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Lowest price ever on this camera per CCC. Just got one recently and it's a great compact.

The Amazon listing says "Limited Time Deal" so this may not be around long. Adorama also has this and it's listed as early black Friday pricing.

B&H Includes a memory card and case for the same price: https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/pr...amera.html
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Last Edited by StrawMan86 November 19, 2019 at 08:42 AM
Focus Camera has this camera for the same price w/ extras (Thanks sdmaddy):Holiday Bundle includes: Corel Deluxe Photo Software Kit, Sony 64GB V60 UHS-II Memory Card, Fotopro UFO2 Flex Pod Tripod, Koah PRO Panasonic DMW-BLG10 2-Pack 1100mAh Battery and Dual Charger, Case Logic Compact Camera Case with Storage (Black)

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Camera like this used to be $100 or 200.. now it's $400... ouch. No longer worth it, stick with phone camera.
This is a 1" sensor. Your info and opinion are reflective of smaller sensors
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Want to charm in that this is a fantastic, compact travel camera, from an enthusiast's perspective.

It has a Sony 1" BSI sensor (I think the same as the highly regarded RX100 III), so dynamic range and detail are reasonable. The lens is weaker, soft on the extreme ends for resolution, but this is the compromise for getting a 10x 25-250mm equiv range. Yes, it's not an iPhone/Pixel, but it has different strengths altogether. 4k photo mode is a winner and decent image stabilization. No phase-detection autofocus (contrast-based), but pretty decent. Highly recommended for this price!

https://www.dpreview.com/reviews/...s100-tz100
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Isn't the lowest price $95?
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Some observations from an amateur photographer:

Took this camera with me to Europe this summer, along with my Pixel 3a. Fiance used her iPhone XS Max. In good light, there's not much of a difference between this and the 3a. However, if you plan on printing pics, this camera is of course much better. I printed a 16x20 picture that I took on the Pixel and while it's fine from a distance, if you look closely, you can see some blurriness. I've blown out pictures taken with the ZS100 to 16x20 and they all look great.

For panoramas, I had the best success with an iPhone. I took 3 pictures and blew them up (two to a full panorama picture of 12x36, one I cropped for a 24x36 picture) and people consistently think that they're professionally taken.

For nighttime pictures, the ZS100 is by far the best if you know what you're doing, especially since you can customize picture settings. I would think that phones now with night mode can take comparable pictures, but I took some amazing pictures in the snow on this ZS100 last year. There's an app you can download to take pictures remotely, it works wonders for long exposure shots.
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Looks like B & H gives an extended warranty "rebate", a case and a small SD card for the same price (plus no tax for some). https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/pr...amera.html

Edit: Looks like rebate is good for purchase from any authorized dealer (there's a list on the rebate form).
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Some observations from an amateur photographer:

Took this camera with me to Europe this summer, along with my Pixel 3a. Fiance used her iPhone XS Max. In good light, there's not much of a difference between this and the 3a. However, if you plan on printing pics, this camera is of course much better. I printed a 16x20 picture that I took on the Pixel and while it's fine from a distance, if you look closely, you can see some blurriness. I've blown out pictures taken with the ZS100 to 16x20 and they all look great.

For panoramas, I had the best success with an iPhone. I took 3 pictures and blew them up (two to a full panorama picture of 12x36, one I cropped for a 24x36 picture) and people consistently think that they're professionally taken.

For nighttime pictures, the ZS100 is by far the best if you know what you're doing, especially since you can customize picture settings. I would think that phones now with night mode can take comparable pictures, but I took some amazing pictures in the snow on this ZS100 last year. There's an app you can download to take pictures remotely, it works wonders for long exposure shots.
Did you ever use the post focus or ihdr features? I was playing with the ihdr and it's pretty damn cool and effective
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Did you ever use the post focus or ihdr features? I was playing with the ihdr and it's pretty damn cool and effective
Yeah the iHDR is pretty great.
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I have the previous model and actually bought three because the optics were not known to have good QA. I tested all three and one were exceptional, one was okay, one was poor. I kept the best and returned the others. I realize that's kind of an ahole move, but the actual testing bore out my fears.

That said, the photos are very good when they are in focus. The focus can get fooled from time to time (which can be frustrating, as the error is often not noticeable on the preview screen), but missed shots are rare and the final prints are excellent. One drawback, if it is one, is that the camera offers a ton of features and customization. So much so that I find myself having to fiddle with it more than I should simply because I can't remember all of the functions and settings if I don't use it regularly.

For wide shots, my Samsung phone makes perfectly good pictures most of the time, but the results from the ZS are really superior, plus is has a usable zoom. For an example of what is captured at night, at 3200 ISO equivalent, here's a shot from Edinburgh last winter [imgur.com]. It's just a cheesy telephoto shot of the Balmoral, but the details (despite the noise/grain) is far and away better than anything you'll get from a small sensor.
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I have the previous model and actually bought three because the optics were not known to have good QA. I tested all three and one were exceptional, one was okay, one was poor. I kept the best and returned the others. I realize that's kind of an ahole move, but the actual testing bore out my fears.

That said, the photos are very good when they are in focus. The focus can get fooled from time to time (which can be frustrating, as the error is often not noticeable on the preview screen), but missed shots are rare and the final prints are excellent. One drawback, if it is one, is that the camera offers a ton of features and customization. So much so that I find myself having to fiddle with it more than I should simply because I can't remember all of the functions and settings if I don't use it regularly.

For wide shots, my Samsung phone makes perfectly good pictures most of the time, but the results from the ZS are really superior, plus is has a usable zoom. For an example of what is captured at night, at 3200 ISO equivalent, here's a shot from Edinburgh last winter [imgur.com]. It's just a cheesy telephoto shot of the Balmoral, but the details (despite the noise/grain) is far and away better than anything you'll get from a small sensor.
Kinda of a dick move from Panasonic. Their qc is so poorly that general users can tell the difference.
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how does this compare to Sony RX100 series?
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Any similar camera with a flip up screen, thats what's keeping me from buying it.
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how does this compare to Sony RX100 series?
I believe that the newer RX100 models have better sensors, but also less zoom. They're also about twice as expensive.

Here's some pics I've taken using my ZS100 in the last year. The first is a snowfall, where I used a really fast shutter speed with flash (f/2.8, 1/2000). The second is a long exposure shot of San Francisco, where I used the app to take the picture remotely (f/5.2, 1/.75).

https://imgur.com/Lwl8HNn
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