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Qsee Dahua OEM 1080P SMART HOME WI-FI OUTDOOR BEACON CAMERA - 2 PACK (QCW2MPSL-2) $99.99

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Resolution: 1080P (1920x1080)
Frame Rate: up to 30 FPS
Memory Slot: Micro SD up to 128GB
Cloud Storage: Up to 30 day motion alerts (7-day free Cloud Storage trial included, additional subscription required)
Two Way Talk: Yes
Audio Recording: Yes
Siren: 110-118dB
Max Night Vision Distance: 32.5ft
Field of View: 135º
Lens Size: 2.8mm Fixed Lense
Digital Zoom: 16x
Video Compression: H.265/H.264
Wifi: 802.11b/g/n
Max. User Access: 20
Weather Resistance: IP65 Rated
Compatibility: QC Wi-Fi NVR / QC IP HD NVR; ONVIF, Amazon Alexa, Google Assistant, IFTTT
Power Supply: DC5V Power
Remote Viewing: Q-See Plus App (available for iOS and Android)

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This camera is essentially useless if you want to use it with a DVR/Blue Iris. You MUST register this with the QSee app for it to work and if it looses connection with the QSee server even the local stream disconnects. It sends a constant stream of data to the cloud. It uses unusual ports and most of the advanced settings are locked down. Only the app can control the light, alarm and speaker, so if you don't want to use the app then you lose those features. You can stream audio and video from the device to a DVR and turn ON the light if you use the right software... but you can't turn the light off! It is very picky with WiFi frequencies and VLANs There are no alternative firmware options. Someone can have mine for the cost of shipping because I am so fed up with trying to make this work locally only. There is a wired/PoE 4k version that looks identical but has all the features of a typical Dahua IP cam and is not tied to the cloud.
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This camera is essentially useless if you want to use it with a DVR/Blue Iris. You MUST register this with the QSee app for it to work and if it looses connection with the QSee server even the local stream disconnects. It sends a constant stream of data to the cloud. It uses unusual ports and most of the advanced settings are locked down. Only the app can control the light, alarm and speaker, so if you don't want to use the app then you lose those features. You can stream audio and video from the device to a DVR and turn ON the light if you use the right software... but you can't turn the light off! It is very picky with WiFi frequencies and VLANs There are no alternative firmware options. Someone can have mine for the cost of shipping because I am so fed up with trying to make this work locally only. There is a wired/PoE 4k version that looks identical but has all the features of a typical Dahua IP cam and is not tied to the cloud.
Thanks m4ha7m4,

hmmm... wondering why they state:
"Compatibility ..QC IP HD NVR; ONVIF.. " ( although this info is not on the spec sheet.. just the webpage spec section.. )

which in theory should mean you can use it with Blue Iris.

update:
Checked the Lorex version and I did not see much listed under ONVIF nor rtsp feed info:
https://www.lorextechnology.com/d...ecs_R2.pdf
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Yes, it is ONVIF compatible (uses port 85) and you can view the main and sub streams and hear audio, so saying it is "useless" may have been a bit harsh. That being said, you cannot properly control the light, alarm or send audio to speaker via ONVIF. 2 way audio did not work for me with ONVIF Profile S in TinyCam. The Dahua gDMSS app could turn on the light , but not off. It's a good cam if you want to use the native QSee app. I think there are better options at this price point if you want to keep things local and don't need the light/siren
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Yes, it is ONVIF compatible (uses port 85) and you can view the main and sub streams and hear audio, so saying it is "useless" may have been a bit harsh. That being said, you cannot properly control the light, alarm or send audio to speaker via ONVIF. 2 way audio did not work for me with ONVIF Profile S in TinyCam. The Dahua gDMSS app could turn on the light , but not off. It's a good cam if you want to use the native QSee app. I think there are better options at this price point if you want to keep things local and don't need the light/siren
Thanks m4ha7ma! ( repped btw )

Ok - that makes sense. ONVIF iirc has not yet caught up with some of the newer features - so I don't think there is an ONVIF profile which meets those features.

the ipcamtalk members have been talking about Blue Iris and this camera / the 8MP version - so they should have a good discussion of how much they were able to get functioning there. iirc the lights they got working.. i'd have to check about the 2 way audio tho.

Wondering why the Qsee app works and the Dahua GDMSS is not on turning off the light - I don't think Qsee has developers who would fork any code base from Dahua - so we should be able to find a native Dahua OEM app that works.
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When attempting a packet capture all commands from the app (light, siren, etc) were sent to the cam via encrypted packets from Q-See's server. I suspect because this is a WiFi only cam you must use a cloud service to initialize WiFi and so the server can handle more of the advanced features.

The "cukoo" initialization failed when using all other OEM apps (IMOU, Dahua, Amcrest). The firmware and perhaps the S/N must be locked to QSee's cloud servers and I suspect this is true for the OEM WiFi only cams of this type.

The only firmware that is available on the internet is QSee's firmware, all the other identical cams (LOOC, Lorex) require firmware updates through the cloud app. I suspect all of the identical WiFi only cams require some cloud access to function.

Even when using Dahua's IP Config app many settings are locked (cannot change ports, limited video adjustment features, etc) so QSee is blocking features via firmware. 2 way audio and light/relay control can work via ONVIF but again, I think QSee has locked these down for cloud only use, probably to make the camera easier to use for the average consumer. For those of us that want to stay out the cloud this cam is not a good choice.

Even if you don't care about the cloud or using the QSee app the darn siren and light have a mind of their own and go off randomly. The camera does not always respond to app commands even with strong WiFi. Also, you cannot turn off the siren if it is triggered by motion, it has to play for the set duration (shortest option is 20 sec)... very annoying at night.
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When attempting a packet capture all commands from the app (light, siren, etc) were sent to the cam via encrypted packets from Q-See's server. I suspect because this is a WiFi only cam you must use a cloud service to initialize WiFi and so the server can handle more of the advanced features.

The "cukoo" initialization failed when using all other OEM apps (IMOU, Dahua, Amcrest). The firmware and perhaps the S/N must be locked to QSee's cloud servers and I suspect this is true for the OEM WiFi only cams of this type.

The only firmware that is available on the internet is QSee's firmware, all the other identical cams (LOOC, Lorex) require firmware updates through the cloud app. I suspect all of the identical WiFi only cams require some cloud access to function.

Even when using Dahua's IP Config app many settings are locked (cannot change ports, limited video adjustment features, etc) so QSee is blocking features via firmware. 2 way audio and light/relay control can work via ONVIF but again, I think QSee has locked these down for cloud only use, probably to make the camera easier to use for the average consumer. For those of us that want to stay out the cloud this cam is not a good choice.

Even if you don't care about the cloud or using the QSee app the darn siren and light have a mind of their own and go off randomly. The camera does not always respond to app commands even with strong WiFi. Also, you cannot turn off the siren if it is triggered by motion, it has to play for the set duration (shortest option is 20 sec)... very annoying at night.
Great info m4ha7m4, thanks.

Hmmm.. wondering if there is a way to "jail break" these
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