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  • Intel Core i3-8130U Processor
  • 14" 1920x1080 IPS Display
  • 4GB DDR4 Memory
  • 128GB M.2 Solid State Drive
  • Intel UHD Graphics 620
  • 1x USB 3.1 Gen1 Type-C (Data Transfer Only)
  • 2x USB 3.1 Gen 1 (Data Transfer Only)
  • 1x HDMI 1.4b
  • 1x RJ-45
  • Backlit Keyboard
  • 3-cell 41WHr Battery
  • Windows 10

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Last Edited by CheaperMoFo September 10, 2019 at 01:09 PM
Specifications:
  • Product name: HP Notebook - 14-DF0023CL
  • Microprocessor: Intel® Core™ i3-8130U (2.2 GHz base frequency, up to 4 GHz with Intel® Turbo Boost Technology, 4 MB cache, 2 cores)
  • Memory: 4 GB DDR4-2400 SDRAM (1 x 4 GB)
  • Hard/SSD drive: 128 GB M.2 SATA SSD (Samsung MZNLN128HAHQ) - M.2 slot supports NVMe upgrade
  • Video graphics: Intel® UHD Graphics 620 Integrated
  • Display: 14" diagonal FHD IPS BrightView micro-edge WLED-backlit (1920 x 1080)
  • Keyboard: Full-size island-style BACKLIT keyboard
  • Pointing device: Touchpad with multi-touch gesture support
  • Wireless connectivity: 802.11b/g/n/ac (2x2) Wi-Fi® and Bluetooth® 4.2 combo
  • Network interface: Integrated 10/100/1000 GbE LAN
  • External ports: 1 USB 3.1 Type-C™ Gen 1 (Data Transfer up to 5 Gb/s); 2 USB 3.1 Gen 1 (Data transfer only); 1 HDMI 1.4b. 1 RJ-45; 1 headphone/microphone combo
  • Expansion slots: 1 multi-format SD media card reader
  • Audio features: Dual speakers
  • Power supply type: 45 W Smart AC adapter
  • Battery type: 3-cell, 41 Wh Li-ion
  • Product number: 5JV97UA
  • Minimum dimensions (W x D x H): 32.4 x 22.59 x 1.99 cm
  • Weight: 3.1 lbs
Note that similar models sold on Amazon and at Wal-wart reportedly lack the backlit keyboard.

Note that this wiki was imported from from the 132 page thread from Black Friday 2018. There are more details in that thread.

Maintenance and service guide showing internals
http://h10032.www1.hp.com/ctg/Man...tid=166580

Pics from DCheeseDanish showing two ram slots
https://slickdeals.net/forums/showpost.php?p=121739716&postcount=94
Max RAM supported: 16GB (2x8GB-2400) DDR4

3min video of the laptop made by SDUser rapdeals
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zmHJoN0c4mM

The other thread about this deal. Shorter and has some good info
https://slickdeals.net/f/12169396-costco-wholesale-black-friday-hp-14-df0023cl-14-laptop-intel-i3-8th-gen-4gb-ram-128gb-ssd-win-10-for-299-99?v=1

Memory chip used (2 slots, 1 used): https://www.samsung.com/semicondu...1a0a1c0e14

Crucial Memory Checker [crucial.com] Going in and out of stock

Can I buy this in the store?

YES

Can anyone find a compatible 4GB stick in stock?

Newegg Filter [newegg.com]

I found this @ NewEgg: https://www.newegg.com/Product/Pr...6820232163 Out of stock

If I want to replace the M.2 SSD, can I use an NVMe or does it have to be a SATA M.2 SSD?

Lots of debate about this. This is what we know:
- the laptop ships with an M2 SSD that is SATA
- The service manual MENTIONS NVMe drives, but it could be for a different model, so this does not guarantee that it would work.
- THIS post is by a SDealer who has successfully installed an NVMe M2

Can a 2nd drive be installed?
There is space inside the body of the computer for a sata drive to be installed. It can be seen in the maintenance guide and in photos posted by DCcheeseDanish.

