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(2) Ryobi 4.0Ah 18v batteries at Home Depot NOW $49

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Home Depot is running a Free Tool Promotion right now.

The beauty of this deal is that I needed one (or two) new batteries.

So I bought the Battery Kit ($149 - NOW $129) and received the 2-Pack of 4.0Ah Batteries ($99 - NOW $79) for "free."

The discount was prorated across the Battery Kit and Batteries so I was able to return the Battery Kit and the net cost for the 2-Pack of 4.0Ah batteries was $59.48 NOW $49.00.

Two 4.0Ah batteries for $59 - NOW $49!!

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When does the free tool promo end?
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If these are better than the grey ones (the Lithium+), then why would Home Depot advertise them as inferior (see attached)?

Or, are you saying they've been updated and are different from the original Lithium batteries?
I can tell you that the chart is not accurate in at least one item - the batteries I just bought have the "fuel gauge." Seems like they are updated from the original.
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The pro way to do it is to cancel the item you don't want within the 5 mins cancelation window
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its like the 360 sniper kills in Call of Duty aint it
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When does the free tool promo end?
in about 5 minutes
so hurry!
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If these are better than the grey ones (the Lithium+), then why would Home Depot advertise them as inferior (see attached)?

Or, are you saying they've been updated and are different from the original Lithium batteries?
Two things:

1. Most of that flyer is just marketing BS to exaggerate the benefits of a typical battery lineup upgrade. Ex, there's no difference in runtime between Lithium and Lithium+ except as determined by the AH rating. The performance difference comes down to the drain-amps rating of the cells used, and there's a lot of overlap here between the two product lines. Batteries should ideally be clearly advertised with both AH (capacity) and Amp (power) ratings, but power tool makers prefer to use ambiguous marketing terms like plus, CP, XR, etc. to keep customers hooked on upgrades while remaining clueless about what they're actually getting. The only consistent differences between Lithium and Lithium+ are that Lithium+ added sturdier casing, a fuel gauge, and had higher capacity options.

2. The black 4AH batteries were the last non-HP batteries to be released, AFTER the Lithium+ lineup. They were first seen when Ryobi launched their impact wrench, which is one of the most (probably THE most) power-hungry tools in their line-up. The wrench was rated at 300ft-lbs, and it's my belief that Ryobi couldn't advertise that rating without also making these batteries available that included 30A high-drain cells. I learnt about this on a forum where someone took one apart, and a look at the cell model number in the SDS confirmed that these used the most premium cells available. They are even better than the cells in the 3AH HP batteries.

Ryobi never marketed these batteries (which were initially only available in bundled form), presumably to prevent them from cannibalising their Lithium+ line-up. But you can clearly see that they don't fit anywhere in that marketing flyer. They're black in color, but their casing is identical to Lithium+ batteries, and they do have a fuel gauge.

Moral of the story: don't trust marketing blurbs.
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Can someone explain this to me. How do you get to those prices?
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Can someone explain this to me. How do you get to those prices?
I have changed the OP to include links to each of the Kit and the Batteries.

Add both to the cart and you will see the discounted pricing.

Then you can do one of multiple methods described above (return or cancel the kit; order the kit to a different pickup location - and don't).
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It's like camping at a spawn point, sniping spawns, and dropping artillery every time I get it

getting giddy just thinking about my Happy Penguin foy days lol
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Two things:

1. Most of that flyer is just marketing BS to exaggerate the benefits of a typical battery lineup upgrade. Ex, there's no difference in runtime between Lithium and Lithium+ except as determined by the AH rating. The performance difference comes down to the drain-amps rating of the cells used, and there's a lot of overlap here between the two product lines. Batteries should ideally be clearly advertised with both AH (capacity) and Amp (power) ratings, but power tool makers prefer to use ambiguous marketing terms like plus, CP, XR, etc. to keep customers hooked on upgrades while remaining clueless about what they're actually getting. The only consistent differences between Lithium and Lithium+ are that Lithium+ added sturdier casing, a fuel gauge, and had higher capacity options.

2. The black 4AH batteries were the last non-HP batteries to be released, AFTER the Lithium+ lineup. They were first seen when Ryobi launched their impact wrench, which is one of the most (probably THE most) power-hungry tools in their line-up. The wrench was rated at 300ft-lbs, and it's my belief that Ryobi couldn't advertise that rating without also making these batteries available that included 30A high-drain cells. I learnt about this on a forum where someone took one apart, and a look at the cell model number in the SDS confirmed that these used the most premium cells available. They are even better than the cells in the 3AH HP batteries.

