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  • Intel Core i3-8130U Processor
  • 14" 1920x1080 IPS Display
  • 4GB DDR4 Memory
  • 128GB M.2 Solid State Drive
  • Intel UHD Graphics 620
  • 1x USB 3.1 Gen1 Type-C (Data Transfer Only)
  • 2x USB 3.1 Gen 1 (Data Transfer Only)
  • 1x HDMI 1.4b
  • 1x RJ-45
  • Backlit Keyboard
  • 3-cell 41WHr Battery
  • Windows 10

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Last Edited by CheaperMoFo September 10, 2019 at 01:09 PM
Specifications:
  • Product name: HP Notebook - 14-DF0023CL
  • Microprocessor: Intel® Core™ i3-8130U (2.2 GHz base frequency, up to 4 GHz with Intel® Turbo Boost Technology, 4 MB cache, 2 cores)
  • Memory: 4 GB DDR4-2400 SDRAM (1 x 4 GB)
  • Hard/SSD drive: 128 GB M.2 SATA SSD (Samsung MZNLN128HAHQ) - M.2 slot supports NVMe upgrade
  • Video graphics: Intel® UHD Graphics 620 Integrated
  • Display: 14" diagonal FHD IPS BrightView micro-edge WLED-backlit (1920 x 1080)
  • Keyboard: Full-size island-style BACKLIT keyboard
  • Pointing device: Touchpad with multi-touch gesture support
  • Wireless connectivity: 802.11b/g/n/ac (2x2) Wi-Fi® and Bluetooth® 4.2 combo
  • Network interface: Integrated 10/100/1000 GbE LAN
  • External ports: 1 USB 3.1 Type-C™ Gen 1 (Data Transfer up to 5 Gb/s); 2 USB 3.1 Gen 1 (Data transfer only); 1 HDMI 1.4b. 1 RJ-45; 1 headphone/microphone combo
  • Expansion slots: 1 multi-format SD media card reader
  • Audio features: Dual speakers
  • Power supply type: 45 W Smart AC adapter
  • Battery type: 3-cell, 41 Wh Li-ion
  • Product number: 5JV97UA
  • Minimum dimensions (W x D x H): 32.4 x 22.59 x 1.99 cm
  • Weight: 3.1 lbs
Note that similar models sold on Amazon and at Wal-wart reportedly lack the backlit keyboard.

Note that this wiki was imported from from the 132 page thread from Black Friday 2018. There are more details in that thread.

Maintenance and service guide showing internals
http://h10032.www1.hp.com/ctg/Man...tid=166580

Pics from DCheeseDanish showing two ram slots
https://slickdeals.net/forums/showpost.php?p=121739716&postcount=94
Max RAM supported: 16GB (2x8GB-2400) DDR4

3min video of the laptop made by SDUser rapdeals
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zmHJoN0c4mM

The other thread about this deal. Shorter and has some good info
https://slickdeals.net/f/12169396-costco-wholesale-black-friday-hp-14-df0023cl-14-laptop-intel-i3-8th-gen-4gb-ram-128gb-ssd-win-10-for-299-99?v=1

Memory chip used (2 slots, 1 used): https://www.samsung.com/semicondu...1a0a1c0e14

Crucial Memory Checker [crucial.com] Going in and out of stock

Can I buy this in the store?

YES

Can anyone find a compatible 4GB stick in stock?

Newegg Filter [newegg.com]

I found this @ NewEgg: https://www.newegg.com/Product/Pr...6820232163 Out of stock

If I want to replace the M.2 SSD, can I use an NVMe or does it have to be a SATA M.2 SSD?

Lots of debate about this. This is what we know:
- the laptop ships with an M2 SSD that is SATA
- The service manual MENTIONS NVMe drives, but it could be for a different model, so this does not guarantee that it would work.
- THIS post is by a SDealer who has successfully installed an NVMe M2

Can a 2nd drive be installed?
There is space inside the body of the computer for a sata drive to be installed. It can be seen in the maintenance guide and in photos posted by DCcheeseDanish.

