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Motile 14" Laptop: AMD Ryzen 5, 14" 1080p, 8GB RAM, 256GB SSD EXPIRED

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Walmart has Motile 14" Laptop (M142, Black, Rose Gold or Silver) on sale for $299. Shipping is free, otherwise select free store pickup where available. Thanks Kevork

Available Colors:Specs:
  • AMD Ryzen 5 Processor
  • 14" 1920x1080 Display
  • 8GB Memory
  • 256GB Solid State Drive
  • Radeon Vega 8 Graphics
  • Windows 10
  • Ports
    • 2x USB 3.0
    • 1x USB 2.0
    • 1x HDMI
    • 1x USB Type-C
    • 1x Audio Combo Jack
  • Weight: 2.55 lbs
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The 14-inch MOTILE performance laptop features a 1080p screen that is Tuned by THX to bring a crystal clear picture for any and all of your tasks. With a high-powered 2nd Gen AMD Ryzen 5 Mobile Processor with Radeon Vega 8 Graphics you can tackle all of your daily tasks and projects with ease and haste-and with a slim and lightweight frame you can take it everywhere you go. Also featuring THX Spatial Audio technology for headphones, this laptop brings your entertainment to life.

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Last Edited by wildpig1234 February 19, 2020 at 07:52 PM
Laptop can crash if headphones or a magnet is on top of bottom right corner!

Video Proof: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ECPSC_1jHE8
Hopefully this post helps you prevent future crashes / sleep issues.

Attached is a picture of location of magnetic item that causes laptop to sleep.

Customer service contact details:

Support number: 1-877-435-7955
Support email: support@MEwarrantyservices.com

I called and sent email and the information does not exist.

The correct phone number for support is (800) 379-3820. Hours are 7 am-4 pm Pacific Time. They are closed on the weekends.
Update: Just called customer service on Jan 10th. The above number (even though it announces as Overpowered customer service) is valid for Motile laptops and the rep confirmed that the warranty for M142 is valid for 1 year and you just call this number for any issues. .

Warranty Information:
Excerpts from Motile Limited Warranty booklet included in box:
"This MOTILE purchased and delivered new in the original packaging to the original purchaser is warranted for personal non-commercial use by MOTILE against manufacturing defects in materials and workmanship for a limited Warranty period of Ninety (90) days for labor and One (1) year for Hardware from the original date of purchase."
"However, the warranty on this Product is limited to Ninety (90) day hardware and labor limited warranty when purchased or used for commercial purposes."
"Product freight must be prepaid by the original purchaser and shipped in its original packaging or packaging affording an equal degree of protection."


## USER MANUAL ATTACHED AT BOTTOM ##

Bios, Software and Driver Update:
http://www.motilecustomerservice.com/

Additional driver files saved by a user from device manager: https://slickdeals.net/forums/showpost.php?p=131944567&postcount=195 .
This seems to have additional stuffs that is not included on Motile site

To enter the BIOS, keep pressing the DELETE key during the boot up

Bios update hints: (Be careful. Don't attempt unless you REALLY know what you are doing)
*Also note that some issues are appearing with the BIOS/EC update*:
https://slickdeals.net/forums/showpost.php?p=133422332&postcount=740

BIOS update guide:
https://slickdeals.net/forums/showpost.php?p=133337630&postcount=495
https://slickdeals.net/forums/showpost.php?p=133339559&postcount=504

If you brick the laptop while updating BIOS, follow Darkshade214 to reflash it, he puts it in amazing details right here:
https://slickdeals.net/f/13709582-motile-14-performance-laptop-fhd-amd-ryzen-5-with-radeon-vega-8-graphics-thx-spatial-audio-tuned-by-thx-display-8gb-ram-256gb-ssd-hdmi-front-720p-hd-ir-camera-299?p=134509370#post134509370

If you prefer to do manual bios update only or just want to stay on original bios and not having the laptop forcing a bios update, one way is to uninstall the THX thing under control panel, program and feature immediately after the initial windows setup. A lot of people report that the THX thing seems to force update of bios which a lot of time doesn't go all the way through the process. I did the uninstall the first thing after i boot up the laptop from windows setup and it never forces any bios update ever on me. I am not having any problem with the original 1.03 bios so that's why i am staying with it and since the new bios doesn't report to add anything new i don't bother with it. I do lose that THX but then again that thing only works over headphone or HDMI and i think it's somewhat of a gimmick anyway. THX screen profile still remain even if you do the THX uninstall.

If having problem with the laptop hanging while restart and not completing the restart sequence (especially after a clean window installation),
turn off fast restart in control panel/power option/system settings

Indepth outside review: https://www.notebookcheck.net/Wal...260.0.html

Currently the laptop has no support for waking up from sleep by lid opening. You have to press a key to wake it up. Closing the lid will put it to sleep though.

