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Best Buy has HP Spectre x360 2-in-1 Touch Laptop (15-DF1033DX) on sale for $1,099.99. Shipping is free. Thanks delz4stelz & Suryasis

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  • Intel Core i7-10510U 1.8GHz 10th Generation Processor
  • 15.6" 3840x2160 Touchscreen Display
  • 16GB 2666MHz DDR4 Memory
  • 512GB PCIe NVMe M.2 Solid State Drive
  • Wi-Fi 6 AX201 (2x2) + Bluetooth 5
  • Fingerprint Reader
  • NVIDIA GeForce MX250 2GB GDDR5
    • Ports
      • 1x USB 3.1 Type-A Gen 1
      • 2x USB 3.1 Type-C Gen 2 Thunderbolt 3 w/ PowerDelivery 3.0
      • 1x HDMI 2.0b
      • 1x DisplayPort 1.4
  • Backlit Keyboard
  • 6-Cell 84 Whr Battery
  • Weight: 4.6 lbs
  • Windows 10 Home 64-Bit
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HP Spectre x360 2-in-1 Laptop: 10th Gen Intel Core i7-10510U Quad-Core, 15.6" 4K IPS Touchscreen, 16GB DDR4, 512GB SSD + 32GB Optane, MX250 2GB, Thunderbolt 3, Backlit Keyboard, 6-cell, Win 10 $1099.99
https://www.bestbuy.com/site/hp-s...Id=6364582

Model: 15-DF1033DX
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Let me answer your question in details.
For 10th Gen, Intel has two different architecture. The U series is called Comet Lake which is based on the same old 14 nm architecture with some extra optimization. They have slightly higher clock speeds than previous generation Whiskey Lake and exact same UHD 620 integrated Gaphics. However, now they have, for the first time, a 15W TDP 6 Core CPU called i7-10710U which performs really well in multi-threaded workloads without getting hot like their 6 Core H series CPU.

Now the next series is called Ice Lake which is based on advanced 10 nm fabrication process, run cooler and offer superior integrated Graphics. They end with the term GX where G indicates the Graphics and X can be 1, 3, 5 and 7 and G7 is the highest end model called Intel Iris Plus. the G7 Graphics is more or less equivalent to AMD VEGA 10 integrated Graphics.
i7-1065G7 is the highest end 15W TDP Ice Lake Processor with G7 Intel Iris Plus Grapics and all the high end Sub Notebooks are using it. Examples are the new XPS 13.9 2-in-1, HP Spectre 13 x360, Lenovo C940 etc.

However, the 10 nm manufacturing process for Intel is still not mature enough for mass scale production and for creating high end Desktop or Laptop CPUs. That's why, you will be seeing the same old 14 nm+++++ fabrication based H series Laptop and Desktop Processors with more than 4 cores.
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I own last year's gem-cut Spectre x360 15-df0013dx. Most of what I'll say here probably applies because this model looks like a refresh of previous year's model, rather than a re-design.

For what it is, I quite like it. Great build quality (although the hinges could be aligned a bit better). First model I had exhibited unreliable usage with the pen, but my second model from HP fixed most of those problems along with updates I had.

Fan control was not great, but I was able to use "NoteBook FanControl" software to tap in and change your threshold for when the fan kicks on. I doubt anything has changed in that regard for this model. Regardless, I've just gotten used to it, and it's really not loud or anything.

Graphics-wise, don't expect to do gaming at 4K. Definitely going to be turning down the settings for gaming on this.

Touch screen is good, Windows Hello + fingerprint is nice. Keyboard takes some getting used to, but I do appreciate being able to do software development on this and other productivity tasks with the numpad. I conducted a few software developer interviews with this and others struggled to get used to the keyboard (although they had like 30-40 minutes at most).

I ended up using a different driver for Window Precision touchpad support, rather than the synaptics that comes default. Once I did that, I really enjoyed useing the trackpad more.

Physical switch to disconnect the webcam is nice if you want privacy. It doesn't disable microphones, just FYI.

Two Thunderbolt 3 ports at 4x speed, from what I've tested. Able to charge over USB-C Power Delivery via either port. You could use with external graphics enclosure over Thunderbolt 3, but obviously you shouldn't expect to get full graphics capability out of it like you would out of a desktop PC. I've used with USB-C docks and Thunderbolt 3 docks and it's worked just fine with those, too.