There are HP parts required to possibly use a 2nd drive. There is a bracket and a cable to connect the drive to the sata connector. Part numbers are listed in the service manual and the part number for the cable is: L23187-001 The bracket is: L24490-001

If you go to http://partsurfer.hp.com/search.aspx and select the UK as your location, the cable can be ordered, but the cable does not seem to be available from HP in the US

There are many similar looking cables that can be found on Ebay or even Amazon if you search for terms like: HP 14 sata cable Some of these appear to be too short while others are really long.
First thread-confirmed installation of 2.5" HD from p4spooky
HDD Cable used: DW17 6017B0421501
This is the one p4spooky used successfully: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B06XKQ8T4Z/

BIOS RELATED QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS


I heard the CPU is throttled and only runs at 1.3 and not 2.2 GHz. What's the deal?

LINK TO GET BIOS UPDATE
Link for BIOS update instructions from HP: https://support.hp.com/us-en/document/c00042629

Some users have reported that running tests on the CPU shows it as being throttled constantly. It seems that this problem can be fixed with a BIOS update. See this post for info: https://slickdeals.net/forums/showpost.php?p=121988113&postcount=700

I can't get the BIOS to update using the HP Utility / When i try to update the BIOS, it tells me to reboot but nothing happens

From p4spooky:
Bios would not update running HP utility. Had to install UEFI diagnostics on HDD partition and then apply the BIOS upgrade from this tool (HIT F2 repeatedly to get to the diagnostics menu while the system is booting) Cool

Link to Tool: https://www8.hp.com/us/en/campaigns/hpsupportassistant/pc-diags.html [HP UEFI Diagnostics Tool]


If laptop fails to turn back on after HP utility Bios update: Holding down the power button does not fix it. The fan keeps coming on, and shutting off. You will need to remove the internal battery for a minute, while unplugged. This should fix the issue. But there might be some F or delete keys to try out that might resolve this first, before having to remove the battery??


What does updating the BIOS fix? What does it break?

One person said: I FIXED THE THROTTLING ISSUE. YOU MUST UPDATE THE BIOS AT SUPPORT.HP.COM

One person said: The bios update caused network issues for the machine I can't fix on either WiFi or Ethernet

However, another person replied to this: Is anyone getting network lag or timeout once a while? by saying the BIOS update fixed network problems I had the same issue. I updated the Bios (see wiki), and it connected much better afterward.

And a totally different person said: I find the issue I am seeing only happens on WiFi, only on battery, and only when using Bluetooth. Updating the bios did not help.

Most recently, this was posted: There was a driver update available for the Realtek RTL8822BE 802.11ac PCIe Adapter #2 in the device manager. The driver updated to version 2024.0.1.102, and helped with my latency issues. I still see the first packet normally fail, but the latency issues aren't as rampant as before.

Update 2/12/19 This user posted, at the suggestion of user gmdodt, that uninstalling the Realtek RTL8xxxx driver downloaded via Device Manager and installing the driver sourced directly from HP completely solved his dropout/latency issues.

One person said: While you're in the BIOS, you can also turn off the action keys so that you get all your F1 thru F12 keys back.

I heard the BIOS update makes it so you can't switch out of the "S" version anymore?

Multiple users have reported that they switched from Windows 10 S to the Home version and THEN did the BIOS update and were put back in Win10 S and couldn't switch out to the Home version again without reinstalling the OS first.

What is the easiest way to restore the OS if this happens?

If you haven't installed any additional software, you can do an HP factory restore which should bring it back to original setup state. Instructions in this post

If you update the BIOS before you switch from Win10 S to Win 10 Home, does that work?

Quote from svinokot
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I just updated BIOS via HP assistant utility and after restart it did not switch back to Windows S mode.

I did all windows updates though before updating the drivers. Maybe that's why.

This comes with Windows 10 S. How to I change to the Home version of windows.
What else can I do to eliminate software bloat?


Helpful posts from users are:
To switch out of S mode. Go to Settings, Update & Security, Activation and Switch to Windows 10 Home

Windows 10 has a "Fresh Start" feature already. It's a feature that removes 3rd party software. Its under Windows Security. (under Device Performance & Health)

So this will remove all HP drivers? If that's the case, will some functions (audio, video etc) of the laptop become disabled or distorted?

