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  • AMD Ryzen 7 3700U Mobile Processor
  • 15.6" 1920x1080 Anti-glare LED Backlit Narrow Border Display
  • 256GB M.2 PCIe NVMe Solid State Drive
  • 8GB 2666MHz DDR4 Memory
  • AMD Radeon RX Vega 10 Graphics
  • 802.11ac WiFi + Bluetooth 4.1
  • 3-Cell 42WHr Battery
  • Backlit Keyboard
  • Windows 10 Home (64-Bit)
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  • Windows 10 Home 64 Bit
  • 15.6" 1080P Anti-Glare IPS Display
  • AMD Ryzen 7 3700U 2.3 GHz (4 GHz Turbo, 6MB Cache)
  • AMD VEGA 10 Graphics
  • 8GB (4GBx2) DDR4 2400 MHz Ram (32GB Max)
  • 256GB M.2 PCIe NVMe SSD + Empty 2.5" bay
  • Backlit Keyboard
  • Fingerprint reader (Integrated in Power Button)
  • 720P HD WebCam
  • McAfee LiveSafe 12 Month Subscription
  • Dual Band 802.11ac (1x1) + Bluetooth 4.1 + Gigabit Ethernet
  • PORTS:
    • 2x USB 3.0
    • 1x USB 2.0
    • 1x USB 3.1 Gen 1 Type-C (Display, Power Delivery, Data)
    • 1x HDMI 1.4a
    • 1x SDXC Card Reader
    • 1x Audio Combo Jack
  • 3 Cell 42 WHr Battery
  • 3.90 lbs
The Fingerprint is not mentioned in the product page and mentioned as generic comment to have an optional FP reader. Just add it to Cart and click on the View Full Spec. You will find the information under the Palm-rest section as "Silver Palmrest With Fingerprint Reader"
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Last Edited by Suryasis October 10, 2019 at 07:41 AM
Review Link: https://www.notebookcheck.net/Del...556.0.html

Display Type: WVA or Wide Viewing Angle or IPS.

Charging: This has a fully featured 3.1 Spec Type-C Port which supports Data, Display Out (4k at 60 Hz) and Charging using Power Delivery

Fingerprint Reader: This model has Fingerprint Reader embedded in the Power button. If you add the product in your Cart and then click on View Full Config, you will see this infomation.

Memory Upgrade: It has two user accessible Ram slots and supports up to 32GB.

Storage Upgrade: One M.2 Slot where the current SSD is and one empty 2.5" Slot for 2.5" HDD or SSD storage.