The HDMI port on the laptop has been verified by multiple people as HDMI 2.0 good for 4K 60hz.

USB Type C port on this Motile has been tested and only has data transfer function. NO power delivery (PD) for charging over usb C port.
NO DP function for video output via the usb C.

Display: IPS

Chassis: aluminum/magnesium

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3500U

SINGLE dimm slot with 8GB 2666 (speed limited by laptop to 2400) DDR4 sodimm installed. 2GB of the ram is used by Vega iGPU (amount of ram dedicated to iGPU cannot be changed). If you insert a 4GB sodimm, then only 512MB will be used by the iGPU. Anything bigger than 4GB sodimm will result in 2GB being used by iGPU. The Motile has been tested to work with 32GB sodimm.

Two M2 SSD slots: first slot comes occupied with Biwin 256GB M2 SATA SSD and can use both M2 SATA and NVME.
Second unoccupied M2 slot recognizes only NVME ssd. The first slot appears to be pcie x4 while the second slot appears to be x2. It's not clear what will happen speedwise if both are occupied by nvme ssd

Fn+ F5 changes between Basic mode and Silent mode fan speed.
This does have a small difference on multicore cpu benchmarks.
Maybe also battery life when on battery?
Also you can tell which mode you are in by looking at the LED light on the power button: solid is basic mode, slow dimming /brightening is silent mode.
After a clean windows install if you don't have the onscreen status display driver installed for this, you won't see it onscreen but the fn F5 would still work and the status is displayed by the LED on the power button.

What does Fn+F2 do? It disables/reenables the winkey that's inbetween the Fn and Alt key. Stupid i know....

See below in the attachment section for getting the OSD on screen display of FnF2 and FnF5 to work as well as having OEM info inside the about windows property as well as original motile wallpaper for those that do a clean windows install
https://slickdeals.net/forums/showpost.php?p=135064988&postcount=1673


FIX FOR LOW SOUND OUTPUT FROM SPEAKERS:

1) Be sure the Sound Blaster Connect application is running.
### The Sound Blaster Connect Software can be downloaded from the Windows Store, as well as other places. #### https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/p...verviewtab
2) Select a sound profile (Game/Music/Movie, etc)
3) and make sure the EQ is turned on.
Makes a night and day difference

Currently the bios has no support for reverse or persistent function key, meaning there is no support for being able to use the function keys without also holding down Fn key and pressing a function key. You can try the software remapping below:


FUNCTION KEY REMAPPING:
To reverse FN keys to skip having to hold down FN + FKey:
https://keytweak.en.softonic.com/

My Mapping:
Key #120 remapped to 'Volume Down' - Default to 'F9'
Key #121 remapped to 'Volume Up' - Default to 'F10'
Key #119 remapped to 'Mute' - Default to 'F8'
Key #129 remapped to 'F10' - Default to 'Volume Up'
Key #131 remapped to 'F9' - Default to 'Volume Down'
Key #133 remapped to 'F8' - Default to 'Mute'


There is also no bios support currently for keeping the backlit keyboard on constantly without it turning off when no key is pressed for a while



GAME TESTING:
on battery power:
Diablo 3 ROS (1920x1080, high settings for all): 45+ FPS
WoW Classic in intense battle like Alterac Valley, low settings, FPS fluctuates between 40-80


LINUX DISTROS TESTED:
Ubuntu 19.10 - everything works
Zorin OS 15 - Needed to apt update/upgrade to get latest kernel to support Ryzen 5 3500U graphics.
(Installs with support only for 800x600, update fixed everything)
Linux Mint 19.2 - Everything works. Updated to latest Kernel to support Ryzen 5 3500U graphics

THX Color Profile:
Here are all the color profile files off my Motile M142 R5
https://drive.google.com/open?id=...TpAaO9lp_P
or
https://www.4shared.com/zip/GWMDk...files.html
Restart laptop after placing files in C:\Windows\System32\spool\drivers\color
then right click on desktop -> Display settings -> Color Profile drop down and select Tuned by THX

INCREASE DISPLAY BRIGHTNESS:
To increase the display's max brightness download Radeon Software [amd.com], open the new software, navigate to Settings > Display and disable Vari-Bright. The display will now be ~50% brighter.(Many owners report no difference).

VIDEO ON RAM, SSD, WIFI UPGRADE:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iITc_8IBPK0



Several members have reported success in using USB C PD to barrel adapters to charge. There are a number to choose from on Amazon, Aliexpress, and eBay.