But. This is a heavy boi at 4.78lbs due to its build materials. So bear that in mind with your purchase. I certainly wouldn't want to have this fall.
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Not a true 10th generation processor. It's same 14nm++.
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Yeah I'd rather have the Spectre x360 non 2in1, comes with better dedicated graphics.
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Neutered by NVIDIA GeForce MX250?
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Not a true 10th generation processor. It's same 14nm++.
Still technically a 10th gen Comet Lake processor, just not a 10nm Ice Lake. It actually operates at a higher operating frequency than the ice lake so the processor itself might be faster (could hurt battery life). Downside is slower integrated graphics, but this comes with discrete graphics (even if only an MX250) to close that gap. Seems like a good price for the re-design on this being a 15" 4K panel.
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Heavier than other competitors and only 1 thunderbolt port
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Not a true 10th generation processor. It's same 14nm++.

What does that mean?
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Best Buy offers HP Spectre x360 15 2-in-1 (15-DF1033DX, Dark Ash Silver) Laptop @ $1099.99 with free shipping.

LINK: https://www.bestbuy.com/site/hp-s...Id=6364582

SPEC:
  • Windows 10 Home 64 Bit
  • 15.6" 4K IPS Micro-Edge 340 Nits Touch Display, 72% NTSC
  • i7-10510U 1.8 GHz (4.9 GHz Turbo, 8MB Cache)
  • 16GB (8GBx2) DDR4 2666 MHz Ram (32GB Max)
  • 512GB PCIe NVMe SSD + 32GB Intel Optasne
  • Nvidia MX250 2GB GDDR5 Graphics
  • Backlit Keyboard
  • 1080P IR WebCam /w Windows Hello
  • Fingerprint Reader
  • Intel Wi-Fi 6 AX 201 (2x2) + Bluetooth 5.0
  • PORTS:
    • 1x USB 3.0 (HP Sleep & Charge)
    • 2 USB 3.1 Gen 2 Type-C Thunderbolt 3 (40 Gb/s, Power Delivery 3.0, DisplayPort 1.4, HP Sleep and Charge)
    • 1x HDMI 2.0b
    • 1x Micro SDXC Card Reader
    • 1x Audio Combo Jack
  • 90W AC Power Adapter
  • 6 Cell 84 WHr Li-Ion battery
  • 4.78 lbs
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I need something good for my wife's photo editing and lower level video editing. Am I missing something or is this the steal that it seems to be?
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Thanks !! Been waiting forna good enough sale.. I'll drop by today with Best Buy Amex offer 3X as well to drop $90 more
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False alarm... Processor is still pretty low. Otherwise nice specs for casual use.
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False alarm... Processor is still pretty low. Otherwise nice specs for casual use.
Is there a higher specs 10th gen i7 hp spectre makes ?
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Nice. Just wish the trackpad was centered on it. I hate it when they put them on the left.
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I own last year's gem-cut Spectre x360 15-df0013dx. Most of what I'll say here probably applies because this model looks like a refresh of previous year's model, rather than a re-design.

For what it is, I quite like it. Great build quality (although the hinges could be aligned a bit better). First model I had exhibited unreliable usage with the pen, but my second model from HP fixed most of those problems along with updates I had.

Fan control was not great, but I was able to use "NoteBook FanControl" software to tap in and change your threshold for when the fan kicks on. I doubt anything has changed in that regard for this model. Regardless, I've just gotten used to it, and it's really not loud or anything.

Graphics-wise, don't expect to do gaming at 4K. Definitely going to be turning down the settings for gaming on this.

Touch screen is good, Windows Hello + fingerprint is nice. Keyboard takes some getting used to, but I do appreciate being able to do software development on this and other productivity tasks with the numpad. I conducted a few software developer interviews with this and others struggled to get used to the keyboard (although they had like 30-40 minutes at most).

I ended up using a different driver for Window Precision touchpad support, rather than the synaptics that comes default. Once I did that, I really enjoyed useing the trackpad more.

Physical switch to disconnect the webcam is nice if you want privacy. It doesn't disable microphones, just FYI.

Two Thunderbolt 3 ports at 4x speed, from what I've tested. Able to charge over USB-C Power Delivery via either port. You could use with external graphics enclosure over Thunderbolt 3, but obviously you shouldn't expect to get full graphics capability out of it like you would out of a desktop PC. I've used with USB-C docks and Thunderbolt 3 docks and it's worked just fine with those, too.

But. This is a heavy boi at 4.78lbs due to its build materials. So bear that in mind with your purchase. I certainly wouldn't want to have this fall.
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