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I do understand. Crap OEM fan profiles and crap cooling. Not the fault of the silicon whatsoever.
It's not just the fan, the oem vendor also under volt the cpu to remain in the lower temperature primarily because they think that most users are stupid and are concerned about noise. I just simply ask for a toggle in the bios to give users the options. This laptop will run slower than laptops that are older yet does not throttle. also, the review said that the color gamult may be at about 40% of srgb? I even have my doubts as to it even being an entry level ips panel as the deal didn't list it. And then the SSD performs miserbly slow compared with the XPS.. read the review.. it's shocking. finally, "We experienced no issues on our test unit save for some infrequent sleep issues. Our unit would sometimes not wake from sleep and a hard reset would then be required." It's just too much problem. It's just really disappointing that vendors can't come out with laptop that can perform as advertised. I'm not only hammering on this laptop, but it would be wise that everybody check their laptop (any brand and cpu) they buy with prime95 and hwinfo64 and do a burnin for about 10 to 15 minutes. Nothing much have changed since the last bf. I wonder if the beefy laptops are any better.. for me, I'll wait for the 7nm amd laptop ...or maybe get a desktop since I really need the speed.
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Notebookcheck.net review of the exact same model with exact configuration. They have praised this for one of the best Ryzen CPU implementation.
https://www.notebookcheck.net/Del...556.0.html [notebookcheck.net]
The review says this throttles from 3.3Ghz to 1.4Ghz under Prime95 stress. not good. also, the panel can display about 40% of srgb? And the ssd is super slow for sequential read compared to xps. I pass.
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do you guys know if dell would foot the return shipping due to poor performance, a performance which can not be achieved under load? walmart was great in that they foot the bill during bf.
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The review says this throttles from 3.3Ghz to 1.4Ghz under Prime95 stress. not good. also, the panel can display about 40% of srgb? And the ssd is super slow for sequential read compared to xps. I pass.
Prime95 is for extreme testing with huge artificial load and hardly any real world application will create that load. So, using that for claiming that processor throttling is a very bad idea and clearly shows that you have little idea about thermal testing. Literally any 15W TDP CPU, Intel or AMD, will throttle under Prime95.
And regarding your Panel, all the laptops at this price range, whether HP, Dell, Lenovo or Acer, come with Panel with similar quality.
However, you lied to show how bad the panel is from the review or you don't understand color gamut details. As per notebookcheck.net review, it has 55.6% sRGB and 40% Adobe RGB. Asus Vivobook, Hp Pavilion 15, Lenovo Ideapad S340; all wthing60% range come with similar panel. If you want sub $500 Laptop with 100% Adobe rGB then good luck.
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It's not just the fan, the oem vendor also under volt the cpu to remain in the lower temperature primarily because they think that most users are stupid and are concerned about noise. I just simply ask for a toggle in the bios to give users the options. This laptop will run slower than laptops that are older yet does not throttle. also, the review said that the color gamult may be at about 40% of srgb? I even have my doubts as to it even being an entry level ips panel as the deal didn't list it. And then the SSD performs miserbly slow compared with the XPS.. read the review.. it's shocking. finally, "We experienced no issues on our test unit save for some infrequent sleep issues. Our unit would sometimes not wake from sleep and a hard reset would then be required." It's just too much problem. It's just really disappointing that vendors can't come out with laptop that can perform as advertised. I'm not only hammering on this laptop, but it would be wise that everybody check their laptop (any brand and cpu) they buy with prime95 and hwinfo64 and do a burnin for about 10 to 15 minutes. Nothing much have changed since the last bf. I wonder if the beefy laptops are any better.. for me, I'll wait for the 7nm amd laptop ...or maybe get a desktop since I really need the speed.
No thin and light untrabook Processors come undervolt. Show me one example or report. What you are referring is for gaming and high performance CPU with Intel 45W TDP CPU. Don't waste so many words with your invalid claims. Show me a single link stating that Companies are undervolting 15W TDP CPU.
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Prime95 is for extreme testing with huge artificial load and hardly any real world application will create that load. So, using that for claiming that processor throttling is a very bad idea and clearly shows that you have little idea about thermal testing. Literally any 15W TDP CPU, Intel or AMD, will throttle under Prime95.
And regarding your Panel, all the laptops at this price range, whether HP, Dell, Lenovo or Acer, come with Panel with similar quality.
However, you lied to show how bad the panel is from the review or you don't understand color gamut details. As per notebookcheck.net review, it has 55.6% sRGB and 40% Adobe RGB. Asus Vivobook, Hp Pavilion 15, Lenovo Ideapad S340; all wthing60% range come with similar panel. If you want sub $500 Laptop with 100% Adobe rGB then good luck.
That's so bs! I run Handbrake using software H265 and it throttles horribly. You don't know what you're talking about. I updated the firmware to an i3 during bf and the throttle stopped because the fan went full speed. no such update was available for the hp ryzen 5 lappy during bf. IPS panels definitely are much better than 40% of SRGB. Some even rival and surpass ARGB. Check your laptop with Prime95 and hwinfo64 folks. and don't be afraid to return it if you're not satisfied. this type of performance is a joke!
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No thin and light untrabook Processors come undervolt. Show me one example or report. What you are referring is for gaming and high performance CPU with Intel 45W TDP CPU. Don't waste so many words with your invalid claims. Show me a single link stating that Companies are undervolting 15W TDP CPU.
Please go do your research, and your statement "Show me a single link stating that Companies are undervolting 15W TDP CPU" illustrate that you totally don't understand the issue at all.

This cpu can go down to 12W TDP! Adn can be pushed further down appearantly. I saw the numbers in hwinfo64 when running prime95 on the other ryzen laptop during bf.

Here, read this BF thread where the throttle was fixed (laptop is super thin and light) :

https://slickdeals.net/f/12270274-costco-members-hp-14-laptop-i3-8130u-4gb-ddr4-128gb-ssd-315

One user wrote:
"Quote from HappyGorilla491 FYI: Shockingly, this laptop's display supports HDR. Another nicety I would never expect at this price point, along with Windows Precision Touchpad. I do like that the machine came in S mode on account of that meaning the machine ships with near-zero bloat. Just UWP apps that can be uninstalled by right clicking on them."

HIGH DYNAMIC RANGE and also IPS for $319! and no throttle too!

