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Please Give Us The Option To Remove The "Just For You" Section At The Top Of The Page

656 118 December 21, 2019 at 10:38 AM
I noticed there is a "Just For You" section recently appearing at the top of the page. It is taking up a great deal of space and it really should be an optional section to display on the frontpage. Please put the option in "Personalize Frontpage" under "Display Preferences" to remove "Just For You" so we can all continue to enjoy using this website without feeling imposed upon.

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It's a bit too intrusive and not useful. I would prefer to customize and personalize what deals I want to see on the frontpage myself. Currently, the frontpage is already littered with too many deals unrelated to my interests, and I have noticed lately that SD has tried to squeeze in too many deals on the frontpage. Please give us the options to personalize the frontpage to our liking. I prefer to personalize the frontpage and keep it neat and simple, with only deals I am interested in. Thank you for your time to solicit inputs from SD members hug
sorry to have missed your comment previously but just a heads up in case you weren't aware that you can already personalize your frontpage (meaning the regular fp section...not the just for you test).

in classic there's a "preferences" link and in redesign it's called "personalize frontpage" on the top right of the front page section. there you can set the preferences to "like" or "dislike" categories or stores, which will either mix in some deals that are not yet fp (so you see them sooner) or remove deals that you "dislike" so you don't see them at all.
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When I open Slickdeals, my workflow is to quickly glance at what's new, and if nothing that is new interests me, I close it.
  1. The inclusion of both the Featured Deals and Just For You rows means that I now have to scroll down the page after opening it in order to begin seeing Frontpage Slickdeals, which is the only section on the "main" panel of the homepage I care about. Before, I could start seeing Frontpage Slickdeals as soon as the page loaded. And as long as there was at least one deal on the first row that I'd seen the last time I loaded the page, scrolling was unnecessary, which was nice.
  2. As others have stated, I've probably seen all the Just For You items already and don't want to see them again.
  3. Unlike the Featured Deals row, all the items in the "Just For You" row have a "FOR YOU" orange box in the upper right of the item which, at first glance, looks identical to the "NEW" box on new items in Frontpage Slickdeals. This similarity frustrates me after I spend time thinking about why it seems like I've already seen this "new" item and then read the box to realize that it is in fact not new.
  4. On some computers I use, the "Just For You" row is there, and sometimes it is not, so, unlike the Featured Deals row, I can't even unconsciously browse past it.
On the plus side, I have not noticed the issue where Just For You items are already expired.
Thanks for the very detailed and honest feedback. We'll take it into account as we continue to work on it and let you know when we introduce the option to hide it!
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I also can't get rid of "just for you", but only on one computer. At home I use Opera and the bar is not there. At work I use Chrome and the bar is there and I can't get rid of it.

In an earlier post it was stated that it shouldn't be there any more. I have cleared my cache but it still won't go away.

As for my opinion on it, I don't like it. First of all, I question the relevance. Right now it's showing me an link for Victoria's Secret sleep wear and another for a women's winter jacket. I can't imagine that I've ever clicked on a deal that would have anything to do with those things (I'm a middle aged white male who has never bought women's clothing on line). Same with the Cricket Wireless link. I've never shown any interest in that kind of thing here.

Second, it shows links for things that I've already bought. If I clicked on a link for an iPad three months ago and bought it, I'm unlikely to care about iPad deals now. Amazon has this same exact problem. It's worse on Amazon because they know I bought something already. I get that Slickdeals might not know I bought it, but it's still annoying to me.

Third, I like to scroll through all the deals and see what might interest me. I do it every day. I don't need or want duplicate copies of some deals at the top of the page. I don't want to see things twice.
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I also can't get rid of "just for you", but only on one computer. At home I use Opera and the bar is not there. At work I use Chrome and the bar is there and I can't get rid of it.

In an earlier post it was stated that it shouldn't be there any more. I have cleared my cache but it still won't go away.

