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EDIT► I got waaaay more PM's and replies than I expected asking for more info on the steam group's list. So here's the link to see the latest (it's updated often based on Steam player data)

UPDATED Best VR Headsets List w/ Tips & Tricks info►https://steamcommunity.com/groups...318730441/
-------(OLD COPY) 11/15/2019 (OLD COPY)--------
Over 100 JoinUsInVR Steam group members and friends have voted to make this list after trying dozens of the different VR headsets. Decide what's best for you, then go to SlickDeals.net [steamcommunity.com] to find the best price.

Across the board most people at the JoinUsInVR Steam Group say to get a PC SteamVR comparable device, make sure the device IPD (eye spacing) matches yours, get a used one if you're on a budget, or a better one if you have the cash.
► $150 to $250 WMR like a "Odyssey+" if on a budget. It's about 95% as fun as the more expensive options, can play almost any game, and has fairly decent hand tracking quality too.
► $200 PSVR only if you have a PlayStation and want easy access, BUT with greater long term cost, significantly reduced experience & tracking, reduced visual quality, and much fewer games (PC based VR is the smarter choice if you have a PC with a GTX 960 or better GPU)
► $250 Used Vive if you want "best in class" 360-degree hands/head tracking accuracy, the most game choices (paid and free), will usually play in one room, and want a FUTURE upgrade ability (compatible with $280 controllers or $500 headset from the Valve Index)
► $350 Rift S if decent hand tracking quality is enough, future upgrades are not that big of a concern, AND you fit the non adjustable IPD range.
► $400 Oculus Quest if you don't have a PC with a GTX 960 or better, or wireless is more important than graphics and long term game cost. (though the "$20 near-wireless" https://steamcommunity.com/groups...104403957/ add-on solution makes PC VR a better choice for most people)
► $800+ Valve Index w/ $200 off* if you want the "best-in-class" 360-degree controllers/tracking/sound, gfx, & overall quality on a bigger budget (used base stations)
►+/- Other Options: Go to the https://steamcommunity.com/groups/joinusinvr/ Steam home page to cast your vote into this list, see more options, or to and suggest something we overlooked. If the community up votes the change, then this list will be updated to match!
►* $200 off the Valve Index (used base stations)
• Like some have done, purchase a used Vive set on eBay. Keep the lighthouses, then sell the set and clearly state excludes lighthouses. JoinUsInVR members have done this successfully and then the net Index cost is about $800. You can even turn a profit on your used Vive if you sell the controllers separate from the HMD.
►NOTE: Prices are approximate and this list is frequently updated based on recent SlickDeals.net [steamcommunity.com] discovered prices.
► $60 BONUS: The Valve Index also comes with HLVR!
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....I have many VR tips and tricks and free game recommendation links, if you do decide to get into VR, send me a PM.
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Well, first thing I might suggest to someone looking to game on a budget is to look into Viveport Infinity. You can bang out A LOT of games by subbing to it for one month and just beating all the games that are an hour or a few hours long. There's at least a couple dozen games worth playing on there, and a half dozen to a dozen real winners.

Next I'd recommend hitting up the vrgamedeals subreddit and also looking during Steam sales.

As for specific games, I'd recommend the following (I actually generated this for the FIT-in-VR group -- http://fit-in-vr.com -- so I copied it from there.):

1. In Death (when it goes on sale for $8.99): Dark Souls meets Archery. Super hard!
2. The Forest (when it goes on sale for $11.99): Survial/Crafting meets true Horror.
3. Space Pirate Trainer (when it goes on sale for $7.49): Best VR wave shooter out there.
4. Racket NX (when it goes on sale for $9.99) Futuristic Squash with score attack gameplay.
5. The Talos Principle VR (when it goes on sale for $5.99) 20 hour first person puzzler in the vein of The Witness and the Portal games.
6. Jet Island (when it goes on sale for $12.99) Tribes meets Shadow of the Colossus with the style of the old TV show Reboot. One of the best VR experiences period.
7. Space Junkies (when it goes on sale for $4.99) Excellent arcade shooter that's like UT and Quake meets Shattered Horizon.
8. Until You Fall (when it goes on sale for $14.99) Spectacular arcade sword based/melee combat in a roguelite package. Best combat in VR in my opinion.
9. To The Top (when it goes on sale for $9.99) Fun first person platformer with time attack based gameplay and collectibles.
10. I Expect You to Die (when it goes on sale for $9.99) Excellent first person puzzler with plenty of style to spare.

A few others that aren't usually cheap but worth mentioning as some of the best VR has to offer but can only be played through Revive since they're Oculus exclusives: Lone Echo ($30), Asgard's Wrath ($40), Chronos ($10).

Also, Pavlov ($25) and Onward ($25) are the two best multiplayer FPS.

And of course Beat Saber ($30), Pistol Whip ($25), and Audica ($30) for music/rhythm (my personal fav being the newly released Pistol Whop).