There are HP parts required to possibly use a 2nd drive. There is a bracket and a cable to connect the drive to the sata connector. Part numbers are listed in the service manual and the part number for the cable is: L23187-001 The bracket is: L24490-001

If you go to http://partsurfer.hp.com/search.aspx and select the UK as your location, the cable can be ordered, but the cable does not seem to be available from HP in the US

There are many similar looking cables that can be found on Ebay or even Amazon if you search for terms like: HP 14 sata cable Some of these appear to be too short while others are really long.
First thread-confirmed installation of 2.5" HD from p4spooky
HDD Cable used: DW17 6017B0421501
This is the one p4spooky used successfully: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B06XKQ8T4Z/

BIOS RELATED QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS


I heard the CPU is throttled and only runs at 1.3 and not 2.2 GHz. What's the deal?

LINK TO GET BIOS UPDATE
Link for BIOS update instructions from HP: https://support.hp.com/us-en/document/c00042629

Some users have reported that running tests on the CPU shows it as being throttled constantly. It seems that this problem can be fixed with a BIOS update. See this post for info: https://slickdeals.net/forums/showpost.php?p=121988113&postcount=700

I can't get the BIOS to update using the HP Utility / When i try to update the BIOS, it tells me to reboot but nothing happens

From p4spooky:
Bios would not update running HP utility. Had to install UEFI diagnostics on HDD partition and then apply the BIOS upgrade from this tool (HIT F2 repeatedly to get to the diagnostics menu while the system is booting) Cool

Link to Tool: https://www8.hp.com/us/en/campaigns/hpsupportassistant/pc-diags.html [HP UEFI Diagnostics Tool]


If laptop fails to turn back on after HP utility Bios update: Holding down the power button does not fix it. The fan keeps coming on, and shutting off. You will need to remove the internal battery for a minute, while unplugged. This should fix the issue. But there might be some F or delete keys to try out that might resolve this first, before having to remove the battery??


What does updating the BIOS fix? What does it break?

One person said: I FIXED THE THROTTLING ISSUE. YOU MUST UPDATE THE BIOS AT SUPPORT.HP.COM

One person said: The bios update caused network issues for the machine I can't fix on either WiFi or Ethernet

However, another person replied to this: Is anyone getting network lag or timeout once a while? by saying the BIOS update fixed network problems I had the same issue. I updated the Bios (see wiki), and it connected much better afterward.

And a totally different person said: I find the issue I am seeing only happens on WiFi, only on battery, and only when using Bluetooth. Updating the bios did not help.

Most recently, this was posted: There was a driver update available for the Realtek RTL8822BE 802.11ac PCIe Adapter #2 in the device manager. The driver updated to version 2024.0.1.102, and helped with my latency issues. I still see the first packet normally fail, but the latency issues aren't as rampant as before.

Update 2/12/19 This user posted, at the suggestion of user gmdodt, that uninstalling the Realtek RTL8xxxx driver downloaded via Device Manager and installing the driver sourced directly from HP completely solved his dropout/latency issues.

One person said: While you're in the BIOS, you can also turn off the action keys so that you get all your F1 thru F12 keys back.

I heard the BIOS update makes it so you can't switch out of the "S" version anymore?

Multiple users have reported that they switched from Windows 10 S to the Home version and THEN did the BIOS update and were put back in Win10 S and couldn't switch out to the Home version again without reinstalling the OS first.

What is the easiest way to restore the OS if this happens?

If you haven't installed any additional software, you can do an HP factory restore which should bring it back to original setup state. Instructions in this post

If you update the BIOS before you switch from Win10 S to Win 10 Home, does that work?

Quote from svinokot
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I just updated BIOS via HP assistant utility and after restart it did not switch back to Windows S mode.

I did all windows updates though before updating the drivers. Maybe that's why.

This comes with Windows 10 S. How to I change to the Home version of windows.
What else can I do to eliminate software bloat?


Helpful posts from users are:
To switch out of S mode. Go to Settings, Update & Security, Activation and Switch to Windows 10 Home

Windows 10 has a "Fresh Start" feature already. It's a feature that removes 3rd party software. Its under Windows Security. (under Device Performance & Health)

So this will remove all HP drivers? If that's the case, will some functions (audio, video etc) of the laptop become disabled or distorted?