Ryobi never marketed these batteries (which were initially only available in bundled form), presumably to prevent them from cannibalising their Lithium+ line-up. But you can clearly see that they don't fit anywhere in that marketing flyer. They're black in color, but their casing is identical to Lithium+ batteries, and they do have a fuel gauge.

Moral of the story: don't trust marketing blurbs.
This is why I got in on this deal because I just purchased that impact wrench and while the 3AH HP batteries are ok the higher drain cells should provide more power.
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I'm sorry, but you have no idea what you're talking about. If you bother to go through the SDS, you'll find that these black 4AHs are BETTER than the grey non-HP 4AHs (Lithium+). The black 4AHs have high-drain cells rated at 30A each while the grey 4AH non-HPs have 15A cells. So the black 4AHs are capable of delivering twice the power output of the grey 4AH non-HPs.

I personally prefer the black 4AHs even over the 4AH HPs since I already have a few 3AH HPs for my Brushless non-lawn tools, which are the only tools where HP makes a difference. For my extensive collection of brushed tools and brushed/brushless lawn tools, the 4AH HPs are worse than the black 4AH non-HPs since all they do is add unnecessary weight.
They aren't even lithium+. These are old technology batteries. Their lifespan is also much shorter. This isn't even a good price. They were $50 for two with free shipping a year ago. Smh
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Two things:

1. Most of that flyer is just marketing BS to exaggerate the benefits of a typical battery lineup upgrade. Ex, there's no difference in runtime between Lithium and Lithium+ except as determined by the AH rating. The performance difference comes down to the drain-amps rating of the cells used, and there's a lot of overlap here between the two product lines. Batteries should ideally be clearly advertised with both AH (capacity) and Amp (power) ratings, but power tool makers prefer to use ambiguous marketing terms like plus, CP, XR, etc. to keep customers hooked on upgrades while remaining clueless about what they're actually getting. The only consistent differences between Lithium and Lithium+ are that Lithium+ added sturdier casing, a fuel gauge, and had higher capacity options.

2. The black 4AH batteries were the last non-HP batteries to be released, AFTER the Lithium+ lineup. They were first seen when Ryobi launched their impact wrench, which is one of the most (probably THE most) power-hungry tools in their line-up. The wrench was rated at 300ft-lbs, and it's my belief that Ryobi couldn't advertise that rating without also making these batteries available that included 30A high-drain cells. I learnt about this on a forum where someone took one apart, and a look at the cell model number in the SDS confirmed that these used the most premium cells available. They are even better than the cells in the 3AH HP batteries.

Ryobi never marketed these batteries (which were initially only available in bundled form), presumably to prevent them from cannibalising their Lithium+ line-up. But you can clearly see that they don't fit anywhere in that marketing flyer. They're black in color, but their casing is identical to Lithium+ batteries, and they do have a fuel gauge.

Moral of the story: don't trust marketing blurbs.

Thanks! Helpful info.

That also make sense of why they aren't selling the grey (Lithium+) 4ah batteries on their website anymore.
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They aren't even lithium+. These are old technology batteries. Their lifespan is also much shorter. This isn't even a good price. They were $50 for two with free shipping a year ago. Smh
More cluelessness abound. The 4AH blacks have cells rated for 500 cycles while the 4AH non-HP greys have cells rated for 250 cycles. So these have TWICE the lifespan.

Yes, it's true that there were instances in the past when you could get these 2-pack for $50. That's when I stocked up. But those were fleeting deals, and $60 for a 2-pack is still a great deal.
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They aren't even lithium+. These are old technology batteries. Their lifespan is also much shorter. This isn't even a good price. They were $50 for two with free shipping a year ago. Smh
I won't feed the troll, but I will educate against this idiocy. The P108 is a 4Ah Lithium+. Read the Q&A on the page for these in the OP. One of the questions was what is different vs the P108. Ryobi themselves say the only difference is the color.

HOWEVER, if you do some research and find the articles from the true tool geeks out there, you'll learn that the cells are identical to the HP series batteries (The newest ones, not old tech as the troll suggests). This means they are, in all actuality, BETTER than the P108 batteries, but not as good as the HP series.

This guy got the details right, but to learn more you have to find teardowns:
https://slickdeals.net/forums/showpost.php?p=129857929&postcount=58

Icemanrc, please stop trying to spread bad information unless you have some factual data to support it. Thanks
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Does anybody know how long this deal will go on?
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