Save HP drivers and programs that you want to a USB drive: https://support.hp.com/us-en/drivers. Windows 10 will install drivers on its own -- you can install HP given drivers afterwards (just to play it safe if you're worried) and install whatever HP programs you want on there


The big issue I found is the WiFi connection is constantly dropped entirely using Bluetooth, battery power and Wifi at the same time. The adapter seemingly can't handle using both Bluetooth and WiFi at the same time on battery.


RAM QUESTIONS

What RAM should I get?!?!?!?


The thread is long and full of suggestions, responses, and backtracking. If you're not comfortable making the decision yourself, or figuring out what post is the best to listen to, Crucial memory has a RAM finder for you:
http://www.crucial.com/usa/en/com...4-df0023cl

Below is additional relevant info regarding the speed of the RAM:

Quote from RespectSlickyD
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So the memory is 2666 MHz according to:

https://www.samsung.com/semicondu...620a1c0e0d
Quote from NickN7069
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1.2v and CL19 2666 mhz 4 GB
Quote from woodlecj
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More details if anyone is interested.

Memory = Samsung (DDR4-2666 / PC4-21300)
Quote from 02nz
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The installed stick of RAM is capable of running at up to 2666, but the computer determines what speed to actually run it at. 2400 is all the chipset/processor support, per Intel: https://ark.intel.com/products/13...-3-40-GHz-

Bottom line, get DDR4-2400 or 2666 RAM, it doesn't matter. In either case it will run at 2400.
Quote from harle
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Are you absolutely certain? I only ask because the service guide says that it will only support 2400 dual channel. I wasn't sure if the laptop would automatically change it to 2400 if I bought 2666 ram.
Quote from 02nz
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Yes. You can run 2666 RAM at 2400, but not 2400 RAM at 2666 (at least not without stability issues).
Quote from 02nz
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Same size to run 100% in dual channel. If you mix say 4GB and 8GB, you'll get dual channel for 8GB out of the 12GB total.
HIGH DYNAMIC RANGE

Quote from HappyGorilla491
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FYI: Shockingly, this laptop's display supports HDR. Another nicety I would never expect at this price point, along with Windows Precision Touchpad. I do like that the machine came in S mode on account of that meaning the machine ships with near-zero bloat. Just UWP apps that can be uninstalled by right clicking on them.
Quote from HappyGorilla491
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In the Settings app. Open it and search 'HDR', select 'HDR color options', scroll down and select Windows HD Color settings. That page will tell you that the display supports HDR and let you turn on HDR.
Quote from WeakestG
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I did some test on YouTube 4k HDR videos and WOW the colors and black levels are much better than original factory settings. More darker with eye popping vivid color details.
Quote from speedbump47
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Here is the Windows 10 stance (seems like for laptops they've only started with the brightness and not the color improvements):
https://blogs.windows.com/windows...n-your-pc/

"2. Improving video on current generation built-in displays (i.e., laptops)

Currently, most laptop displays don't truly support HDR content, particularly when it comes to color (they do not have wider color gamuts nor higher color precision). Nevertheless, medium- to high-end models tend to have bright screens. We can combine these bright screens with the expanded range of brightness information available in HDR video formats so that Windows plays HDR video at its best for that display.

Playback quality of HDR content on these devices is noticeably better than the SDR version of the same content. This is particularly apparent in scenes where movie creators have mastered their content to fully exploit new HDR technologies.

While this update for built-in displays focused on the better brightness of HDR content, in the future we are working on bringing you better color. "

I know you said you've adjusted with some software, but in case this also aids you:
https://support.microsoft.com/en-...ay-for-hdr
Quote from WeakestG
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AOU // To test you need to use EDGE browser. Chrome and Firefox runs only at 720p even with netflix. So use Edge browers goes on 1080p/4k and then run Youtube 4K HDR.

