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Heads up: Ricoh's field service contractors refused to honor my warranty on a Ricoh SP C250DN, presumably because it was too cheap. Hey: I never asked for field service. They could've just refunded me if they felt that way.

Like this printer, replacement cartridges were more expensive than buying another printer, so I bought two and kept one of them completely unused. Eventually, my brother and I opened a computer shop and needed a printer so we finally unboxed it many months later. We soon discovered that the contacts were mangled for one of the toner carts so it would not register an inserted cartridge. Remember: this printer was never used.

First, I had to fight with Ricoh to acknowledge the warranty. Seems they wanted to dismiss me for not being an enterprise customer or something. They saw the $70 invoice price and flatly refused, claiming that there was no way Adorama or that price was legit and they don't cover gray-market sales. I was able to show that the price comes and goes, that Adorama is authorized, and that Adorama's site listed it as having a 1yr MFG warranty. I even ordered them during different Adorama sales where the price went back up in between.

Even though it was originally sold to me for SOHO use, it was being set up for the first time to use for a business (computer shop), and everything I said was true, so they eventually relented. I thought it was a bit much to send a field service tech for a spring contact I could replace if they'd only give me the part (it was a computer shop, after all), but at least it seemed they were finally willing to do something.

Anyway, the tech barely glanced in its direction before deciding that it was beneath him just because it wasn't some giant floor-standing work center machine. He left and I never heard back. The whole thing took weeks and by that point my warranty was finally over and I couldn't get anything out of the phone support people. I ended up fixing a $1,300 Epson Stylus Pro 3880 for my home use ($10 Goodwill find!) and dragging the other C250DN to the shop.

I don't know how much of this is applicable to this newer multi-function model, but I got a lot of extra mileage out of the original "starter" carts for mine by just swapping the chips with "full" replacements (chips available on eBay). When it finally ran out for real I just swapped the other starter cart and continued printing. As those started registering empty I moved the replacement chips from the original carts (now genuinely empty) and continued printing from the second set since the chips were still reporting plenty of toner remaining. I then prepped the original set with new chips and refilled them so I could swap the whole set in at once when one of the other set went genuinely empty or reported empty.

After that, I refilled the empty/partially empty set and set them aside so they'd be ready to use when needed. Soon some dude on YouTube showed how you could use an Arduino to reprogram/reset the chips without buying replacements. I don't know if his method will work on this newer model but I felt it was worth mentioning just in case.
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You can take the toner cartridges apart and refill them if you dont mind a little bit of extra work/mess. But yes it is cheaper to throw the printer away than buy replacement toner cartridges.

The Ricoh replacement cartridges run:
Black - $55 (2300 pages)
Cyan - $89 (2300 pages)
Magenta - $85 (2300 pages)
Yellow - $85 (2300 pages)
Total - $314

Knock off cartridges are cheaper and run about $150 for all 4. Taking the toner cartridges apart and refilling them yourself runs about $50.
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As interesting as this is it appears that toner refills cost as much as the unit.

Anyone find different?
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As interesting as this is it appears that toner refills cost as much as the unit.

Anyone find different?
You can take the toner cartridges apart and refill them if you dont mind a little bit of extra work/mess. But yes it is cheaper to throw the printer away than buy replacement toner cartridges.

The Ricoh replacement cartridges run:
Black - $55 (2300 pages)
Cyan - $89 (2300 pages)
Magenta - $85 (2300 pages)
Yellow - $85 (2300 pages)
Total - $314

Knock off cartridges are cheaper and run about $150 for all 4. Taking the toner cartridges apart and refilling them yourself runs about $50.
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ricoh just came out with this printer there are no aftermarket that i can find yet but aftermarket will come as well as refill chips. Im hoping the chip from the C250A is the same as the M250 in this one.

