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Amazon.com has Samsung SmartThings F-MN US-2 Home Monitoring Kit (White) on sale for $79.99. Shipping is free. Thanks kjg291

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  • 1x SmartThings Hub
  • 2x SmartThings Multipurpose Sensors
  • 1x SmartThings Motion Sensor
  • 1x SmartThings Outlet
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I've really been considering switching from Wink to Smartthings...

Anyone think this is worth the switch? Considering the hub is all i really need, i have plenty of zwave devices already.
Wink is on the verge of going out of business. The hubs will stop working soon. Should plan to switch sooner than later.
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So what can you do with the multi sensors? By chance can theyry be used as water leak sensors?
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There's something wrong with yours if they take that long. All my devices turn on within a second most of the time.
I've had the version 2 kit for almost 2 years now and I am still very happy. If someone opens my door less than a second my phone is going off shortly after I'm receiving a text.
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It really depends on what is important to you. Samsung is certainly a bigger presence in the market than Hubitat, but I'm not sure that means SmartThings is high on their priority or futures lists. I made the switch to Hubitat primarily to get local execution, but I also was very impressed with the vitality of the Hubitat Community (https://community.hubitat.com/) and that developers participate daily in the discussions there. See also the Hubitat Live series on YouTube. I wasn't seeing that kind of life in SmartThings.

Another thing that I like about Hubitat is that it appeals to the part of me that wants to know what's going on. Every event can be logged so you can troubleshoot. If a light comes on, you can dig into why. And although SmartThings will tell you that a device is in use somewhere, Hubitat back links to where. Much easier to keep up with what's going on.

SmartThings with ActionTiles is superior to Dashboards in Hubitat. But dashboards are getting better, and third party alternatives are available. SmartThings excels in the remote app if the ability to modify your home automation remotely is important to you. Hubitat has a mobile app that serves for presence and notifications, and also has ability to surface your Dashboards there - so you can control stuff. You cannot, however, add/remove devices, change rules, etc. with the mobile app (if you want to, though, you can use VPN to get to your home LAN).

I don't mean to bash SmartThings. I used it for two years. And it may be the best answer for someone who prioritizes simple, clean, and a big corporation behind the solution. If you tend to want to get your hands into the heart of things just a bit more, Hubitat may be for you. This does not imply that you need to be a programmer/hacker to use Hubitat .. that is far from true.

Take a look at the Hubitat community (link above), and also the device compatibility list (https://docs.hubitat.com/index.ph...le_Devices and see how that compares to SmartThings. Also, worth watching https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=44olrmMPxw4
How hard is it to set up automations? I find it's very limited and undependable on ST.
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I have this and I also paid $80 last year, it's very unreliable. It disconnects randomly, app is quirky and batter on two sensors already dead. I wish I trsted it before drilling into my doors and cutting into moldings.
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We have about 9 of these in different buildings at work. They've been rock solid and super fast for our purpose (panic button security alerting)
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I've really been considering switching from Wink to Smartthings...

Anyone think this is worth the switch? Considering the hub is all i really need, i have plenty of zwave devices already.
Don't. Wink is a far inferior system. I run both because I have a bunch of switches that only work with wink and it would cost ~$700 to replace them.

Wink doesn't support as many devices including all smartthings devices. Wink does not have a easy way to report changes. For example there is no "This" in IFTTT for wink. My wink system is purely a slave system and it isn't that great at that. It's slow.

It only works for me because Alexa is transparent to platform so I can call out smartthings and wink switches with no problems.

Just to give one example. I have two thermostats. Both built for wink. I bought a custom controller for smartthings to control them because the wink native control was terrible. And smart things sucks at controlling 2 thermostats.

Basically, I was in your position 2 years ago. I bought the wink system. Tried to convert and immediately saw all the short comings. I limited it to my quirky switches and I am slowly replacing those devices to get rid of wink.
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I've had this for a couple years and it works well. I buy individual Duracell. The pack of Panasonic off Amazon would be low battery very quickly.

Duracell: https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00O35ULSY/
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Stay away from SmartThings.
Super buggy.