There's a lot of copy/paste asset flips and super short games in the VR space so be sure to either research a game before buying or find a reviewer or community your trust for recommendations. I do my best on Slickdeals and Reddit to guide people in the right direction because there's some truly great content in VR but also a ton of stuff that is a waste of your time in money. Between my Rift, PSVR, and now my Odyssey+ I've played most of what's worth playing and I'm more than happy to share my wisdom to help people save money and avoid the garbage out there.
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Yup. Folks get caught up in the specs but the cheap WMR headsets are simply an incredible value for getting your foot in the door and waiting for much higher resolution and field of view to come around in another generation.
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I have a friend who LOVES this WMR set.

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EDIT► I got waaaay more PM's and replies than I expected asking for more info on the steam group's list. So here's the link to see the latest (it's updated often based on Steam player data)

UPDATED Best VR Headsets List w/ Tips & Tricks info►https://steamcommunity.com/groups...318730441/
-------(OLD COPY) 11/15/2019 (OLD COPY)--------
Over 100 JoinUsInVR Steam group members and friends have voted to make this list after trying dozens of the different VR headsets. Decide what's best for you, then go to SlickDeals.net [steamcommunity.com] to find the best price.

Across the board most people at the JoinUsInVR Steam Group say to get a PC SteamVR comparable device, make sure the device IPD (eye spacing) matches yours, get a used one if you're on a budget, or a better one if you have the cash.
► $150 to $250 WMR like a "Odyssey+" if on a budget. It's about 95% as fun as the more expensive options, can play almost any game, and has fairly decent hand tracking quality too.
► $200 PSVR only if you have a PlayStation and want easy access, BUT with greater long term cost, significantly reduced experience & tracking, reduced visual quality, and much fewer games (PC based VR is the smarter choice if you have a PC with a GTX 960 or better GPU)
► $250 Used Vive if you want "best in class" 360-degree hands/head tracking accuracy, the most game choices (paid and free), will usually play in one room, and want a FUTURE upgrade ability (compatible with $280 controllers or $500 headset from the Valve Index)
► $350 Rift S if decent hand tracking quality is enough, future upgrades are not that big of a concern, AND you fit the non adjustable IPD range.
► $400 Oculus Quest if you don't have a PC with a GTX 960 or better, or wireless is more important than graphics and long term game cost. (though the "$20 near-wireless" https://steamcommunity.com/groups...104403957/ add-on solution makes PC VR a better choice for most people)
► $800+ Valve Index w/ $200 off* if you want the "best-in-class" 360-degree controllers/tracking/sound, gfx, & overall quality on a bigger budget (used base stations)
+/- Other Options: Go to the https://steamcommunity.com/groups/joinusinvr/ Steam home page to cast your vote into this list, see more options, or to and suggest something we overlooked. If the community up votes the change, then this list will be updated to match!
* $200 off the Valve Index (used base stations)
• Like some have done, purchase a used Vive set on eBay. Keep the lighthouses, then sell the set and clearly state excludes lighthouses. JoinUsInVR members have done this successfully and then the net Index cost is about $800. You can even turn a profit on your used Vive if you sell the controllers separate from the HMD.
NOTE: Prices are approximate and this list is frequently updated based on recent SlickDeals.net [steamcommunity.com] discovered prices.
$60 BONUS: The Valve Index also comes with HLVR!
-------(OLD COPY) 11/15/2019 (OLD COPY)--------


....I have many VR tips and tricks and free game recommendation links, if you do decide to get into VR, send me a PM.
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• $300 Used Vive if you want "best in class hands/head tracking range and accuracy", the most games, or to eventually upgrade to an Index (as I did, and saved $250 of the Index)
• $350 Rift S if hand tracking and upgrade is not that big of a concern AND you fit the non adjustable IPD range.
The S is pretty much at parity with the Vive now on tracking for all practical purposes and the the Rift has access to far more games considering all of Steam as well as all the MUCH better Oculus exclusives running natively on the headset.

Tracking was a different story at launch but it's nearly magical now. You really have to go out of your way to hide the controllers from the cameras and the same efforts can be put forth to successfully hide from the lightboxes.

I'd still get a O+ on a better sale than this though ($250 is the normal low price). All these headsets are first generation stuff that isn't really worth "investing" for high end gear that's going to be obsolete pretty quick.
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I'd still get a O+ on a better sale than this though ($250 is the normal low price). All these headsets are first generation stuff that isn't really worth "investing" for high end gear that's going to be obsolete pretty quick.

When was O+ $250 new for the general public? I only remember Unidays discounted price on Samsung.com that was in that price region.
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When was O+ $250 new for the general public? I only remember Unidays discounted price on Samsung.com that was in that price region.
I mean it qualifies you with a .99 cent ebay .edu... it's not exactly an exclusive program. And it's gone that low a few times now so it's mostly just a waiting game this close to BF.
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The S is pretty much at parity with the Vive now on tracking for all practical purposes and the the Rift has access to far more games considering all of Steam as well as all the MUCH better Oculus exclusives running natively on the...
Vive and Index have a MUCH bigger game selection.

