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Trying to understand how Cell Phone deals (with or without activation) work.

5 10 December 10, 2019 at 12:24 PM
Hi All,
I am new to this game and I am trying to understand how certain deals work. Specifically, I would like to understand how cell phone (specifically, the iPhone Pro) deals work relative to the consumer already having a cellular plan.

So, I was looking at some of the Black Friday deals that happened after Thanksgiving and noticed that (seemingly) all had wording to the effect of "deal only works if you are signing up for a new plan". That is, if I already had, say, a plan with Verizon, then I presume that I could only make use of some Walmart/Costco/Bestbuy/etc deal if I signed a new plan for Sprint/T-Mobile/etc.

Is that correct, or do I not understand things?

If you already have a cellular plan, which I imagine is most of us, how do you find a deal for a new iPhone if you are not looking to change your plan?

Thank you.

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Hi All,
I am new to this game and I am trying to understand how certain deals work. Specifically, I would like to understand how cell phone (specifically, the iPhone Pro) deals work relative to the consumer already having a cellular plan.

So, I was looking at some of the Black Friday deals that happened after Thanksgiving and noticed that (seemingly) all had wording to the effect of "deal only works if you are signing up for a new plan". That is, if I already had, say, a plan with Verizon, then I presume that I could only make use of some Walmart/Costco/Bestbuy/etc deal if I signed a new plan for Sprint/T-Mobile/etc.

Is that correct, or do I not understand things?

If you already have a cellular plan, which I imagine is most of us, how do you find a deal for a new iPhone if you are not looking to change your plan?

Thank you.
You can sign up for as many cell phone plans as you want so long as the cell phone companies will approve you. The problem you'll run into with most companies is the contract term and per-device-access fees you pay each month for the service. So an $80 verizon single line plan for an iPhone will cost $80, plus taxes and fees, plus the $20/month "connection fee" plus whatever else they tack on, plus the device Equipment Installation Plan (EIP). Each of these things make the cell phone company money, and the only way to save any money used to be to degrade service to a lower tier (not unlimited everything, not as many minutes, etc) or to get a deal on the cost of the phone.

With T-Mobile (and most of the costco plans and promotions that have iPhone and new service line requirements) you won't get a contract, there are no device connection fees, and you can sign up for as many new lines as you want and cancel after 2 billing cycles with no penalty. Not to mention, TMobile uses EIPs to make money, not fees or service costs, so you can just buy your discounted phone to save money,pay overall less for the device and service, then if you REALLY REALLY WANT, you can discontinue with TMobile and take your phone to whatever service you want to use).

BTW, i post a lot about tmobile, but I'm just a fan of transparent pricing. I'm just a guy, not paid or endorsed or any of that bullshit. I work in IT contracts, so it's kind of my thing and why I prefer them.
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You can sign up for as many cell phone plans as you want so long as the cell phone companies will approve you. The problem you'll run into with most companies is the contract term and per-device-access fees you pay each month for the service. So an $80 verizon single line plan for an iPhone will cost $80, plus taxes and fees, plus the $20/month "connection fee" plus whatever else they tack on, plus the device Equipment Installation Plan (EIP). Each of these things make the cell phone company money, and the only way to save any money used to be to degrade service to a lower tier (not unlimited everything, not as many minutes, etc) or to get a deal on the cost of the phone.

With T-Mobile (and most of the costco plans and promotions that have iPhone and new service line requirements) you won't get a contract, there are no device connection fees, and you can sign up for as many new lines as you want and cancel after 2 billing cycles with no penalty. Not to mention, TMobile uses EIPs to make money, not fees or service costs, so you can just buy your discounted phone to save money,pay overall less for the device and service, then if you REALLY REALLY WANT, you can discontinue with TMobile and take your phone to whatever service you want to use).

BTW, i post a lot about tmobile, but I'm just a fan of transparent pricing. I'm just a guy, not paid or endorsed or any of that bullshit. I work in IT contracts, so it's kind of my thing and why I prefer them.
Thank you for this. Very helpful.

So, then, if you are a current Verizon customer with an active plan (my situation), then, what is the most realistic way to find a discounted iPhone 11?

Switching to another carrier?
Updating my current Verizon plan?
Something else?

Thanks in advance.
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Thank you for this. Very helpful.

So, then, if you are a current Verizon customer with an active plan (my situation), then, what is the most realistic way to find a discounted iPhone 11?

Switching to another carrier?
Updating my current Verizon plan?
Something else?

Thanks in advance.
I'm bumping on this, because I would love to know how this works. So far, it seems to this newb, that the best way to get a deal on a new iPhone 11 is to sign up for a new plan with a carrier, or to upgrade your existing plan.

However, my question is, if I already have a plan with Verizon, what is, likely, the best way to get a deal on a new iPhone 11 *without* adding or changing my existing Verizon cellular plan?

Thank you
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I'm bumping on this, because I would love to know how this works. So far, it seems to this newb, that the best way to get a deal on a new iPhone 11 is to sign up for a new plan with a carrier, or to upgrade your existing plan.

However, my question is, if I already have a plan with Verizon, what is, likely, the best way to get a deal on a new iPhone 11 *without* adding or changing my existing Verizon cellular plan?

Thank you
Wondering the same thing. Seems like the offers lately all involve switching to an unlimited plan which basically results in a net increase in the monthly bill over 24 months, negating any device incentives.
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