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I I paid $12.99 for this at AutoZone. It's their regular price
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Sams is normally about $11.98 everyday price. I always buy from here to feed my DEF hungry Sprinter van.

https://www.samsclub.com/p/bluede...roduct_1_1
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Same stuff, different brand. Way cheaper.. https://www.menards.com/main/c-10098.htm?searchTermToCategory=Def&searchString=KleenDEF&tid=-6550437759767788255
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[QUOTE=sleepyrx;132815450]Exhaust fluid? Is that pretty important like blinker fluid in BMW's?

I drive a diesel BMW, I have to buy this but the car has never complained about blinker fluid being low. Kidding aside, this is regular price.. why is this on FP?

It's 49 cents cheaper at Sam's Club:
https://www.samsclub.com/p/bluede...rod4490189

Yes, I realize Sam's is a membership club. Posting because, 1) they are practically giving away membership and 2) they are located right next to Walmart's
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Diesel owner here, can confirm it's regular price. Not sure
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Exhaust fluid? Is that pretty important like blinker fluid in BMW's?

What the hell is this stuff? literally sounds like a product you sell non-car people.
(I am a car person, just not diesel. Though I wish more diesel cars existed, so people could stop driving a crappy prius with literally no power, rather than a nearly 300hp mercedes that gets similar gas mileage w/ much better performance. Then again prius owners don't buy them for mpg or power, they buy em for the false sense of superiority)

Edit: Just looked it up, it is just as pointless as blinker fluid. It doesn't help your car at all, kind like those pointless cats I took off my midpipe. I take that back actually, the latter actually has a point. When removed, my car's white rear is now constantly covered in soot. Though, worth it for the improved audio & measly
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How is this a "popular" deal? This is the everyday price. It often goes on sale for $9.99 at some of the local tru-value stores.
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It was sarcasm. I had actually updated it to have more about global warming.
You were probably typing as I did it, since I didn't get a reply comment till later

That being said, for the part you did read, had they produced more cars that get 40-50mpg and 300hp, and you'd see a hell of a lot more people driving more environmentally conscious cars. Rather than the prius that was ugly as hell, and literally had a 95-115hp engine for highway use. It's all about not making people choose between 1 goal and a car that's terrible at what it's supposed to do.

It's why Tesla got so big, because they gave cars that went 0-60 in 2.4sec, while also being fully electric and looking great. Showing the world you didn't need to make a sacrifice in the fight. Sure the model 3 looks funny and doesn't have nearly as much power, but ti's still hella fun to drive. Elon is the reason why the rest of the auto industry took notice and started producing them. Once they're all fully committed, you're going to have a ton of amazing, great performance, beautiful environmentally friendly cars (as long as you ignore the fact of how most electricity is produced. But it does take the bulk of the emissions away from big cities, and dispersed into sparsely populated areas, helping the most people possible)
Careful with sarcasm, things are so polarizing today that you can't even be subtle, it comes across as literal.

Diesel had a great shot for smaller cars, but trying to serve two masters (low CO2, which it has; and low particulates, which it doesn't usually have) was always a challenge, especially when the two main environmental regulators in the US and Europe were demanding different things. That also was the main impetus for VW to screw up like they did. Desperation and cockiness, all for a couple mpg or 5-10 hp.
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Careful with sarcasm, things are so polarizing today that you can't even be subtle, it comes across as literal.

Diesel had a great shot for smaller cars, but trying to serve two masters (low CO2, which it has; and low particulates, which it doesn't usually have) was always a challenge, especially when the two main environmental regulators in the US and Europe were demanding different things. That also was the main impetus for VW to screw up like they did. Desperation and cockiness, all for a couple mpg or 5-10 hp.
Yeah, VW literally killed turbo diesels for the world. Had they just been honest about it, it wouldn't have been a big thing, and they could have improved the technology. They could have either picked the car it would go into more efficiently, dropped the Cd (coefficient of drag) like they do for electrics & sports cars, or used smaller engines to appease government regulators. Or, designed different engines for different markets. If Mercedes was able to make amazing turbo diesels (Bluetec), which gave prius mpg performance, sports car hp performance, and still looked sexy, you know it could be done.

There was so much more room for improvement. If Mazda was just able to develop an engine that significantly boosts the gasoline engine's efficiency to levels we could have never dreamed of (not on the market yet, but worth googling), turbo diesels which were only a small percentage of the market had massive headroom as well.

1st google result for Mazda's Skyactiv X Gasoline Engine, for those too lazy
https://spectrum.ieee.org/transpo...combustion



ON A SIDE NOTE:
High power cars don't necessarily have to be low efficiency. One of my cars is ~555hp (545hp stock), I'll leave the model out of this. But, one night while driving slow and not pushing it, I got 34mpg the entire 30mi trip home. It's rated for 25mpg highway, with twin turbos helping the efficiency numbers. The world (boys and younger men mostly) know it for it's 2.8s 0-60 time, or rather the original 3.2s when released in 2008 (2009 model). Just something for thought, when you can actually have a super powerful car, with normal sedan mpg numbers. (which is not to say the mpg doesn't plummet when you push it hard. I saw 4mpg in a video when 2 idiots were hitting 190+mph on the highway. They later got arrested due to posting the video online.)

It's ridiculous that this ultra low emissions car has a Cd of 0.26, unheard of for most cars, especially when you see it's a >3850lb, big boxy car (lovingly referred to as the world's fastest brick). Especially when compared to the Lamborghini Countach of the 70's & 80's (the lambo every boy had on his bedroom wall), which looked super aerodynamic, but was actually Cd 0.42 since they never tested in a wind tunnel.

All manufacturers could technically make super low Cd numbers, especially when the USA finally allows for the removal of side mirrors, in favor of cameras w/ screens inside the vehicle. But, these panels are more costly & difficult to produce, so they go for the cheapest options. Just look at those flat portions above wheel wells, which people assume is for aerodynamics, but is rather because it's easier for them to machine them with a flat surface. Computer software now allows for all these tests to be done prior to development, and testing after is more for confirmation and precise real world numbers. They shouldn't be reserved for super high end cars, or in electrics where it helps save them money by providing a greater "tank" mileage range.
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