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Not sure what laptops you've gamed on, bit a 2060 is not going to "struggle" with a 4K screen on most games. You should be able to run most AAA games at native 4K on high detail (even ultra, for some games 1-2 years old or older). The only downside to me is it doesn't have the 144hz refresh rate that the MSI Stealth (gaming) series have. I could care less about a high refresh rate for gaming (60hz is fine by me), but I have really gotten used to 144hz for 2D desktop usage.
Looking at reviews of Geforce 2060 online it says:

"Whereas the Nvidia GeForce GTX 1060 was designed for 1080p gaming and could scrape by playing some games at 1,440p, the RTX 2060 has mastered high-frame rate Full HD gaming, delivering excellent 1440p results and somewhat playable 4K gaming hovering around 30 frames per second (fps)."
https://www.techradar.com/reviews...e-rtx-2060

This is a review of the desktop version of the card as well which is usually more powerful then it's mobile counterpart. So seems like 4K gaming on a 2060 is really going to depend on the game but I guess the point is moot anyways. You could always change the resolution to 1080P for gaming but playing in the non native resolution of a monitor is usually not recommended, but I guess turning on AA in games would help when playing at 1080P.
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I see this logic everywhere and I just don't get it.
You won't be able to see much a difference between 1080p with antialiasing and 4k on a screen this size, and a 2060 will run new games at 1080p with max settings and full antialiasing.
The 4k monitor is there to make text and webpages look nice. It's silly as a programmer how much I appreciate a 4k display and how little I care about one as a gamer.
It looks silly to me that you just jumped to conclusion that this is a Gaming Laptop and I am irritated by people like you who only see any Laptops with Graphics card as Gaming Laptop and provide idiotic feedback based on that. As per your so called expert opinion then all high end productivity machines like XPS 15, HP Spectre X360 15 (i7-9750H), Lenovo Thinkpad Xtreme Gen 2 and Gen 1...are are bad and overpriced Laptops right...I guess they are even worse since they have GTX 1650 which is way slower than RTX 2060.
These laptops are productivity laptops and that does not mean "ONLY CODING" . If you work on Photoshop or 4K video editing using Adobe Premiere Pro or Sony Vegas Studio then you will appreciate a 4K display and this configuration which can excel in the GPU acceleration using a powerful GPU.
Now lets come in the Display Part which to you for only gaming. There is no such Gaming Laptops at this price point which comes with a 100% Adobe rGB display and Pantone certified Calibration out of the box. Normally they are like 95% sRGB and 60% to 70% Adobe RGB at max which are not suitable for any kind of professional editing work. And 4K 15.6" display is pretty sharp compared to a 1080P display and you will notice even with your untrained eyes. Plus while zooming at a particular portion of the Photo or Video, a 4K display provide far sharper images than a so called 1080P display.
So, from now on, stop jumping to judge ant Laptops with a Powerful Graphics card based on your game requirements.
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Hopefully you purchased with a CC that has price protection. If not, I hope that you are within the return period as that's a pretty hefty price difference. Hope that you can get the lower price.
Unfortunately, most if not all CC companies have done away with or seriously hampered ​ price protection.
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For the specs this looks pretty darn good.

I just order Aero 15 OLED with 1660ti, 8gb, 256 SSD for $1399 and debating whether or not to return it and get this one. However I think, based on reviews that this one gets pretty hot...

Anyone has solid arguments to get is over the Aero15 ? One nice thing about Aero 15 is that it has a great screen, SD card, barebone config so I can put better memory and faster SSD in it.