Save HP drivers and programs that you want to a USB drive: https://support.hp.com/us-en/drivers. Windows 10 will install drivers on its own -- you can install HP given drivers afterwards (just to play it safe if you're worried) and install whatever HP programs you want on there


The big issue I found is the WiFi connection is constantly dropped entirely using Bluetooth, battery power and Wifi at the same time. The adapter seemingly can't handle using both Bluetooth and WiFi at the same time on battery.


RAM QUESTIONS

What RAM should I get?!?!?!?


The thread is long and full of suggestions, responses, and backtracking. If you're not comfortable making the decision yourself, or figuring out what post is the best to listen to, Crucial memory has a RAM finder for you:
http://www.crucial.com/usa/en/com...4-df0023cl

Below is additional relevant info regarding the speed of the RAM:

Quote from RespectSlickyD
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So the memory is 2666 MHz according to:

https://www.samsung.com/semicondu...620a1c0e0d
Quote from NickN7069
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1.2v and CL19 2666 mhz 4 GB
Quote from woodlecj
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More details if anyone is interested.

Memory = Samsung (DDR4-2666 / PC4-21300)
Quote from 02nz
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The installed stick of RAM is capable of running at up to 2666, but the computer determines what speed to actually run it at. 2400 is all the chipset/processor support, per Intel: https://ark.intel.com/products/13...-3-40-GHz-

Bottom line, get DDR4-2400 or 2666 RAM, it doesn't matter. In either case it will run at 2400.
Quote from harle
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Are you absolutely certain? I only ask because the service guide says that it will only support 2400 dual channel. I wasn't sure if the laptop would automatically change it to 2400 if I bought 2666 ram.
Quote from 02nz
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Yes. You can run 2666 RAM at 2400, but not 2400 RAM at 2666 (at least not without stability issues).
Quote from 02nz
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Same size to run 100% in dual channel. If you mix say 4GB and 8GB, you'll get dual channel for 8GB out of the 12GB total.
HIGH DYNAMIC RANGE

Quote from HappyGorilla491
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FYI: Shockingly, this laptop's display supports HDR. Another nicety I would never expect at this price point, along with Windows Precision Touchpad. I do like that the machine came in S mode on account of that meaning the machine ships with near-zero bloat. Just UWP apps that can be uninstalled by right clicking on them.
Quote from HappyGorilla491
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In the Settings app. Open it and search 'HDR', select 'HDR color options', scroll down and select Windows HD Color settings. That page will tell you that the display supports HDR and let you turn on HDR.
Quote from WeakestG
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I did some test on YouTube 4k HDR videos and WOW the colors and black levels are much better than original factory settings. More darker with eye popping vivid color details.
Quote from speedbump47
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Here is the Windows 10 stance (seems like for laptops they've only started with the brightness and not the color improvements):
https://blogs.windows.com/windows...n-your-pc/

"2. Improving video on current generation built-in displays (i.e., laptops)

Currently, most laptop displays don't truly support HDR content, particularly when it comes to color (they do not have wider color gamuts nor higher color precision). Nevertheless, medium- to high-end models tend to have bright screens. We can combine these bright screens with the expanded range of brightness information available in HDR video formats so that Windows plays HDR video at its best for that display.

Playback quality of HDR content on these devices is noticeably better than the SDR version of the same content. This is particularly apparent in scenes where movie creators have mastered their content to fully exploit new HDR technologies.

While this update for built-in displays focused on the better brightness of HDR content, in the future we are working on bringing you better color. "

I know you said you've adjusted with some software, but in case this also aids you:
https://support.microsoft.com/en-...ay-for-hdr
Quote from WeakestG
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AOU // To test you need to use EDGE browser. Chrome and Firefox runs only at 720p even with netflix. So use Edge browers goes on 1080p/4k and then run Youtube 4K HDR.

Make sure you see (HDR) on youtube settings, otherwise it won't work.
Attached icc profile for the LG panel.Hope it's useful to some folks.
Link: http://s000.tinyupload.com/index....8406189786


HOW TO GET INTEL GRAPHICS CONTROL PANEL WORKING:
It allows you to make custom resolutions, adjust brightness, contrast, gamma, color(s), Video, 3D, gaming profiles, and power plans. Only the drivers from Intel's site will work.
See post # 1871 https://slickdeals.net/f/12270274-costco-members-hp-14-laptop-i3-8130u-4gb-ddr4-128gb-ssd-315?page=125#comments

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Got this laptop a few weeks ago but only now opened it up for upgrades. A few points I observed:

1) The SATA bay can take a 9.5mm 2.5" drive, including mechanical hard disks.