Unless you have to use Z-Wave just go ZigBee with an Amazon Echo/Show - much more stable
(I have 40+ devices across both and hate the unreliability of SmartThings. Be prepared to disconnect/reconnect all devices constantly!)
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We have about 9 of these in different buildings at work. They've been rock solid and super fast for our purpose (panic button security alerting)
Can you link to the panic button smart things device?
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no thanks, i like my firewalled, no internet access unless i say, smart home solution with openhab. also adding a mycroft speech system in the future...dont need anything phoning home
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It really depends on what is important to you. Samsung is certainly a bigger presence in the market than Hubitat, but I'm not sure that means SmartThings is high on their priority or futures lists. I made the switch to Hubitat primarily to get local execution, but I also was very impressed with the vitality of the Hubitat Community (https://community.hubitat.com/) and that developers participate daily in the discussions there. See also the Hubitat Live series on YouTube. I wasn't seeing that kind of life in SmartThings.

Another thing that I like about Hubitat is that it appeals to the part of me that wants to know what's going on. Every event can be logged so you can troubleshoot. If a light comes on, you can dig into why. And although SmartThings will tell you that a device is in use somewhere, Hubitat back links to where. Much easier to keep up with what's going on.

SmartThings with ActionTiles is superior to Dashboards in Hubitat. But dashboards are getting better, and third party alternatives are available. SmartThings excels in the remote app if the ability to modify your home automation remotely is important to you. Hubitat has a mobile app that serves for presence and notifications, and also has ability to surface your Dashboards there - so you can control stuff. You cannot, however, add/remove devices, change rules, etc. with the mobile app (if you want to, though, you can use VPN to get to your home LAN).

I don't mean to bash SmartThings. I used it for two years. And it may be the best answer for someone who prioritizes simple, clean, and a big corporation behind the solution. If you tend to want to get your hands into the heart of things just a bit more, Hubitat may be for you. This does not imply that you need to be a programmer/hacker to use Hubitat .. that is far from true.

Take a look at the Hubitat community (link above), and also the device compatibility list (https://docs.hubitat.com/index.ph...le_Devices and see how that compares to SmartThings. Also, worth watching https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=44olrmMPxw4
I am looking for something to use as a home alarm. How good is hubitat in that category?
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How hard is it to set up automations? I find it's very limited and undependable on ST.
Hubitat is a blank slate when setup. The power comes from adding "apps" which is trivial to do. There are built-in apps for common use cases such as Motion Lighting, for example. This app asks questions such as "What lights do you want to turn on?" and "What triggers do you want to use to turn them on?". A guided tour. You can do quite a bit by using just the apps.

The Rule Machine app is comparable to WebCoRE in SmartThings. There is a bit of a learning curve as you need to establish the subtle differences between an event trigger (e.g. the door opened) and a condition (e.g. the door is open). In other words, there are no scripting skills needed, but you need to put want you want to do in logical terms that you then express using an admittedly clunky UI. Once you get past that, you can set up virtually anything - If there is motion in the hall or bedroom, then turn off these lights and notify me, but only if the cat has not been fed or it is after 5 PM. You can go crazy with it.

It's been fun rambling about Hubitat here, but I acknowledge it is off topic. I'd refer any further questions to docs.hubitat.com and community.hubitat.com.
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The biggest difference is runnig events local vs always through cloud in V3
This is very not true. Running locally or cloud is based on the device, not the hub. I had a v2 hub then upgraded to a v3 hub and every device that worked local before the upgrade still does. For me that's 66 devices in total run locally.

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Stay away from SmartThings.
Super buggy.

Unless you have to use Z-Wave just go ZigBee with an Amazon Echo/Show - much more stable
(I have 40+ devices across both and hate the unreliability of SmartThings. Be prepared to disconnect/reconnect all devices constantly!)
Sounds like you have a bad mesh setup. I have almost 90 devices and no stability issues.


With the above said I would not buy this kit. The outlet is the newer style but the sensors and hub are all old. Especially with the v3 hub being $70 and black friday coming up....I'm thinking they are just trying to clear old inventory.
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I vaguely remember Micro-center was the ideal place to buy ST kits. I do not see it on MC anymore. how does this deal hold up tot he deal before?

I have a house full of KASA switches. Do tey work well with ST?
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