Starter cartridges that come with unit are only filled to yield 900/1000 pages so good luck on buying printers just for the toners. Full toners are 2300/2400 pages
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You can take the toner cartridges apart and refill them if you dont mind a little bit of extra work/mess. But yes it is cheaper to throw the printer away than buy replacement toner cartridges.

The Ricoh replacement cartridges run:
Black - $55 (2300 pages)
Cyan - $89 (2300 pages)
Magenta - $85 (2300 pages)
Yellow - $85 (2300 pages)
Total - $314

Knock off cartridges are cheaper and run about $150 for all 4. Taking the toner cartridges apart and refilling them yourself runs about $50.
I had a similar model of Ricoh all-in-one and the cartridges for it were just as expensive, but I planned to make it work economically by refilling the toner manually. It turned out to be a huge, painful, time-consuming mess, even once I got the knack for how to do it. Eventually one of the refilled cartridges leaked toner all over the inside of the printer and the whole thing is just unusable now. I'm sure user error has a big role in that, so others may have a better experience than I did, but personally I'll never again buy a printer unless at least the generic toner is affordable, even if it means paying a little more for the printer up front.

For what it's worth, the printer itself was great while it lasted, and it's still in use as a duplex ADF scanner.
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Heads up: Ricoh's field service contractors refused to honor my warranty on a Ricoh SP C250DN, presumably because it was too cheap. Hey: I never asked for field service. They could've just refunded me if they felt that way.

Like this printer, replacement cartridges were more expensive than buying another printer, so I bought two and kept one of them completely unused. Eventually, my brother and I opened a computer shop and needed a printer so we finally unboxed it many months later. We soon discovered that the contacts were mangled for one of the toner carts so it would not register an inserted cartridge. Remember: this printer was never used.

First, I had to fight with Ricoh to acknowledge the warranty. Seems they wanted to dismiss me for not being an enterprise customer or something. They saw the $70 invoice price and flatly refused, claiming that there was no way Adorama or that price was legit and they don't cover gray-market sales. I was able to show that the price comes and goes, that Adorama is authorized, and that Adorama's site listed it as having a 1yr MFG warranty. I even ordered them during different Adorama sales where the price went back up in between.

Even though it was originally sold to me for SOHO use, it was being set up for the first time to use for a business (computer shop), and everything I said was true, so they eventually relented. I thought it was a bit much to send a field service tech for a spring contact I could replace if they'd only give me the part (it was a computer shop, after all), but at least it seemed they were finally willing to do something.

Anyway, the tech barely glanced in its direction before deciding that it was beneath him just because it wasn't some giant floor-standing work center machine. He left and I never heard back. The whole thing took weeks and by that point my warranty was finally over and I couldn't get anything out of the phone support people. I ended up fixing a $1,300 Epson Stylus Pro 3880 for my home use ($10 Goodwill find!) and dragging the other C250DN to the shop.

I don't know how much of this is applicable to this newer multi-function model, but I got a lot of extra mileage out of the original "starter" carts for mine by just swapping the chips with "full" replacements (chips available on eBay). When it finally ran out for real I just swapped the other starter cart and continued printing. As those started registering empty I moved the replacement chips from the original carts (now genuinely empty) and continued printing from the second set since the chips were still reporting plenty of toner remaining. I then prepped the original set with new chips and refilled them so I could swap the whole set in at once when one of the other set went genuinely empty or reported empty.

After that, I refilled the empty/partially empty set and set them aside so they'd be ready to use when needed. Soon some dude on YouTube showed how you could use an Arduino to reprogram/reset the chips without buying replacements. I don't know if his method will work on this newer model but I felt it was worth mentioning just in case.
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Just buy another printer
The printer comes with starter cartridges good for 1000 pages. The replacement cartridges are good for 2300 pages.
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I had a similar model of Ricoh all-in-one and the cartridges for it were just as expensive, but I planned to make it work economically by refilling the toner manually. It turned out to be a huge, painful, time-consuming mess, even once I got the knack for how to do it. Eventually one of the refilled cartridges leaked toner all over the inside of the printer and the whole thing is just unusable now. I'm sure user error has a big role in that, so others may have a better experience than I did, but personally I'll never again buy a printer unless at least the generic toner is affordable, even if it means paying a little more for the printer up front.