Make sure you see (HDR) on youtube settings, otherwise it won't work.
Attached icc profile for the LG panel.Hope it's useful to some folks.
Link: http://s000.tinyupload.com/index....8406189786


HOW TO GET INTEL GRAPHICS CONTROL PANEL WORKING:
It allows you to make custom resolutions, adjust brightness, contrast, gamma, color(s), Video, 3D, gaming profiles, and power plans. Only the drivers from Intel's site will work.
See post # 1871 https://slickdeals.net/f/12270274-costco-members-hp-14-laptop-i3-8130u-4gb-ddr4-128gb-ssd-315?page=125#comments

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Costco will probably have this laptop for $249 by end of this year. Saw too many in stock when it was on sale for $299 at the end of August. People were not buying it.
no, trump tax will make it more expensive
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4 GB RAM is very limiting these days for day to day use, hence they paired it with Windows in S mode. Otherwise if we start running desktop apps, the memory will run out, and Windows will slow to a crawl. Shame on MS to pull the same trick as when they try to run Windows 7 in 4 GM RAM and 32 GB eMMC in those CPU-in-a-stick.
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4 GB RAM is very limiting these days for day to day use, hence they paired it with Windows in S mode. Otherwise if we start running desktop apps, the memory will run out, and Windows will slow to a crawl. Shame on MS to pull the same trick as when they try to run Windows 7 in 4 GM RAM and 32 GB eMMC in those CPU-in-a-stick.
Yeah I'm surprised that in 2019, in a mid-range-ish system of any kind, that we're still getting 4GB, especially if they cripple the OS to do it. Computers were coming with 4GB ten years ago.
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Yeah I'm surprised that in 2019, in a mid-range-ish system of any kind, that we're still getting 4GB, especially if they cripple the OS to do it. Computers were coming with 4GB ten years ago.
Surprised seeing these complains about 4 GB RAM. First of all it is quite a lot for regular school/office work and second it is easily upgredable. without having to pay pre-installed premium. For only $18 another 4 GB stick puts you in 400+ laptop segment.

​Also, 10 years ago to get IPS FHD screen and illuminated keyboard you spent 600 minimum.
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Surprised seeing these complains about 4 GB RAM. First of all it is quite a lot for regular school/office work and second it is easily upgredable. without having to pay pre-installed premium. For only $18 another 4 GB stick puts you in 400+ laptop segment.

​Also, 10 years ago to get IPS FHD screen and illuminated keyboard you spent 600 minimum.
Will upgrading it allow you to run x86/x64 applications on it?
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Will upgrading it allow you to run x86/x64 applications on it?
You can run them without upgrading, even on 1 GB RAM or less LOL
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Staples has same spec but newer i3-8145u chipset for $299 and $50 off coupon = $249.

https://www.staples.com/hp-14-cf1...t_24393903
Not same spec. Lower res screen in that one
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You too!!!?? I have been having similar power related issues, sometimes it would randomly restart, or not even turn on even with full battery.
Thought it was just me but I've also had it not turn on a couple of times when I'm fairly certain it still had a decent amount of battery life left. Other than that, it's great bang for the buck if you want to be under a certain price and don't mind doing some upgrades yourself (See the old thread for instructions).
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I bought one of these during the last sale. Amazing laptop for the price, if you are planning to just surf web, light office work and watch netflix etc, its perfect. FullHD screen and backlit keyboard at this price range is very rate, and its pretty light too. 4GB RAM is a bit less but frankly I didn't feel any slowdown, probably thanks for SSD, you don't actually feel swap life access. Converting S to Home is also very easy. Battery life is not amazing but lasts few hours, enough to last me though the day of intermittent use, serf web, watch some Netflix etc.

Now for the downside, bloatware of course, McAfee keeps poking its head out every now and then even after uninstall. Very difficult to reach the RAM and SSD if you plan on upgrading, from Youtube videos it looks risky, can easily break some notches or the cover itself or damage something, not built for easy upgrade.

Overall very satisfied, would give it 5 start
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I bought one of these during the last sale. Amazing laptop for the price, if you are planning to just surf web, light office work and watch netflix etc, its perfect. FullHD screen and backlit keyboard at this price range is very rate, and its pretty light too. 4GB RAM is a bit less but frankly I didn't feel any slowdown, probably thanks for SSD, you don't actually feel swap life access. Converting S to Home is also very easy. Battery life is not amazing but lasts few hours, enough to last me though the day of intermittent use, serf web, watch some Netflix etc.

