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Is it possible Lenovo computers are sending private data back to China?

7 November 28, 2019 at 08:01 AM
Is it possible Lenovo computers are sending private data back to China?

Is it possible that there's a chip somewhere in the computer that is quietly logging keystrokes or accessing password extensions that could be secretly sending the information back to China?

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Is it possible Lenovo computers are sending private data back to China?

Is it possible that there's a chip somewhere in the computer that is quietly logging keystrokes or accessing password extensions that could be secretly sending the information back to China?
You should be more concerned that Google, Apple, Amazon and Microsoft are already collecting this stuff!
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You should be more concerned that Google, Apple, Amazon and Microsoft are already collecting this stuff!
Oh I am...
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Yes. Is Lenovo involved? Highly unlikely. It is certainly possible that their included software or firmware is insecure enough to be easily infected, maybe even infected at the factory. It happens to every major PC maker sooner or later.
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Is water wet? All Chinese based corps are spying for their gov imo. If you believe otherwise, you are only kidding yourself imo. Whether Lenovo is sending your email, keystrokes, etc. over to the PLA, your guess is as good as mine, but nothing they supply is safe in that respect.

As to whether Google, Amazon, Facebook etc. are doing the same thing, in all likelihood yes, but not to the same level and extent imo. US companies are looking to extract marketing data for the most part. They have little to gain by stealing financial data or your email or stuff like that though companies like Google via search and Chrome may gather it all up anyway lol. Since they are subject to US law, if they get caught, they can lose billions in law suits and penalties and why risk that past a certain point.
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Possible yes, probable probably not. This is something security researchers look for. Most likely if it was happening we would know about it. It would be a huge brand image problem too. That said if I was a high value state government target, I wouldn't be using a Lenovo system.
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Yea it's possible. I have a pihole setup and the amount of usage data that goes back to manufacturers is sickening. Everything from my tv to my Apple products. Anything that's essentially connected. My pihole blocks most of it tho
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all computers are made in china so could have chip you could get a box that logs all your internet traffic

the y camera sends photos and videos back to china,the only reason I know is I was at my internet provider office stopped me logging into Chinese website
if you computer logs into china your phone could as well as they are made in china
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In my opinion, no.

Lenovo is based in China but they have a design center in the US which works on their laptop designs and security. Because they are a major seller to US businesses, they are well aware that if such a security flaw is present in their PC's, it would be widely reported and it would basically end their business, or at least badly harm it.

Also, Dell, HP, Apple and MSFT are essentially no different from Lenovo in these respects.
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I guess nobody reads the news anymore, LOL. This was widely reported - here's a fairly recent example. Years ago when Lenovo was first spun-off and sold to China US government agencies basically stopped dealing with them over fears of exactly this type of thing.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/fe...-companies
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I guess nobody reads the news anymore, LOL. This was widely reported - here's a fairly recent example. Years ago when Lenovo was first spun-off and sold to China US government agencies basically stopped dealing with them over fears of exactly this type of thing.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/fe...-companies [bloomberg.com]
I wouldn't be so quick to jump on people for not reading the news -- that story has been widely discredited by many sources. See, for example, https://www.washingtonpost.com/bl...ware-hack/

Of course there are concerns dealing with Chinese hardware. I get it. But the notion of a secret chip of that size being able to interface with your PC and send data back to China without being detected by security researchers is a little far fetched. There's plenty of malware that does this, but building it into hardware is a lot harder, especially when people are looking for it. There's always the possibility of rogue "code" in hardware, e.g. bad firmware or modified FPGA bitstreams, but an actual piece of hardware is easy to find and would be noticed during a security audit for any serious system.
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