For what it's worth, the printer itself was great while it lasted, and it's still in use as a duplex ADF scanner.
I've been refilling cartridges for my church's copy machine for years. It's definitely messy, it's not everyone's job, but can get better after gaining experience after a couple of times like knowing where to drill holes for easier refill...
Refilled cartridges needed to be replaced eventually, I will not do it no more than 5 times or when seeing some issue in printout.

While using aftermarket cartridges is less messy and headache, however, the quality varies. I've had new aftermarket cartridges not working right out of the box, have seen cartridge making load noise... So, I would say the risk of using aftermarket cartridges or refilling your good cartridge is about the same.
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Looks like refill toner cartridge is pretty easy. Kit cost $20 on Amazon.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uNXs43AhnYo
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Heads up: Ricoh's field service contractors refused to honor my warranty on a Ricoh SP C250DN, presumably because it was too cheap. Hey: I never asked for field service. They could've just refunded me if they felt that way.

Like this printer, replacement cartridges were more expensive than buying another printer, so I bought two and kept one of them completely unused. Eventually, my brother and I opened a computer shop and needed a printer so we finally unboxed it many months later. We soon discovered that the contacts were mangled for one of the toner carts so it would not register an inserted cartridge. Remember: this printer was never used.

First, I had to fight with Ricoh to acknowledge the warranty. Seems they wanted to dismiss me for not being an enterprise customer or something. They saw the $70 invoice price and flatly refused, claiming that there was no way Adorama or that price was legit and they don't cover gray-market sales. I was able to show that the price comes and goes, that Adorama is authorized, and that Adorama's site listed it as having a 1yr MFG warranty. I even ordered them during different Adorama sales where the price went back up in between.

Even though it was originally sold to me for SOHO use, it was being set up for the first time to use for a business (computer shop), and everything I said was true, so they eventually relented. I thought it was a bit much to send a field service tech for a spring contact I could replace if they'd only give me the part (it was a computer shop, after all), but at least it seemed they were finally willing to do something.

Anyway, the tech barely glanced in its direction before deciding that it was beneath him just because it wasn't some giant floor-standing work center machine. He left and I never heard back. The whole think took a weeks and by that point my warranty was finally over and I couldn't get anything out of the phone support people. I ended up fixing a $1,300 Epson Stylus Pro 3880 for my home use ($10 Goodwill find!) and dragging the other C250DN to the shop.

I don't know how much of this is applicable to this newer multi-function model, but I got a lot of extra mileage out of the original "starter" carts for mine by just swapping the chips with "full" replacements (chips available on eBay). When it finally ran out for real I just swapped the other starter cart and continued printing. As those started registering empty I moved the replacement chips from the original carts (now genuinely empty) and continued printing from the second set since the chips were still reporting plenty of toner remaining. I then prepped the original set with new chips and refilled them so I could swap the whole set in at once when one of the other set went genuinely empty or reported empty.

After that, I refilled the empty/partially empty set and set them aside so they'd be ready to use when needed. Soon some dude on YouTube showed how you could use an Arduino to reprogram/reset the chips without buying replacements. I don't know if his method will work on this newer model but I felt it was worth mentioning just in case.
I assume you are referring to this video?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wwd5UCi9Huw
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I assume you are referring to this video?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wwd5UCi9Huw
Yep. I don't know if the same will work for this newer series since they may exist specifically to defeat this. I'm genuinely surprised that the older ones were this easy to flash with essentially nothing to stop you from reading and writing the chip. Maybe Ricoh wanted it to be easy for some reason.
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I assume you are referring to this video?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wwd5UCi9Huw

jeez

F these printer companies lol
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