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I hate my 5700xt I have all the issues above and have not been able to get it stable. I pop back in my 1070 and my system runs flawless.
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Reviews are scary, same as for all 5700 XT now.
I have used around 15x 5700XT cards by now, 5 of them had the same exact issue - black screens, freeze, restart, can't start PC for a few minutes after that, flipping back switch off and on helps. Usually happens 5-15 minutes into the gaming, though 3DMark runs without issues.
On 4 out of 5 of these crashing cards I could fix it by one of the actions below:
1. Update BIOS, make sure it is the latest one, many stability fixes, especially disabling PCI-e 4.0 even on boards that don't support it originally :-) (don't ask why)
2. Make sure PCI-e slot is running 3.0 version and nothing else, not auto, only 3.0
3. Install the latest driver, if Windows uses something on its own use DDU to remove everything, download new driver (latest), disable internet and install it after restart.
4. Update all chipset drivers, something like MSI Live Update 6.0 works wonders.
5. Enable Auto Undervolting through Wattman.
6. Don't use Wattman at all, yeah I know, but for some undervolting in Wattman was a fix, for others actual Wattman caused the crash.
7. Absolutely no monitoring software, disable or remove everything. Make sure there are no junk overlays, nothing like AMD Overlay or whatever other apps may put on top of your game with small windows and messages popping up.
8. Don't Alt-Tab out of games, caused a crash for some.

Here is a good link that helped me with some of these crashes:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comm...x_5700_rx/
Are they not updated drivers?
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Reviews are scary, same as for all 5700 XT now.
I have used around 15x 5700XT cards by now, 5 of them had the same exact issue - black screens, freeze, restart, can't start PC for a few minutes after that, flipping back switch off and on helps. Usually happens 5-15 minutes into the gaming, though 3DMark runs without issues.
On 4 out of 5 of these crashing cards I could fix it by one of the actions below:
1. Update BIOS, make sure it is the latest one, many stability fixes, especially disabling PCI-e 4.0 even on boards that don't support it originally :-) (don't ask why)
2. Make sure PCI-e slot is running 3.0 version and nothing else, not auto, only 3.0
3. Install the latest driver, if Windows uses something on its own use DDU to remove everything, download new driver (latest), disable internet and install it after restart.
4. Update all chipset drivers, something like MSI Live Update 6.0 works wonders.
5. Enable Auto Undervolting through Wattman.
6. Don't use Wattman at all, yeah I know, but for some undervolting in Wattman was a fix, for others actual Wattman caused the crash.
7. Absolutely no monitoring software, disable or remove everything. Make sure there are no junk overlays, nothing like AMD Overlay or whatever other apps may put on top of your game with small windows and messages popping up.
8. Don't Alt-Tab out of games, caused a crash for some.

Here is a good link that helped me with some of these crashes:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comm...x_5700_rx/
I have a Sapphire Pulse 5700XT that works perfectly fine and overclocks nicely. Not sure why you seem to have issues but seems like you are the common denominator.
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I have a Sapphire Pulse 5700XT that works perfectly fine and overclocks nicely. Not sure why you seem to have issues but seems like you are the common denominator.
You have one, I have used 15 and installing 16th right now. Just read through reviews on most of the 5700 XT cards and you will see what I am talking about.
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You have one, I have used 15 and installing 16th right now. Just read through reviews on most of the 5700 XT cards and you will see what I am talking about.
I've seen a ton of positive reviews for 5700 xt as well as know people with them. If you have used 15 different cards and have issues, don't you think it might be something else you are doing wrong?
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You have one, I have used 15 and installing 16th right now. Just read through reviews on most of the 5700 XT cards and you will see what I am talking about.
Did you completely wipe the nvidia drivers and software when you added the 5700xt?
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I've seen a ton of positive reviews for 5700 xt as well as know people with them. If you have used 15 different cards and have issues, don't you think it might be something else you are doing wrong?
The cards started with a lot of issues, though normally one would just stop after like 3.

That said the Evoke is a terrible card, it has one of the worst thermals of any of the 5700 xt cards and it is really bad. The 3rd parties tried to skimp out on the coolers and it greatly backfired.

The only cards that are currently recommended are the PC red devil, Sapphire Pulse and Nitro, The XFX Thicc 3 (yes they needed 3 in a short time to make it passable) is new but seems to be ok? I think the Gigabyte gaming OC is ok but I haven't seen much on it.

The rest of the cards are pretty poor if not outright disastrous.
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I have a Sapphire Pulse 5700XT that works perfectly fine and overclocks nicely. Not sure why you seem to have issues but seems like you are the common denominator.
Yeah he's not the only one. My brand new r5 3600 had numerous issues. BSoDs, random Windows issues, and very slow POST. Returned my 5700 XT and popped in a 2070 Super and viola! no issues at all. Runs flawlessly. Even with updated chipset, BIOS, GPU, and Windows Updates, the 5700 XT was trash.
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old news
https://www.gamersnexus.net/hwrev...d-revision

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The cards started with a lot of issues, though normally one would just stop after like 3.

That said the Evoke is a terrible card, it has one of the worst thermals of any of the 5700 xt cards and it is really bad. The 3rd parties tried to skimp out on the coolers and it greatly backfired.

The only cards that are currently recommended are the PC red devil, Sapphire Pulse and Nitro, The XFX Thicc 3 (yes they needed 3 in a short time to make it passable) is new but seems to be ok? I think the Gigabyte gaming OC is ok but I haven't seen much on it.

The rest of the cards are pretty poor if not outright disastrous.
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Unless you got an old GPU, the bad ones were not taken back and revised. Even so the thermal reductions aren't enough compared to the competitors. I mean if you want to save money, deal with the rebate and risk of the bad thermals, go for it.
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hyperbole much? even with most of the reviews the differences are a few degrees at best. the only card to avoid hasn't even come up yet. and good case ventilation solves more issues than the card alone.

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Unless you got an old GPU, the bad ones were not taken back and revised. Even so the thermal reductions aren't enough compared to the competitors. I mean if you want to save money, deal with the rebate and risk of the bad thermals, go for it.
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hyperbole much? even with most of the reviews the differences are a few degrees at best. the only card to avoid hasn't even come up yet. and good case ventilation solves more issues than the card alone.
Going off the link you posted it isn't exactly a glowing review over the revision. "acceptable to buy, if you must," as opposed to "absolutely don't buy." Doesn't exactly instill confidence. Keeping in mind the bad unrevised evokes are still in stock in places as they weren't pulled to be fixed so you could still get one of those too.

To each their own.
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I used to have issues with my Vega 64 card too, but I guess they've worked out the bugs since then, cuz it's all stable now. I'll probably wait to get a 5700 series card until the bugs are worked out via updates.
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