800, when should I be thinking of upgrading to WiFi 6?


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Much better price than the crazy $300 to $400 price that people on SD are happily paying.
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