The above was the deal during bf, AND, it has a beautiful IPS panel for $319. Only problem was tha it's a 14" for me. No throttling at all once the bios was updated, otherwise, you can imagine a bunch of people returning it to costco. Unfortunately, the $289 ryzen laptop during bf didn't have a bios that would fix the issue. and many vendors have the same issue, and I think it's done on purpose to push their high end models.

Where were you during 2018's bf? Did Dell hire you? Why are you scared of testing this laptop with prime95? Can't face the facts? I'm not god, so no need to pray to me, but please, please pray to Dell and cross those fingers, and hope that one day, dell will fix this throttling issue, but alas, I have zero hope that dell will fix it. This throttle issue is a biggy for people who runs video processing and or maybe even lightroom? but certainly with Handbrake software h.265 compression. hardware compresssion is a joke.
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That's so bs! I run Handbrake using software H265 and it throttles horribly. You don't know what you're talking about. I updated the firmware to an i3 during bf and the throttle stopped because the fan went full speed. no such update was available for the hp ryzen 5 lappy during bf. IPS panels definitely are much better than 40% of SRGB. Some even rival and surpass ARGB. Check your laptop with Prime95 and hwinfo64 folks. and don't be afraid to return it if you're not satisfied. this type of performance is a joke!
I have a pretty good idea. You are comparing a completely different Laptop with this one. I know that the previous version of Dell Inspiron with Ryzen CPU, both 5000 and 7000 series, have Throttling issue due to Dell restricting the Thermal Limit and Power Limit. Now they have corrected that issue and what you're saying is that since your model of Laptop with Ryzen throttles, every Ryzen Laptops will also throttle. That is a very irrational logic. Check the review of Thinkpad E485 and E585 and you will find out how well they perform and beat the Intel counterparts.
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Please go do your research, and your statement "Show me a single link stating that Companies are undervolting 15W TDP CPU" illustrate that you totally don't understand the issue at all.

This cpu can go down to 12W TDP! Adn can be pushed further down appearantly. I saw the numbers in hwinfo64 when running prime95 on the other ryzen laptop during bf.

Here, read this BF thread where the throttle was fixed (laptop is super thin and light) :

https://slickdeals.net/f/12270274-costco-members-hp-14-laptop-i3-8130u-4gb-ddr4-128gb-ssd-315

One user wrote:
"Quote from HappyGorilla491 FYI: Shockingly, this laptop's display supports HDR. Another nicety I would never expect at this price point, along with Windows Precision Touchpad. I do like that the machine came in S mode on account of that meaning the machine ships with near-zero bloat. Just UWP apps that can be uninstalled by right clicking on them."

HIGH DYNAMIC RANGE and also IPS for $319! and no throttle too!

The above was the deal during bf, AND, it has a beautiful IPS panel for $319. Only problem was tha it's a 14" for me. No throttling at all once the bios was updated, otherwise, you can imagine a bunch of people returning it to costco. Unfortunately, the $289 ryzen laptop during bf didn't have a bios that would fix the issue. and many vendors have the same issue, and I think it's done on purpose to push their high end models.

Where were you during 2018's bf? Did Dell hire you? Why are you scared of testing this laptop with prime95? Can't face the facts? I'm not god, so no need to pray to me, but please, please pray to Dell and cross those fingers, and hope that one day, dell will fix this throttling issue, but alas, I have zero hope that dell will fix it. This throttle issue is a biggy for people who runs video processing and or maybe even lightroom? but certainly with Handbrake software h.265 compression. hardware compresssion is a joke.
A lot of display can support software enabled HDR and that does not mean that it will look any better. Again, this proves that your knowledge about Display Quality is literally null. The Lenovo Legion Y540 has a Software Dolby Vision Display for an IPS panel but it looks exactly same as a SDR conetnt because the Laptop does not have enough brightness, local dimming, Contrast Ratio and color gamut coverage to show HDR properly. That is just a software enabled gimmick, nothing more.
For showing HDR, your laptop needs to have at least 400 nits brightness, over 1500:1 contrast ratio, 100% sRGB and over 80% DCI-P3 color gamut coverage and I can tell you right now that $300 HP does not have anything near that. That is just a software enabled gimmick, nothing more.
So, as I am telling you, learn a bit first before start posting so called expert comments.
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I have a pretty good idea. You are comparing a completely different Laptop with this one. I know that the previous version of Dell Inspiron with Ryzen CPU, both 5000 and 7000 series, have Throttling issue due to Dell restricting the Thermal Limit and Power Limit. Now they have corrected that issue and what you're saying is that since your model of Laptop with Ryzen throttles, every Ryzen Laptops will also throttle. That is a very irrational logic. Check the review of Thinkpad E485 and E585 and you will find out how well they perform and beat the Intel counterparts.
"Now they have corrected that issue and what you're saying is that since your model of Laptop with Ryzen throttles, every Ryzen Laptops will also throttle. That is a very irrational logic. Check the review of Thinkpad E485 and E585 and you will find out how well they perform and beat the Intel counterparts."

