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I place them into the same category, "Budget NVMe" (which includes drives suitable for HTPC/mobile) - the main distinction would be QLC versus TLC NAND/flash. QLC is notorious for being slow if you catch it outside of the SLC cache, and it has 1/3 the endurance; however, neither is generally a concern for the general user. If you're filling the drive, it is more likely to be an issue.

The 660p also has DRAM (256MB for all SKUs, versus the typical 1GB for 1TB of NAND) but I do not consider this a significant factor for the type of usage this category of drives should see. However, having DRAM (versus HMB) should produce better performance within the SLC cache with mixed workloads (simultaneous reads and writes). The Realtek controllers are budget by their very nature so only worth a look if they outright beat all other TLC-based options in price (which here, it does).

QLC vs. TLC at 1TB is a "sticky wicket" of a choice for many technical reasons. QLC is four times as dense as TLC (generally) so needs more flash to hit peak performance, meanwhile weaker controllers as used on these budget NVMe drives tend to have fewer channels and thus are optimized for less NAND; this means TLC-based drives are pushing the envelope at 1TB, especially if they're DRAM-less (even with HMB). So you'd opt for this drive over the 660p specifically if you're looking for consistent sequential performance.

On the balance the SMI controllers are quite excellent - the 660p in normal usage gets close to the best drives on the market for typical consumer usage - and the reduction in DRAM plus use of QLC helps with power efficiency as well. However, the S5 also comes with a heatsink, with thermals being an entire discussion on their own; to keep it short, the heatsink should only be considered for aesthetic purposes in general.
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FYI, this drive is similar to Adata SX6000 Pro, which uses TLC NAND.

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"This drive competes directly with the SM2263XT drives like the HP EX900. These are single-sided, DRAM-less w/HMB technology, four-channel NVMe drives built for cost savings as a SATA replacement option. Especially good for mobile/SFF. There are not any reviews I'd consider concrete on this drive yet but it has a number of improvements over the original Non-Pro (NP) model that had so many issues - that one tended to overheat due to the presence of DRAM and denser 3D NAND. There's also a Lite version of this drive that's quite similar to the Pro."
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The only time I've ever seen a cheaper 1TB Nvme drive was the Intel 660p for $5 less, and that's for a QLC drive. Prices are definitely coming down.
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FYI, this drive is similar to Adata SX6000 Pro, which uses TLC NAND.

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"This drive competes directly with the SM2263XT drives like the HP EX900. These are single-sided, DRAM-less w/HMB technology, four-channel NVMe drives built for cost savings as a SATA replacement option. Especially good for mobile/SFF. There are not any reviews I'd consider concrete on this drive yet but it has a number of improvements over the original Non-Pro (NP) model that had so many issues - that one tended to overheat due to the presence of DRAM and denser 3D NAND. There's also a Lite version of this drive that's quite similar to the Pro."
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FYI, this drive is similar to Adata SX6000 Pro, which uses TLC NAND.

Quote by NewMaxx:
"This drive competes directly with the SM2263XT drives like the HP EX900. These are single-sided, DRAM-less w/HMB technology, four-channel NVMe drives built for cost savings as a SATA replacement option. Especially good for mobile/SFF. There are not any reviews I'd consider concrete on this drive yet but it has a number of improvements over the original Non-Pro (NP) model that had so many issues - that one tended to overheat due to the presence of DRAM and denser 3D NAND. There's also a Lite version of this drive that's quite similar to the Pro."
How does this compare to the Intel 660?
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I thought people said weeks ago that there was still plenty of room for SSD prices to decrease even more, but lately, there have been very few deals on SSD's at all, and the SSD deals I've seen aren't that great. If anything, prices have gone UP a bit.

What happened?
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I thought people said weeks ago that there was still plenty of room for SSD prices to decrease even more, but lately, there have been very few deals on SSD's at all, and the SSD deals I've seen aren't that great. If anything, prices have gone UP a bit.

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The only time I've ever seen a cheaper 1TB Nvme drive was the Intel 660p for $5 less, and that's for a QLC drive. Prices are definitely coming down.
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The only time I've ever seen a cheaper 1TB Nvme drive was the Intel 660p for $5 less, and that's for a QLC drive. Prices are definitely coming down.
This is a "low performance" 1TB SSD and as such, should be priced low. DRAM-less and low speeds.

My point is, SD's used to be flooded daily with SSD deals. Lately, not so much (if at all). Prices are decent compared to 6 months ago, but the decline seems to have eased a bit. That was all I was saying...
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I thought people said weeks ago that there was still plenty of room for SSD prices to decrease even more, but lately, there have been very few deals on SSD's at all, and the SSD deals I've seen aren't that great. If anything, prices have gone UP a bit.

What happened?

Well, among any other things, in the US, Thanksgiving is around the corner. Places might be waiting until Black Friday/Cyber Monday.

Maybe inventory stock has dropped, but I don't know much about that.
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This is a "low performance" 1TB SSD and as such, should be priced low. DRAM-less and low speeds.

My point is, SD's used to be flooded daily with SSD deals. Lately, not so much (if at all). Prices are decent compared to 6 months ago, but the decline seems to have eased a bit. That was all I was saying...
tariffs have pushed prices of every damn product atleast 30% more.
so any deal applied on that will still be expensive.
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/headscratch, not sure this is a good deal.

this BF we're waiting for SX8200 Pro, Gammix s11 pro, ex920 hp, ex950 hp, @ ~$90

8200Pro has seen $110 already, that's the lowest for that performance bracket.
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How does this compare to the Intel 660?
I place them into the same category, "Budget NVMe" (which includes drives suitable for HTPC/mobile) - the main distinction would be QLC versus TLC NAND/flash. QLC is notorious for being slow if you catch it outside of the SLC cache, and it has 1/3 the endurance; however, neither is generally a concern for the general user. If you're filling the drive, it is more likely to be an issue.

The 660p also has DRAM (256MB for all SKUs, versus the typical 1GB for 1TB of NAND) but I do not consider this a significant factor for the type of usage this category of drives should see. However, having DRAM (versus HMB) should produce better performance within the SLC cache with mixed workloads (simultaneous reads and writes). The Realtek controllers are budget by their very nature so only worth a look if they outright beat all other TLC-based options in price (which here, it does).

QLC vs. TLC at 1TB is a "sticky wicket" of a choice for many technical reasons. QLC is four times as dense as TLC (generally) so needs more flash to hit peak performance, meanwhile weaker controllers as used on these budget NVMe drives tend to have fewer channels and thus are optimized for less NAND; this means TLC-based drives are pushing the envelope at 1TB, especially if they're DRAM-less (even with HMB). So you'd opt for this drive over the 660p specifically if you're looking for consistent sequential performance.

On the balance the SMI controllers are quite excellent - the 660p in normal usage gets close to the best drives on the market for typical consumer usage - and the reduction in DRAM plus use of QLC helps with power efficiency as well. However, the S5 also comes with a heatsink, with thermals being an entire discussion on their own; to keep it short, the heatsink should only be considered for aesthetic purposes in general.
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How does this compare to 1 TB Samsung 860 EVO?
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I don't know much about SSD but how many better is Samsung 970 Evo
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I don't know much about SSD but how many better is Samsung 970 Evo
Not many better, few worse
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If you are close to a microcenter I would still recommend the inland premium over any of these similarly priced drives.
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