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The 16 MP sensor on this made everything grainy. Even with the nifty fifty equivalent I just couldn't get any good low light photos. I feel like iPhone will soon surpass this type of entry level mirrorless. For what it's worth the image stabilization was crazy good, but I didn't like the overall feel or quality of the camera body, there was nothing to grip and it always felt like it was about to slip out of my hands, add a lens and it become super awkward to hold. I'm looking at the Sony a7000 series when those get heavily discounted, that just has a better final output in my opinion. All in I paid around $600 for a kit like the one shown above and I sold it for $489 just to move on before it lost any more value, looks like that was a good decision...if you can wait longer this camera will most likely be around $300 new by end of next year. One more piece of advice, really be honest with yourself...are you going to use this or is it some fantasy self image projection you have about taking cool shots? I found that iPhone pics are more fun and less anxiety filled, if you have a physical camera people are intrigued and they're going to want to look and and sometimes ask why. I have some social anxiety and I found I just couldn't muster up enough energy to want to deal with the minutia that is involved in physical cameras. Cool for newly minted parents or photography student but even then why not just buy a way less expensive full sensor DSLR in those cases?
If you got grainy photos from this camera, it's probably because you used too high an ISO setting, and perhaps used one of the modes that limited its bit depth as well. I think if you choose auto ISO, it would choose a fairly high ISO in low light. Whatever the exact reason is, if you can't take good photos with this camera, you'd do only slightly better with a full frame camera. If you don't want to learn how to use a camera, you should stick with the iPhone.
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One thing I will add is that with the IBIS and support for legacy lenses (such as old Canon FD) the GX85 allows me to use super sharp and bright prime lenses at a very reasonable cost (e.g., a Canon FD 50mm 1.4 costs something like $60 used). This, in turn, allows me to take low light pictures (with say a 1.4 lens) and nice portraits (using the manual focus capabilities). All in all, this is a really nice compact camera with a lot of possibilities.
Absolutely. And there are lots of nice native (micro four thirds) prime lenses too. The Panasonic 20mm F/1.7 or Olympus 17mm F/1.8 for example. Or the Olympus 42mm F/1.8 for portraits.
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I would get this over Sony. Better lenses and larger selection of them. Panny and Oly have great glass, and it doesn't break the bank. Also, dual IS in some cases is hard to beat.
Note that this is a micro four thirds sensor. Sony is APS-C which is larger.
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Is this better than that g7 for video?
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Bounce flash is your friend. The GX85 makes it dead simple because you can tilt the on-camera flash back with your finger. No external flash needed.

In low light with static subjects, the IBIS on this camera helps it punch well above its class.

Now, if you're shooting low light, with fast action, and you can't use flash, larger sensor with fast glass is necessary *if you also need large high quality final images*. I.e. you're a pro or hobbyist and this is mostly what you shoot.

I think for most people, unless they're frequently shooting in conditions where they need f2.8 or faster on full frame for low light or shallow depth of field reasons, they'd really be better off with m43 or APS-C. Cheaper, lighter, and comparable image quality in many shooting circumstances.
I agree with you. When I mentioned the Sony offerings I was referring to APS-C. Full frame is overkill for most people.
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I have a gx85, great small cam with stabilization...I only use it for videos. Pics are not that great but I also have a FF camera.

The package I got came with the hand grip, Wow makes a huge difference and I love how it fits my hand with the grip.

Im going to get the Sirui Anamorphic lens for this camera. This is my go to video camera. Side note: I have the CineD profile hack.
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The 16 MP sensor on this made everything grainy. Even with the nifty fifty equivalent I just couldn't get any good low light photos. I feel like iPhone will soon surpass this type of entry level mirrorless. For what it's worth the image stabilization was crazy good, but I didn't like the overall feel or quality of the camera body, there was nothing to grip and it always felt like it was about to slip out of my hands, add a lens and it become super awkward to hold. I'm looking at the Sony a7000 series when those get heavily discounted, that just has a better final output in my opinion. All in I paid around $600 for a kit like the one shown above and I sold it for $489 just to move on before it lost any more value, looks like that was a good decision...if you can wait longer this camera will most likely be around $300 new by end of next year. One more piece of advice, really be honest with yourself...are you going to use this or is it some fantasy self image projection you have about taking cool shots? I found that iPhone pics are more fun and less anxiety filled, if you have a physical camera people are intrigued and they're going to want to look and and sometimes ask why. I have some social anxiety and I found I just couldn't muster up enough energy to want to deal with the minutia that is involved in physical cameras. Cool for newly minted parents or photography student but even then why not just buy a way less expensive full sensor DSLR in those cases?
You will have the same issue with the sony a7000 don't waste your money on it. Get the latest iPhone instead.
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Is this better than that g7 for video?
It depends. IBIS vs mic input and fully articulated screen.
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If you got grainy photos from this camera, it's probably because you used too high an ISO setting, and perhaps used one of the modes that limited its bit depth as well. I think if you choose auto ISO, it would choose a fairly high ISO in low light. Whatever the exact reason is, if you can't take good photos with this camera, you'd do only slightly better with a full frame camera. If you don't want to learn how to use a camera, you should stick with the iPhone.
Savaaaaage! 😂
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Savaaaaage! 😂
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This or the g7 package for $50 more?
Here's a video talking about these cameras: https://youtu.be/KONHaUM7HrY
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I have a gx85, great small cam with stabilization...I only use it for videos. Pics are not that great but I also have a FF camera.

The package I got came with the hand grip, Wow makes a huge difference and I love how it fits my hand with the grip.

Im going to get the Sirui Anamorphic lens for this camera. This is my go to video camera. Side note: I have the CineD profile hack.
I don't see MFT lenses by Sirui. Do you have a link?
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The image quality should be pretty much the same. The GX85 is more compact, G7 is more comfortable to hold (large grip). G7 has an articulated screen vs. GX85 has a tilting screen; personally I much prefer the tilting screen but some people (esp. videographers) prefer the articulated screen. GX85 has IBIS (sensor shift image satbilization) which is really nice to have, but mainly if you intend to buy lenses that don't have optical image stabilization. (The lenses that come with the G7 package do have optical image stabilization.)

Personally I think the GX85 is the better camera and the better choice unless you have a strong preference for the articulated screen.
G7 lenses also have OIS, but I agree that GX85 is better camera due to lack of anti-aliasing filter, newer electromagnetic shutter (sharper pics and less shutter shock ), IBIS, and HDMI pass-thru. For me, these outweigh the headphone port and articulating screen. Learn more here: https://youtu.be/KONHaUM7HrY
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Amazon matched the $447 price, minus the camera bag.
Can you pls share the amazon link?
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Can you pls share the amazon link?
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