Debate Smilie Thanks for any replies.
AERO15 and Y740 have the best cooling at the moment. I would avoid ASUS and MSI if cooling is an issue.
Bought a $1330 Lenovo Y740 with i7-9750H, RTX 2070, 16Gb RAM, 256 Gb SSD, 1TB HDD, 144Hz. (No OLED though)
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Looking at reviews of Geforce 2060 online it says:

"Whereas the Nvidia GeForce GTX 1060 was designed for 1080p gaming and could scrape by playing some games at 1,440p, the RTX 2060 has mastered high-frame rate Full HD gaming, delivering excellent 1440p results and somewhat playable 4K gaming hovering around 30 frames per second (fps)."
https://www.techradar.com/reviews...e-rtx-2060

This is a review of the desktop version of the card as well which is usually more powerful then it's mobile counterpart. So seems like 4K gaming on a 2060 is really going to depend on the game but I guess the point is moot anyways. You could always change the resolution to 1080P for gaming but playing in the non native resolution of a monitor is usually not recommended, but I guess turning on AA in games would help when playing at 1080P.
Well, for one... this is not the MaxQ (thermally hampered) version of the 2060.

Full specs here:
https://asset.msi.com/pdf/main/us...r-1084.pdf

I have very little issues playing games in 4K on my GTX 1070, and now Vega 56, in my home PC, on a 28" Samsung 4K monitor. The games I play most on PC are Killing Floor 2 (set to 4K ultra) and Anthem (set to 4K high). Both run 60fps no issues (my monitors are 60hz). My cards (currently running the Vega) are slower than the GTX 2060).

Sure, there will be some games where you will have to make compromises. For me, it's usually been enough to drop from ultra to high settings, some or all. Of course, as myself and others have said, you always have the option to drop to 1080P and play that way with the FSAA up. It looks just fine.
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Unfortunately, most if not all CC companies have done away with or seriously hampered ​ price protection.
Yeah it's a big problem. I was not happy with the massive removal of features by Citi in September. Capital One hasn't yet removed price protection from their CC, and I have the Quicksilver.
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AERO15 and Y740 have the best cooling at the moment. I would avoid ASUS and MSI if cooling is an issue.
Bought a $1330 Lenovo Y740 with i7-9750H, RTX 2070, 16Gb RAM, 256 Gb SSD, 1TB HDD, 144Hz. (No OLED though)
The MSI GE75 that Costco had on sale has good cooling. I can't speak for their other models.

I was looking at the Lenovo too, but settled for the RTX 2060 GE75 for $1199.
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Yeah it's a big problem. I was not happy with the massive removal of features by Citi in September. Capital One hasn't yet removed price protection from their CC, and I have the Quicksilver.
Huh ..I didn't know Capital One still had it. Good to know!!
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Well, for one... this is not the MaxQ (thermally hampered) version of the 2060.

Full specs here:
https://asset.msi.com/pdf/main/us...r-1084.pdf

I have very little issues playing games in 4K on my GTX 1070, and now Vega 56, in my home PC, on a 28" Samsung 4K monitor. The games I play most on PC are Killing Floor 2 (set to 4K ultra) and Anthem (set to 4K high). Both run 60fps no issues (my monitors are 60hz). My cards (currently running the Vega) are slower than the GTX 2060).

Sure, there will be some games where you will have to make compromises. For me, it's usually been enough to drop from ultra to high settings, some or all. Of course, as myself and others have said, you always have the option to drop to 1080P and play that way with the FSAA up. It looks just fine.
Definitely depends entirely on the game, I have a 2060 Laptop and it runs Overwatch at Ultra 4k 60FPS no problem, but would struggle to get RE2: Remake to 30fps at 4k Ultra.

Most of your "forever" games and competitive games are going to be fine, but newer single player experiences are likely going to chug. Either way, you can always bump the resolution down.
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Definitely depends entirely on the game, I have a 2060 Laptop and it runs Overwatch at Ultra 4k 60FPS no problem, but would struggle to get RE2: Remake to 30fps at 4k Ultra.

Most of your "forever" games and competitive games are going to be fine, but newer single player experiences are likely going to chug. Either way, you can always bump the resolution down.
I can agree with that. I guess for the games I play, a GTX 2060 is just fine on a 4K screen and will do 60fps with minor quality compromises (if any).

For a laptop, that is of course dependent on whether it's a full card or a MaxQ. I personally would rather deal with the heat and noise than to use one of those.
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