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Lorex - 8-Channel, 4-Camera Indoor/Outdoor Wired 4K UHD 3TB NVR Surveillance System - White $549.99

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Only 8 Channel, but this seems like a decent price for a 4k IP PoE system with a 3TB NVR, and four 4k (8MP) cameras. Link to the model number (NK183-48ABE) on Lorex site is included below. It looks to be the same as NK183-48ABE-W on Lorex site that is $749 after 25% off with Lorex CYBER25 code.

Cameras have the Smart Deterrence feature with dual motion-activated LED warning lights, remote activated siren, and built-in mic and speaker for 2-way talk.

Includes Smart Home Voice Control and is compatible with Amazon Alexa, Google Assistant, Apple TV, and Chromecast.

Cameras specs:
Resolution - 4k(8MP) @ 15fps, 4MP @ 20fps, 3MP,2MP @30fps
Image Sensor - 8MP/4k 1/1.8" CMOS
Lens - 2.8mm F1.6/Fixed

Best Buy 4 Camera Model
https://www.bestbuy.com/site/lore...Id=6362512

Link to model on Lorex website:
https://www.lorextechnology.com/4...-48ABE-1-p

Also available is the 6-camera model at Best Buy for $699
https://www.bestbuy.com/site/lore...Id=6362513
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FYI - also

Costco carries the 8 camera kit, $799.99 is currently the typical price for this kit.

Lorex 8-Channel 4K NVR Security System with 2TB HDD and 8 4K Cameras
Item 1326273
Model TN81828B8-E
Your Price 799.99
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FYI - also

Costco carries the 8 camera kit, $799.99 is currently the typical price for this kit.

Lorex 8-Channel 4K NVR Security System with 2TB HDD and 8 4K Cameras
Item 1326273
Model TN81828B8-E
Your Price 799.99
The Costco kit was on sale for $699 through the end of September. I was desperately hopeful it would fall to the same or a lower sale price on Black Friday, but no such luck.
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I am also watching these 4k NVR deals. Just want to point out the obvious, the Costco 8-camera set has 2TB NVR while this 4-camera set has 3TB NVR. I only need 6 cameras. Wondering whether this unit will also work with 3MP cameras that I currently have.
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FYI - also

Costco carries the 8 camera kit, $799.99 is currently the typical price for this kit.

Lorex 8-Channel 4K NVR Security System with 2TB HDD and 8 4K Cameras
Item 1326273
Model TN81828B8-E
Your Price 799.99
As always very helpful.
Hiw is the capture angle of these cameras and lens size?
My next door just installed Lorex from Costco and FOV is very narrow, but obviously quality is high since you can see a lot more details.
Also do these depend in cloud for notifications or purely NVR. I guess the main question is if NVR dies, can we use POE router and use these individually with BI or Tiny Cam?

Last question, do these have AI like person detection or pet ignore?
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This + AMEX $30 off $300 on 2 AMEX cards is pretty tempting. $12 filler and this is $540 after tax
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This + AMEX $30 off $300 on 2 AMEX cards is pretty tempting. $12 filler and this is $540 after tax
What do you mean 2 Amex cards.
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As always very helpful.
Hiw is the capture angle of these cameras and lens size?
My next door just installed Lorex from Costco and FOV is very narrow, but obviously quality is high since you can see a lot more details.
Also do these depend in cloud for notifications or purely NVR. I guess the main question is if NVR dies, can we use POE router and use these individually with BI or Tiny Cam?

Last question, do these have AI like person detection or pet ignore?
Thanks
HI Ride The sky

as per the spec sheet:
Viewing Angle (Horizontal) 111°
Lens/Lens type 2.8mm F1.6/ Fixed

So it would be considered a wide angle camera ( 2.8mm is getting wide - where you can typically expect to start to see distortion on the edges.. )

They also state some sort of "Smart Features: Person and Vehicle Smart Motion
Detection" - I have not read many reviews yet on this topic, so can't say how well this works.

https://www.lorextechnology.com/d...eet_R1.pdf
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HI Ride The sky

as per the spec sheet:
Viewing Angle (Horizontal) 111°
Lens/Lens type 2.8mm F1.6/ Fixed

So it would be considered a wide angle camera ( 2.8mm is getting wide - where you can typically expect to start to see distortion on the edges.. )

They also state some sort of "Smart Features: Person and Vehicle Smart Motion
Detection" - I have not read many reviews yet on this topic, so can't say how well this works.

https://www.lorextechnology.com/d...eet_R1.pdf [lorextechnology.com]
Thanks, I read the specs after my post, but I have no reference point so I couldn't tell what 111 degrees meant. 111 is really wide, I have wyze and I feel like it's already too wide and Wyze is 110 degrees, and there is absolutely distortion. Wyze also has 2.8mm so this is pretty similar to wyze, except aperture is F2.0 with 1/2.9" CMOS, which is super tiny. I don't see the sensor size of this cam, but it has to be much bigger.

