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give it up dude, you don't know what you're talking about.

Laptops between different manufacturers routinely have 10-25% difference in performance due to power and dissipation limit.

anytime 2 mobile gpu fall within 20% of one another, they're considered more/less the same, depending on which chassis they go into.

1060 1660ti 2060 are all more/less the same due to this phenomenon.

notebookcheck stats can not be used the way you're using it, because they don't test that many notebook variants when they make the charts.
I think you need to give up, as you're not bringing any evidence to the argument other than your own voice, which is like a fart in the wind. There are multiple sites that refute what you're saying (here's another [rockpapershotgun.com]).

ASSUMING, there's a 10-25% difference (and 25% is a pretty wild assumption) some of the framerates are improved by over 45%, which would still be a 20% improvement. Sure, the 1660ti and 2060 are close is performance, but you claimed that the 1060 and 2060 are the same, you embarrassed yourself.
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On mobile, 2060, 1660ti, 1060 All perform very similarly IN GAME, because they run up against the power limit.

When you apply ~150-200 watt power limit to any laptop with these cards, they perform nearly identically to one another.

The 2060 will have the higher peaks, but you take an average, it really doesn't come out ahead.


on DESKTOP, 2060 blows everything away obviously, because it gets all the juice it needs. https://static.slickdealscdn.com/ima...s/emot-nod.gif
Makes sense to me. Totally forgot the power limit.
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Makes sense to me. Totally forgot the power limit.
Yea, we also have the crazy situation where 9300h laptops (4 core) outperform 9750h(6core) laptops with the same GPU, for the same reason,

Because the lower powered cpu, leaves more wattage for the GPU, allowing the GPU to eek out more framerates.

The performance swing from power limits on mobile is ridiculous. yummy
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even the mobile max q gtx 1660 ti is significantly faster than the mobile gtx 1060(non max q). the max q 1660 ti is only about 7-8% slower than the 80w 1660 ti. the 80w gtx 1660 ti is only about 10% slower than the 80w gtx 2060. plenty of reviewers have even noted the relatively small performance difference on mobile. like said above, depending on the processor and strange implementations of power limits tied to both cpu and gpu, you can see some wild swings.
my 9300h 1660ti(max q) results 3dmark...
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https://www.3dmark.com/spy/7780979
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https://www.3dmark.com/fs/19753972
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You're clearly new to this, please educate yourself, Laptops don't have comparable raw performance. The dissipation of the chassis and power limit makes the same cpu/gpu parts vary wildly in performance.

When they're within 20%, they're considered the same, From there, you look at price and specific reviews on the chassis build you intend to buy.

That's how it works. Don't embarrass yourself further.
45% <> 20%. Perhaps you didn't read or just understand.

Considered the same by who? I've provided two independent reviews and anecdotal evidence that they're not the same. What do you have? A bunch of incorrect assumptions, no data, and misguided opinion.
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thank you for posting this deal! repped
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even the mobile max q gtx 1660 ti is significantly faster than the mobile gtx 1060(non max q). the max q 1660 ti is only about 7-8% slower than the 80w 1660 ti. the 80w gtx 1660 ti is only about 10% slower than the 80w gtx 2060. plenty of reviewers have even noted the relatively small performance difference on mobile. like said above, depending on the processor and strange implementations of power limits tied to both cpu and gpu, you can see some wild swings.
my 9300h 1660ti(max q) results 3dmark...
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https://www.3dmark.com/spy/7780979
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https://www.3dmark.com/fs/19753972
Exactly, Huge swings happen on laptop benches, which is why I keep iterating that Between 1060 1660ti and 2060, they' can all reach roughly the same performance, and it comes down to SPECIFIC models and configuration when buying.
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I'm so wary of Dell laptops. The one I got my parents for Christmas still has issues coming out of sleep mode despite hours with tech support and having them change the motherboard. Will they do replacements or is a refund even possible at this point?
I have an Alienware one and had to replace motherboard year later right after warranty. When I reboot it simply shuts off. Will not buy Dell again.
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no, 2060 mobile chip, is more/less the same performance as 1660ti is the same as 1060 lvl performance from last gen.

The rtx on 2060 is a joke, it's too slow to be of any use, even at 1080p.


Nothing is future proof at the moment, because the ONLY card that can reasonably utilize Ray-Tracing with playable framerates is 2080Ti (and even then , it doesn't do a good job).

But for everything OUTSIDE of raytracing, 2060 = 1660Ti = 1060 (On Mobile)

on Desktop 2060 is a good chunk faster than 1660Ti and much faster than 1060. Desktop 2060 is a completely different performance lvl vs mobile.


Scarlett/ PS5 will have something close to desktop 2060 or gtx1080(vanilla), probably 5700 or 5700xt
As a tensor-core GPU, RTX 2060 is far superior to any 1xxx series GPUs in terms of machine learning.
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Hahaha. no it's not. https://static.slickdealscdn.com/ima...s/emot-LOL.gif
Guess you have no idea about what I am talking about.
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How is this comsidered a deal when there was/is Alienware m17 with similar specs for less than $1100 shipped?

I'd assume that it would be much more suited for these specs with better cooling and whatnot...

There was also an m15 Alienware with similar specs for less than $800 like a week ago...

Can someone 'splain me?
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