Stream literally has 3000 to 4000 games for them, many which WILL NOT run on the Rift, according to the game's reported comparability. And there's no reason an independent game dev would make that claim unless it was true.

Meanwhile EVERY Oculus Rift "exclusive" can be played on Vive/Index using the free ReVive utility. I've never heard of any Oculus game not working on Vive/Index.

As for tracking, I have tried a Rift but don't own one. But being as the majority of the web says Vive/Index tracking is still better, and Valve calls Index "best in class" in the ads, yet Oculus doesn't sue them for that claim, leads me to believe Rift tracking is good, but not as good.
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Vive and Index have a MUCH bigger game selection.

Stream literally has 3000 to 4000 games for them, many which WILL NOT run on the Rift, according to the game's reported comparability. And there's no reason an independent game dev would make that claim unless it was true.

Meanwhile EVERY Oculus Rift "exclusive" can be played on Vive/Index using the free ReVive utility. I've never heard of any Oculus game not working on Vive/Index.

As for tracking, I have tried a Rift but don't own one. But being as the majority of the web says Vive/Index tracking is still better, and Valve calls Index "best in class" in the ads, yet Oculus doesn't sue them for that claim, leads me to believe Rift tracking is good, but not as good.
Guess we can agree to disagree. Anyone reading this can look up how well Oculus runs steams games and how well Revive runs Oculus stuff. Suffice to say they are at parity with the exception that Oculus runs Steam games by design and Vive runs Oculus stuff through a hack.

The tracking is dandy on the Rift. You're trading very slightly less controler oclusion for a pair of lighthouses you need to plug into the wall and mount in your room. The fact that the Rift stuff just works and I can pop it on my system downstairs or over to a friends house means the tracking is far better if for no other reason than it's portable.

I'm actually not a Rift fan boy by any stretch, hence us agreeing on folks should probably just get the cheap WMR sets. But you make the Rift S out to be some hand me down to the Vive and it's far and away better than the OG Vive in almost every way (and going on sale for $350 this BF if I read that right somewhere).
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Guess we can agree to disagree. Anyone reading this can look up how well Oculus runs steams games and how well Revive runs Oculus stuff. Suffice to say they are at parity with the exception that Oculus runs Steam games by design and Vive runs Oculus stuff through a hack.

The tracking is dandy on the Rift. You're trading very slightly less controler oclusion for a pair of lighthouses you need to plug into the wall and mount in your room. The fact that the Rift stuff just works and I can pop it on my system downstairs or over to a friends house means the tracking is far better if for no other reason than it's portable.

I'm actually not a Rift fan boy by any stretch, hence us agreeing on folks should probably just get the cheap WMR sets. But you make the Rift S out to be some hand me down to the Vive and it's far and away better than the OG Vive in almost every way (and going on sale for $350 this BF if I read that right somewhere).
Read the first posts in this thread and you'll see I listed the Rift as one of the handful of my recommended options.

I did not say the Rift was a bad choice. But you did say the Vive was.

The fact is if someone is serious about competitive rifle shooting or bow games (hand occlusion), wants the best tracking available, or to have a future upgrade path to the Index, the Vive is the right choice for them.
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Yup just differing opinions. I wouldn't punish anyone with the Vive controllers or or the much needed and never there HTC support. I wouldn't recommend that people getting into VR first time shop as if they are competitive rifle / bow shooters. I wouldn't recommend someone buy an inferior Vive in order to upgrade to a better headset. Just my opinion, obviously different than yours, I simply can't think of a single reason to put the original Vive on anyone's shopping list and you can. Welcome to the internet I guess.
The Vive SAVES money, and gives what the industry experts call "BEST in class tracking"....

I bought a used Vive so I could make sure VR or something I would seriously enjoy, and then upgraded to the index about a month later.

Doing that prevented me from risking $1000 just to try it.

It also SAVED me about 25% off the Index. My then twice used Vive sold in literally 24 hours on eBay.

If that's not proof of a good reason to buy a Vive, and that others agree, then I don't know what is.
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The big deal on this is that it comes with 1233 ppi nobody else looks to be even near to thar. I had an Oculus Rift 461ppi, which for me is too low, but this is almost 3 times that amount so it should be great.
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• $150 WMR like a used Odyssey+ or a new other brand if on a budget. It's like 95% as fun as the $1k.
I can't find any Odyssey+ used for close to $150.

That being said, what about the $130 HP Mixed Reality headset on sale at Microcenter? Is the Odyssey+ worth doubling the price?
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Is it perfect? No. For less than a quarter of a Valve Index setup and half an Oculus one is it arguably the best budget alternative without sacrificing quality? Absolutely.
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