Does F make any difference? 2.0 vs 1.6?
If all those features especially the sound recording and the smart motion detection/AI really work, this is a fantastic deal, but looking at back of the NVR it looks no different than $100 NVRs.. It does say each camera can be connected independently, does this mean I can run 1 ethernet cable from my router to garage and have two cameras connect via POE router without having to run cables all the way to NVR as long as they are in same network (looks like each cam can have their own IP within network and NVR will find them?)

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Does F make any difference? 2.0 vs 1.6?
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It does say each camera can be connected independently, does this mean I can run 1 ethernet cable from my router to garage and have two cameras connect via POE router without having to run cables all the way to NVR as long as they are in same network (looks like each cam can have their own IP within network and NVR will find them?)
Hi Ride

Q: Does F make any difference? 2.0 vs 1.6?
A: Yes.
Though I rarely check that spec as it may not always be denoted on specs published.
Best of course is to actually test the cameras and compare with others with the same test and test conditions. In the end most of the choices we have in terms of deals is significantly limited - for example I often can not find deals on cameras with 3.6mm or 4mm lenses only ones which have 2.8mm lenses. Of course if we go to more of a professional shop we can find those options - however often at a price increase.

Q: Can I not end run all the POE cables to the NVR.
A: Yes.
This is the great thing about IP PoE. You can do all sorts of networking related setups to it if you need to create a more flexible solution.
IF possible, I DO recommend you run the cable from your IP PoE camera to the NVR provided the run is less than 100M / 330ft. It will make for a more reliable setup.
If you want you can setup a PoE switch in another location and run the uplink cable to another switch, and connect the NVR to that switch. Then you would manually add the cameras to the NVR using external IP addresses from the WAN side of the NVR. ( I've read there are issues connecting a downstream switch directly to the NVR PoE ports .. )
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Lorex tech support sucks - I will NOT buy another one
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Lorex tech support sucks - I will NOT buy another one
Hi Katbeatina

What particular aspect?

Note - there are vendors with better customer service reputations, you typically can expect to spend a little more for their kits.
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Hi Katbeatina

What particular aspect?

Note - there are vendors with better customer service reputations, you typically can expect to spend a little more for their kits.
I had 3 Swann systems, 1 I out grew & 1 broke, their tech support is in a foreign country & pretty hard to understand.
So I decided to try Lorex 1 year ago. I had 1 camera go out, trouble shot it and changed the camera, everything worked find. I asked for a replacement under their warranty & NEVER received any help or a replacement camera. Now 2 other cameras are doing the same thing, I put in a ticket, nothing, I tried to put in another one, it said they are working on the 1st one, even though it had been 2 weeks.
I wrote on FB the problems & ow they want to trouble shoot with me through FB messenger. NOT Once has anyone called me - I am a senior citizen & they know & still treat me this way.
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I had 3 Swann systems, 1 I out grew & 1 broke, their tech support is in a foreign country & pretty hard to understand.
So I decided to try Lorex 1 year ago. I had 1 camera go out, trouble shot it and changed the camera, everything worked find. I asked for a replacement under their warranty & NEVER received any help or a replacement camera. Now 2 other cameras are doing the same thing, I put in a ticket, nothing, I tried to put in another one, it said they are working on the 1st one, even though it had been 2 weeks.
I wrote on FB the problems & ow they want to trouble shoot with me through FB messenger. NOT Once has anyone called me - I am a senior citizen & they know & still treat me this way.
Hi Katbeatina,

note: Some people are having luck bringing in their Credit Card companies into warranty issues like this.
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Hi Katbeatina,

note: Some people are having luck bringing in their Credit Card companies into warranty issues like this.
I never thought of that - thanks.

What I really would like is to talk to a live, in the USA, person.
Am I dreaming? LOL
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