You obviously did not read the review provided by yourself where it says this laptop with this particular cpu throttles! what do you have to say about this? oh, so now are you insinuating that you dont' trust the review yourself or are you deluding yourself believing and hoping that throttling doesn't exist? READ THE REVIEW you linked!!!
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A lot of display can support software enabled HDR and that does not mean that it will look any better. Again, this proves that your knowledge about Display Quality is literally null. The Lenovo Legion Y540 has a Software Dolby Vision Display for an IPS panel but it looks exactly same as a SDR conetnt because the Laptop does not have enough brightness, local dimming, Contrast Ratio and color gamut coverage to show HDR properly. That is just a software enabled gimmick, nothing more.
For showing HDR, your laptop needs to have at least 400 nits brightness, over 1500:1 contrast ratio, 100% sRGB and over 80% DCI-P3 color gamut coverage and I can tell you right now that $300 HP does not have anything near that. That is just a software enabled gimmick, nothing more.
So, as I am telling you, learn a bit first before start posting so called expert comments.
So now you're saying that people who purchased that laptop and the specs are lying that it has HDR? Unbelieveable, dude! Where have you been? That HP has an IPS panel, not this one. and I actually bought that laptop, did you? I have never heard of a more shitty panel than this one that covers 40% of SRGB. Oh, and I have cable too!
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So now you're saying that people who purchased that laptop and the specs are lying that it has HDR? Unbelieveable, dude! Where have you been? That HP has an IPS panel, not this one. and I actually bought that laptop, did you? I have never heard of a more shitty panel than this one that covers 40% of SRGB. Oh, and I have cable too!
What I'm saying is that you have no idea about how HDR or in fact anything work. Otherwise you would have understood my explanation of display HDR Standards and how it works. That laptop just has a software enabled HDR but it is not even capable of displaying anything near it.
By the way, this one has IPS Panel as well, SD Moderators removed it while converting it FP. Just expand my original post to get more details. Dell used the term WVA or Wide Viewing Angle for this.
One thing I got from your posts that you just want to blabber in these threads without understanding even the basic things . Otherwise, you would have noticed that the review link you have provided from Notebookcheck.net, clearly mentioned that this laptop has IPS Panel and 58.5% sRGB. But as usual, you never bothered to notice those. Perfect example of trolling if you ask me.
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If this Dell has the same shitty connector as their other 55xx series, you will be fixing/replacing the power jack on this thing every few months. It has an internal pin that will frequently break off from fatigue, not due to unusual stress on the cable, etc.

Search "Dell" and "plugged into AC power and not charging" and you will see.
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If this Dell has the same shitty connector as their other 55xx series, you will be fixing/replacing the power jack on this thing every few months. It has an internal pin that will frequently break off from fatigue, not due to unusual stress on the cable, etc.

Search "Dell" and "plugged into AC power and not charging" and you will see.
It charges via Type C ports as well. So, if you have a 45 watt or higher capacity Type C power delivery charger, you can use that. With 65 watt charger, it actually charges first.
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What I'm saying is that you have no idea about how HDR or in fact anything work. Otherwise you would have understood my explanation of display HDR Standards and how it works. That laptop just has a software enabled HDR but it is not even capable of displaying anything near it.
By the way, this one has IPS Panel as well, SD Moderators removed it while converting it FP. Just expand my original post to get more details. Dell used the term WVA or Wide Viewing Angle for this.
One thing I got from your posts that you just want to blabber in these threads without understanding even the basic things . Otherwise, you would have noticed that the review link you have provided from Notebookcheck.net, clearly mentioned that this laptop has IPS Panel and 58.5% sRGB. But as usual, you never bothered to notice those. Perfect example of trolling if you ask me.
I feel for you mate! That person doesn't know anything about computers. Thank you for speaking with knowledge.
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