2) The M.2 slot is confirmed to be nvme-compatible.

3) I didn't upgrade the wireless card but I noticed the wifi antennas were attached wrongly (wire "1" was attached to port "2" on the card and vice-versa). Some users have mentioned this happened for them too. I switched the wires over just in case and have not observed any wifi disconnects before or after the switch.
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I bought 16 GB RAM to upgrade computer but after watching YOUTUBE video, it makes me nervous to take the thin plastic back off. Any suggestions for a similarly priced computer that either has 8 gb or easy to upgrade RAM?
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It was available in store in Norwalk,CT for the same price and I picked it up today. Saved on shipping
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Out of the box, the wifi was great. But I installed a fresh copy of Win10 Home after leaving S mode and doing a BIOS update, and now the Wifi speed tests I'm doing are getting 3.0 mbps, when I pay for 30 mbps. Ethernet is fast, only wifi is slow. Bluetooth is off, power is plugged in. I feel like there were some files related to wireless connectivity that were in the start menu or the add/remove programs that aren't there anymore, but I don't recall what they were. Might drive down to Costco tomorrow and check the display model. If I can't get the wifi back to high performance, I'm gonna return this laptop.

I've tried Windows update's drivers, and HP's website's latest drivers (2024.0.9.103/2024.0.4.108 Rev.S)

EDIT: Looks like it was just my shitty modem/router combo. Wifi's doing well. In fact, the wifi capabilities are insane. I was at an expo and connected to a 5 ghtz signal about 250 ft away, in a room with probably 30 other routers, and I was getting 100mbps. This is with the stock card, running the latest driver from HP website. The Windows Update and the HP Assistant both did not auto-install the latest driver. I had to hunt it down. But yeah, it's awesome. I don't see ANY need to update the wifi hardware, but it's good to know that the option to do so exists. The upgradability is a big reason why I bought this laptop. I plan on adding more RAM and a second drive for storage, but I'm going to see what Black Friday has to offer, since Costco has a 90 day return policy.
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I bought 16 GB RAM to upgrade computer but after watching YOUTUBE video, it makes me nervous to take the thin plastic back off. Any suggestions for a similarly priced computer that either has 8 gb or easy to upgrade RAM?
I upgraded to 16GB and thought it was pretty easy. I don't think it's going to get easier than this. 6 screws and just pry the back open using a flat head screwdriver. The back is thin but pretty flexible so I don't think you can accidentally break it.
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For the price, this is a great deal. I bought it last year around Black Friday for the same price. However, I will say this laptop isn't the most durable and there are issues with the Wi-Fi even when I did the uninstall and download from HP website method. I bought an Intel Wi-Fi card that's much better and will be installing that once I decide not to procrastinate. The other problem is that the lid flexes a lot, so be careful when opening or closing your laptop. You could bend the screen and damage it. I had to send it in for repairs because of that, but thankfully they covered it. I also suggest upgrading RAM. 4gb is OK, but you will start to experience some lag pretty quickly.

Overall cost for some optional extra upgrades: $10-12 (Intel wi-fi/bluetooth) + $25 (4gb RAM) + $50 (crucial 500gb m2 sata drive) = $85
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I upgraded to 16GB and thought it was pretty easy. I don't think it's going to get easier than this. 6 screws and just pry the back open using a flat head screwdriver. The back is thin but pretty flexible so I don't think you can accidentally break it.
Judging by the repair manual, you had to remove the rubber feet. You feel confident about using the same adhesive when putting the screws and feet back?
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Judging by the repair manual, you had to remove the rubber feet. You feel confident about using the same adhesive when putting the screws and feet back?
If you only peel it off once there should still be enough adhesive left on to put it back securely. Did my upgrades no problem without extra adhesives.
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I bought 16 GB RAM to upgrade computer but after watching YOUTUBE video, it makes me nervous to take the thin plastic back off. Any suggestions for a similarly priced computer that either has 8 gb or easy to upgrade RAM?
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I upgraded to 16GB and thought it was pretty easy. I don't think it's going to get easier than this. 6 screws and just pry the back open using a flat head screwdriver. The back is thin but pretty flexible so I don't think you can accidentally break it.
Tricky but easy to do. I recommend using a thick old credit card or two rather than a flathead screwdriver to reduce scratch potential. Plastic spudgers work great too if you have them.