USB-C power adapters

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product...CFDA&psc=1 (compact size but there is at least one user reports that there are instance of it disconnecting whenever motile reaches its peak power which can be as high as 66W when BOTH cpu and gpu are very stressed like in 4K playback sometimes.)
https://slickdeals.net/f/13814333-29-59-zerolemon-4-ports-usb-c-pd-charger-with-60w-and-18w-power-delivery-on-amazon?v=1 (seems to work fine even when at peak power. Reportedly will supply over 60W on the usb C for momentarily if needed)

Here are adapters reported working (size: 5.5*2.5mm with yellow inside color)
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/33036838470.html
https://www.amazon.com/Cablecc-Ad...07SJ4CB27/

Video on using the M2 slot to do eGPU (not very practical but it's good to know something like this works):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Su3WUNyYklE


Other Resources:
https://www.reddit.com/r/motile/
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can you charge through the USB-C port?
Nope sir
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I bought this when it was 349 just last week. will walmart refund the difference?
Same here. I don't think they will refund the difference.
https://help.walmart.com/app/answ...ing-policy
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What is the price breakdown for each item on your receipt? I think they lowered the price of the bundle items to prevent the return trick.
I'm not able to view the new order since it's still "processing." But the old bundle was 322 for laptop, 65 for bag, 12 for Nickel mouse. Unfortunately wal-mart doesn't adjust for price differences so have to buy new and return old.
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Same here. I don't think they will refund the difference.
https://help.walmart.com/app/answ...ing-policy
It's worth it to me to return it to the store and reorder online.
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Anyone know how the Vega 8 benchmarks compare to integrated Intel?
Depends on which intel igpu you are talking about. The 10th gen stuff beats it slightly, the other stuff loses to it (any where from colossally to marginally).
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Love the rose gold on pics 3-7 but other references who a light pink. Pretty sure it's light pink. Hopefully see more real life pic reviews. I feel like I'll see this go down further in the future.
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From this review it says it's a 3000 series mobile apu: https://www.notebookcheck.net/Wal...260.0.html [notebookcheck.net]

Also AMD was weird with their naming scheme for mobile processors. The 3500u and 3300u are zen+ not zen 2. The 2500u and 2300u were original zen processors. In the walmart product description it also says "2nd Gen AMD Ryzen 5" which should mean the zen+ 3000 series processors.

Also the people from previous slickdeals link I posted earlier said they received the 3000 series processors.
3000 series were the intermediate mobile processors on the Picasso line (12nm).
The actual Zen2 won't be out until 2020 and they'll be 7nm.
Given Intel's issue with 10nm, I wonder if the 7nm will have any production issues.
Again, AMD will best Intel once they come out.
https://www.notebookcheck.net/Iri...582.0.html

Regardless, they may be more energy efficient due to smaller size, but at 15W (max 30W for short bursts), no laptop can compete long term with desktops for CPU/GPU intensive software. You're better off with a desktop or dedicated GPU laptop.
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What is the price breakdown for each item on your receipt? I think they lowered the price of the bundle items to prevent the return trick.
So, I did not want the laptop, just brought and cancelled to see. Breakdown down to 289 for the laptop, 8 dollar for the mouse, and 18 for the backpack.

The previous buy and return accessory was marginally better.

I have the 3200U version, and the Costco HP i5. If the question is power then the HP i5 is better in GPU and CPU is the 10th gen core is better in laptops and it is dual channel.

HP backlit keyboard is better, the Motile is too soft.

Motile M.2 slot one is NVME and the other is SSD. The SSD is occupied and the NVME is the empty. Motile beats the HP is one area that is design, the Motile is thinner and lighter. Feels more premium. The IR camera in the motile is good for Windows hello if your into bio-metrics. The HP has likely better warranty and support, Motile is ?. HP has only one M.2 slot, but is has a room for 2.5 in HDD or SSD.
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This is a good deal for an i5 equivalent R5 system.
However, if you do not need a new laptop this year, I'd wait until next year.
1. AMD Renoir will be out and will increase competition.
2. Intel i5-1035G4 and G7 will be 12 months old and will have to come down in price to compete. Maybe the G7 will be favored over the G5 for these low end laptops to compete with AMD.

I'd expect similar prices for low end laptops next BF but with better mobile APUs and dual RAM slots, so IMO best to wait.
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Since it is not advertised, I am assuming this is TN screen? Meaning it is pretty lousy, but hey what do you expect at 299 price.
It is a low grade IPS screen. It backlit bleed is better than some mid-grade ASUS laptops.
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Plastic body, correct?
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It is a low grade IPS screen. It backlit bleed is better than some mid-grade ASUS laptops.
The review link posted another SDer says IPS screen.

"The Motile M141/M142 uses the exact same Chi Mei N140HCA-EAC IPS panel as found on the competing Acer Swift 3 SF314 and Asus VivoBook 14"
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Backlit keyboard ? I know it sounds dumb, but I need.
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