Now for the downside, bloatware of course, McAfee keeps poking its head out every now and then even after uninstall. Very difficult to reach the RAM and SSD if you plan on upgrading, from Youtube videos it looks risky, can easily break some notches or the cover itself or damage something, not built for easy upgrade.

Overall very satisfied, would give it 5 start
Yes, I can attest that the case is fragile. I upgraded mine to 16GB RAM and a 500GB NVMe drive.

As for the bloat, just download the media creation tool from MS and reinstall. The license is held in the BIOS and the install will see the license.
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Yes, I can attest that the case is fragile. I upgraded mine to 16GB RAM and a 500GB NVMe drive.

As for the bloat, just download the media creation tool from MS and reinstall. The license is held in the BIOS and the install will see the license.
Oh! I was actually wondering about that, so it is possible? I though HP (and other vendors) lock it down where base install downloaded from MS site does not work with the license, can you confirm that's not the case? If so, which version did you chose during install? S or Home?
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Oh! I was actually wondering about that, so it is possible? I though HP (and other vendors) lock it down where base install downloaded from MS site does not work with the license, can you confirm that's not the case? If so, which version did you chose during install? S or Home?
I installed Windows 10 Home after doing the free conversion from 10S.
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Just my experience but this exact laptop bought at the same price last Black Friday from Costco is going back to HP for repairs this week as it won't turn on despite being connected to a working power adapter and they will try to upsell you on shipping times and extra warranty. I gotta say I'm disappointed
Since we're sharing anecdotal experience, I bought two of these around Black Friday last year. They've been running with no issues (one stock, one upgraded to 8GB ram). Great buy at $299!
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Because Cali charges tax, Like A Boss!
I lucked out - have a friend visiting from Delaware next week so had it delivered to her. She will bring it out to me to avoid all the crap fees and taxes CA charges
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I just reposted one of the old deal thread wiki's to the wiki on the first page of this deal.

I own this computer and like it at this price point. HP makes many models using the same 14" case with same # of ports; this is the best one in the lower price ranges because (1) the Full HD 1080p screen; (2) the backlit keyboard; (3) a good processor. Plus it is backed by Costco extended warranty and has a small and lightweight form factor (14"/3lbs). Cheaper models lack some or all of these, and in some cases the motherboard uses cheap, slow and non-upgradeable eMMC SSDs. Avoid those; one the chief reasons to buy this IMO is to upgrade to a superfast NVMe drive at your convenience.

My only criticisms of this model--(1) the case is plasticy and and not very stiff in back of the display and (2) I experienced wifi dropouts that were due to poor assembly--when I opened it up one of the antenna wires was pinched inside the plastic sides. For the price I can live with those.

Upgrading: WIndows S to Windows Home is an easy and free upgrade. I think upgrading the RAM is crucial; I also upgraded the SSD and wifi so I can have a souped up lightweight machine. You can also add a SATA 2.5" drive if you buy the right HP cable.

Personally I spent $35 to add 8GB of RAM (12GB total), upgraded to a $15 Intel 9260 Wifi card with bluetooth 5, and splurged ($100) on a superfast 1TB NVMe SSD stick (more space than I need now, but that was the best deal).

Ridiculous bargain for the $450ish I've got into it. I expect I'll use it for years.

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what ram should i bought if i will upgrade it?
DDR4-2400 SDRAM (PC4-19200) in the capacity(ies), brand of your choice. It has 2 RAM slots. One is filled with a 4GB stick. Check wiki post for details.

You could max it out at up to 32GB if you replaced the 4GB and added 2 16GB sticks. If you mismatch sizes (e.g. add a 8GB like I did), only the first extra 4GB runs (in slightly faster) dual channel mode. I have noticed no problem with speeds when adding unmatched (for size) RAM.

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How does it compare to Ryzen 5 processor with similar specs.
Laptop Ryzen 5 is reportedly comparable but benches a little slower than 8th gen i3 8130 (will vary by task). The Ryzen 5 should have much better integrated graphics, but the Intel 620 is not as bad as previous generations. Pretty comparable overall.

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Anyone know how long the battery lasts for word processing?
I mostly use if for word, excel & browsing, plus a little coding. I get 6-8 hours, less if I do a lot more browsing. But mine is not stock.
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