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Windows 7 End of Security Update Support.

5,376 1,209 November 8, 2019 at 10:45 AM
Just curious...since Win 7 goes out of security update support in Jan and since well over 30% of the worldwide PC user base is still on Win 7, is MS really going to pull the plug and risk a massive worldwide virus attack on 100s of millions of users? I just can't imagine a company potentially exposing itself to the backlash from that, even if they cover their back sides with legaleze and massive lead time warnings. Seems like a PR night mare in the making. You would think they would offer a free upgrade again to those still vulnerable at the very least. Curious what everyone thinks?

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Businesses can still pay for security updates through 2023. I suspect that if any really serious threats get patched during that time that Microsoft will push that patch to all users.

You can still upgrade for free, Microsoft just isn't pushing their specific program any more.

At some point, it will cost Microsoft more to continue to support W7 than any potential negative reaction to stopping support might cost them. Sounds like they are getting to that point.
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What percentage of electronic voting machines still run windows 7 lol.
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Businesses can still pay for security updates through 2023. I suspect that if any really serious threats get patched during that time that Microsoft will push that patch to all users.

You can still upgrade for free, Microsoft just isn't pushing their specific program any more.

At some point, it will cost Microsoft more to continue to support W7 than any potential negative reaction to stopping support might cost them. Sounds like they are getting to that point.

Yeah but there are a lot of consumers still using Win 7 and obviously they are not paying money to continue support even if they could and most are not likely to upgrade to 10 via the media creation tool imo. Just looks to me like a massive hit coming MS's way because they do not want to continue support for WIn 7 and have not been able to convince a good portion of the masses to switch to Win 10 voluntarily (and Win 10 does indeed blow, but that is another matter).

If some bad virus hack comes along and trashes machines\exposes personal data, MS is going to be taking it on the chin, legally covered or not imo. The bad press and lawsuits will follow anyway. Unlike with XP where there was just a hard core of intransigents that refused to switch to Win 7, there is an enormous number of people still on Win 7 refusing to go to Win 10. Maybe they will just push out the updates if something serious comes up but you would think they would moderate their stance before it ends up become a problem for them imo.
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What percentage of electronic voting machines still run windows 7 lol.

Win 7..many are likely running MS DOS lol.
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No I don't think MS is going to go backwards on what they have now been saying for several years here. They did bring down the requirements to buy patches going forward so that is an option. I think you may see a few free updates here and there for really big zero day problems on the scale of Wannacry etc but other then that your out of luck. I almost wonder if we will see any "hacks" like we did for XP when it went EOL to put it easily on the supported channel. People have had years to migrate at this point and to plan for any hacks or workarounds at this point would be foolish and dangerous.

I understand it's a pain, I have a few I am migrating too but I anticipate making the deadline.
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Win 7..many are likely running MS DOS lol.
XP, NT5, or OS/2 are just as likely...
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After XP, ME was a disaster and Vista had major initial problems. The End of Life getting extended made sense. 7 and 8 got free upgrades to 10 (and the keys still work for installing 10). I can't see why they would extend the servicing date. Looks like the pace is moving more quickly: https://gs.statcounter.com/windows-version-market-share/desktop/worldwide/

They won't service something forever, even Adobe is giving up servicing Flash next year as well.
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After XP, ME was a disaster and Vista had major initial problems. The End of Life getting extended made sense. 7 and 8 got free upgrades to 10 (and the keys still work for installing 10). I can't see why they would extend the servicing date. Looks like the pace is moving more quickly: https://gs.statcounter.com/window...worldwide/

They won't service something forever, even Adobe is giving up servicing Flash next year as well.
No but unlike the case where people had initial reasons not to go to ME and Vista, Win 7 was a huge success and really no one complains\complained about it. The only people left on XP are the incredibly intransigent or cheap.

Win 10 is hated by a good number of people which is why there is still a large number on Win 7. Just see the potential for a major PR nightmare at the min and a large lawsuit at the worst if they have a vulnerability they do not fix after Jan that becomes widespread and causes major issues. Yeah they can argue it is past time to move on and Win 10 is better and they gave free upgrades, yada yada yada, but really no one is going to care in that respect.

They have by and large failed to prove the worth of Win 10 to a fair amount of people because of the embedded spyware, removing of the start button, etc. and indeed, if it was not for going into collusion with the chip makers not supporting Win 7 and the ending of support, the percentage of people still running Win 7 would likely still be well over 50% imo. All that is moot at this point, but I just can't understand why MS would not just keep pushing it out a few more years until most of the the older machines go obsolete and Win 10 takes over naturally because it is the only MS OS supported by the newer procs.
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If I recently got a Plex pass, would I need to keep Windows 7 for the TV media guide? I have yet to actually use Plex. I just never got around to setting it up yet

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Linux is great option. Free, lots of programs, looks like windows & you can install it quickly b
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