Work the cards slowly along each crevice and it will pop apart. Once you know where the catches are, it's easy to a second time.
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Got a question for those who have this laptop.

I can stream and watch a x265 4k movie from another computer fine, but when I stream AND cast (both wirelessly) the movie onto a tv, there's loading issues every few mins making the movie unwatchable. Can this be remedied by adding extra ram or is the cpu/gpu too weak to handle both processes simultaneously? TV, laptop and movies are on the same wireless network so I doubt it's network congestion.
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Got a question for those who have this laptop.

I can stream and watch a x265 4k movie from another computer fine, but when I stream AND cast (both wirelessly) the movie onto a tv, there's loading issues every few mins making the movie unwatchable. Can this be remedied by adding extra ram or is the cpu/gpu too weak to handle both processes simultaneously? TV, laptop and movies are on the same wireless network so I doubt it's network congestion.
Yeah, something in there is bottlenecking. So just to be clear, the movie you have is not saved on the HP, and not showing on the HP? The HP is being used to deliver content from a Media Server (such as a NAS) to a streaming device such as a chromecast? It could be a huge number of things. Could be RAM. Could be GPU. How large is the file? What's the bitrate? If you send it thru Handbrake at a lower bitrate, does performance improve? What if you keep the file on the HP? Also, HP's website has a driver version that the HP software and Windows update both won't fetch automatically. Try making sure you're up to date there.
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Yeah, something in there is bottlenecking. So just to be clear, the movie you have is not saved on the HP, and not showing on the HP? The HP is being used to deliver content from a Media Server (such as a NAS) to a streaming device such as a chromecast? It could be a huge number of things. Could be RAM. Could be GPU. How large is the file? What's the bitrate? If you send it thru Handbrake at a lower bitrate, does performance improve? What if you keep the file on the HP? Also, HP's website has a driver version that the HP software and Windows update both won't fetch automatically. Try making sure you're up to date there.
Movies are on a usb hdd attached to a desktop computer. When I stream and watch on the HP laptop everything runs smoothly.

My TCL tv can wirelessly mirror the HP laptop's screen, there's a button (F4) on the laptop that casts to any wireless screen that accepts the signal.

It's when I stream from the desktop hdd to the laptop, then cast to the tv, that makes the movies stutter.

Movies are between 6-20gb, bitrate varies between movies but they're probably 2,500+ kbps.

I've never used Handbrake, does it re-encode 'on the fly' while I'm watching the vid?

Is the i3-8130u cpu single or multi-threaded? I'm gonna dl Rainmeter and run it while streaming + casting to see if the ram or cpu/gpu are being maxed out 100%, I'll let you know the results!
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For the price, this is a great deal. I bought it last year around Black Friday for the same price. However, I will say this laptop isn't the most durable and there are issues with the Wi-Fi even when I did the uninstall and download from HP website method. I bought an Intel Wi-Fi card that's much better and will be installing that once I decide not to procrastinate. The other problem is that the lid flexes a lot, so be careful when opening or closing your laptop. You could bend the screen and damage it. I had to send it in for repairs because of that, but thankfully they covered it. I also suggest upgrading RAM. 4gb is OK, but you will start to experience some lag pretty quickly.

Overall cost for some optional extra upgrades: $10-12 (Intel wi-fi/bluetooth) + $25 (4gb RAM) + $50 (crucial 500gb m2 sata drive) = $85
which wifi module did u purchase ?
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Is the i3 on this fast enough for everyday use ? no gaming. just apps and browsing.
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i looked at this instore today

the price had the * meaning they were clearing it out and it could be out of store any day

Could someone who has been using one of these comment on the screen brightness? The demo model was password locked but the screen seemed a little dim...

i didn't see the nit info posted but maybe i missed it

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