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I'm thinking about that speco NVR....this go well with it? might be able to use one ptz camera to cover a large front yard area.
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I'm thinking about that speco NVR....this go well with it? might be able to use one ptz camera to cover a large front yard area.
Hi Danimal

The Speco NVR should work with this Amcrest PTZ - both are Dahua OEM so they can use the Dahua API to communicate with each other. Check if the NVR is POE+ and if the Camera needs PoE+ - otherwise double check that the Amcrest PTZ includes an AC power adapter ( iirc I think it does ).

remember you may need to sync IP and user / password info.

Should make a nice pairing imho
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Hi Danimal

The Speco NVR should work with this Amcrest PTZ - both are Dahua OEM so they can use the Dahua API to communicate with each other. Check if the NVR is POE+ and if the Camera needs PoE+ - otherwise double check that the Amcrest PTZ includes an AC power adapter ( iirc I think it does ).

remember you may need to sync IP and user / password info.

Should make a nice pairing imho
Thanks mat2000. I just ordered it. My thinking is that having one PTZ can take the place of multiple fixed angle cameras, making my install easier. Sound about right?

I'll look at the Poe+ for the nvr. If not, can i use a poe injector?
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Thanks mat2000. I just ordered it. My thinking is that having one PTZ can take the place of multiple fixed angle cameras, making my install easier. Sound about right?

I'll look at the Poe+ for the nvr. If not, can i use a poe injector?
Hi Danimal,

A PTZ really does not replace multiple fixed angle cameras unless you are manning the PTZ. ( affordable PTZ cameras and well functioning auto-tracking is not yet there )

Still - PTZ cameras can be very useful, especially if you park your car on the street in different spots - or if you have a longer driveway / property...( nice also for watching wild life, scenic camera, .. )

update: still I think you'll like this camera once you start to play with it.
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Thanks mat2000. I just ordered it. My thinking is that having one PTZ can take the place of multiple fixed angle cameras, making my install easier. Sound about right?
They can't really. Very well at least. A camera with PTZ functions is only looking wherever it's looking at a given time. In most cases you're better off with multiple cameras. That's not to say that PTZ isn't useful (and kinda fun). Just not a great replacement for multiple cams with dedicated views.
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Hi Danimal,

A PTZ really does not replace multiple fixed angle cameras unless you are manning the PTZ. ( affordable PTZ cameras and well functioning auto-tracking is not yet there )

Still - PTZ cameras can be very useful, especially if you park your car on the street in different spots - or if you have a longer driveway / property...( nice also for watching wild life, scenic camera, .. )

update: still I think you'll like this camera once you start to play with it.
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They can't really. Very well at least. A camera with PTZ functions is only looking wherever it's looking at a given time. In most cases you're better off with multiple cameras. That's not to say that PTZ isn't useful (and kinda fun). Just not a great replacement for multiple cams with dedicated views.
Thanks for the info. Looks like i need to do some more research. I mistakenly thought that it some sort of motion tracking. I'll do a little more research, and worst case i'll return it and go for fixed cameras.
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Thanks for the info. Looks like i need to do some more research. I mistakenly thought that it some sort of motion tracking. I'll do a little more research, and worst case i'll return it and go for fixed cameras.
In Blue Iris, you could have it start zoomed out, and then zoom to a preset if it detects motion in that zone. Haven't tried that yet though because no PTZ here.
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In Blue Iris, you could have it start zoomed out, and then zoom to a preset if it detects motion in that zone. Haven't tried that yet though because no PTZ here.
I keep going back and forth with getting an nvr or just using my home server for blue iris. This may help me decide.
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I keep going back and forth with getting an nvr or just using my home server for blue iris. This may help me decide.
I've used both and wasn't happy with the NVR. I know others who have switched as well. Might as well try BI if you already have a server or PC to run it.
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Thanks for the info. Looks like i need to do some more research. I mistakenly thought that it some sort of motion tracking. I'll do a little more research, and worst case i'll return it and go for fixed cameras.
This does not. Some higher-end cameras can track motion. But that's not necessarily a solution either. e.g., With two or more subjects that move independently, which does it choose to follow?

Again, not to say that PTZs aren't useful. I have two at my place that I use quite a bit. They also serve as dedicated cams when not in active use, can move to set locations when motion is detected by other cams, can move to different presets at different times of day, etc. e.g., One of mine pulls back to provide a wider overview during the day and then changes view and zooms in to cover an entrance much closer at night which I wouldn't have nearly as good coverage of otherwise.
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I keep going back and forth with getting an nvr or just using my home server for blue iris. This may help me decide.
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I've used both and wasn't happy with the NVR. I know others who have switched as well. Might as well try BI if you already have a server or PC to run it.
Hi Danimal,

Either way - NVR or Blue Iris - nice to have a small PoE ( or in this case POE+ ) switch around in case you need to test things. So I would keep an eye on any deals you may see on a switch. ( note - some like larger used enterprise switches from ebay )
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This does not. Some higher-end cameras can track motion. But that's not necessarily a solution either. e.g., With two or more subjects that move independently, which does it choose to follow?

Again, not to say that PTZs aren't useful. I have two at my place that I use quite a bit. They also serve as dedicated cams when not in active use, can move to set locations when motion is detected by other cams, can move to different presets at different times of day, etc. e.g., One of mine pulls back to provide a wider overview during the day and then changes view and zooms in to cover an entrance much closer at night which I wouldn't have nearly as good coverage of otherwise.
That's helpful. Would love to hear more home uses for a PTZ so I can come up with a reason I need one. They look fun!
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I keep going back and forth with getting an nvr or just using my home server for blue iris. This may help me decide.
If you good with IT and able and like to tweak system to your needs i'd say go with BI. You will be not limited to one brand and will be able mix and match, but as average consumer, better stick with NVR as set and forget system.
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