As for my opinion on it, I don't like it. First of all, I question the relevance. Right now it's showing me an link for Victoria's Secret sleep wear and another for a women's winter jacket. I can't imagine that I've ever clicked on a deal that would have anything to do with those things (I'm a middle aged white male who has never bought women's clothing on line). Same with the Cricket Wireless link. I've never shown any interest in that kind of thing here.

Second, it shows links for things that I've already bought. If I clicked on a link for an iPad three months ago and bought it, I'm unlikely to care about iPad deals now. Amazon has this same exact problem. It's worse on Amazon because they know I bought something already. I get that Slickdeals might not know I bought it, but it's still annoying to me.

Third, I like to scroll through all the deals and see what might interest me. I do it every day. I don't need or want duplicate copies of some deals at the top of the page. I don't want to see things twice.
Thanks for your feedback, snowdog850. We're ultimately trying to help people find the most relevant content a lot easier/quicker, and we'll take your feedback into consideration as we continue tweaking the relevance.

We're working on introducing the option to hide the row and will let you know when that's out.
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Thanks for your feedback, snowdog850. We're ultimately trying to help people find the most relevant content a lot easier/quicker, and we'll take your feedback into consideration as we continue tweaking the relevance.

We're working on introducing the option to hide the row and will let you know when that's out.
I appreciate that, and I agree that it's always a good goal.
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It was gone and now its back for me. Its terrible, full of bad expired deals
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Hi Everyone,

Thank you for all your patience as we continued to tweak and test this. We spent a lot of time listening to everyone's feedback and ensuring deals are relevant and not expired.

We just released the option to hide the "Just for You" row for those who find the section in the way but hope that most of you have found it additive to the overall Frontpage experience.

Slickdeals has hundreds of deals posted everyday -- a lot of which are relevant for many people but never reach the Frontpage. We hope to better surface these types of deals in order to ensure you're saving money on all the things you care about.

Please let me know if you have any questions/feedback. We're working hard to continue to improve the Frontpage experience, and your feedback is invaluable in shaping it.

Best,
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Hi Everyone,

Thank you for all your patience as we continued to tweak and test this. We spent a lot of time listening to everyone's feedback and ensuring deals are relevant and not expired.

We just released the option to hide the "Just for You" row for those who find the section in the way but hope that most of you have found it additive to the overall Frontpage experience.

Slickdeals has hundreds of deals posted everyday -- a lot of which are relevant for many people but never reach the Frontpage. We hope to better surface these types of deals in order to ensure you're saving money on all the things you care about.

Please let me know if you have any questions/feedback. We're working hard to continue to improve the Frontpage experience, and your feedback is invaluable in shaping it.

Best,
Daniel
First: appreciative that you guys are actively listening.

Second: for me personally, even if your machine learned AI nailed what it thinks I would like, perfectly every time, I would still probably turn this feature off. Because sometimes I go way outside my "typical" deal hunt, and am looking for completely new things. AI will never be able to suss that out, at least until pre-cog stuff starts working. Stick Out Tongue

I assume your algorithm is looking at my previous click history, and comparing those items with others who have also clicked those things (and feeding me things THEY like or bought). Maybe put more weight on items where I have voted, and even more weight on items where I have commented. Maybe max weight on click throughs where I bought something. Fine.

The problem is, your AI has NO idea, using this method, that all of a sudden, I am interested in seeing LEGO deals, whereas I never did before. Maybe they aren't for me, I'm looking for a family member. Maybe I just got a wild hair and hit a mid life crisis and want to buy a crap ton of Lego sets (not far from the truth, there!). Maybe I am an avid "watcher" of certain kinds of items that I have never voted on, commented on, or bought (it's going to miss those too).

Lots of reasons why I don't like being pigeonholed and force fed what your AI thinks I should like. It's borderline insulting, not because it's mostly wrong, but because of the principle and the implications.

If your intention truly is to winnow down the sometimes overwhelming amount of deals fed to us, we can already do that by filtering. Problem solved. Maybe make that more robust if people want more.

But if your goal is trying to feed us more targeted stuff so we buy more stuff, I totally get that, it's not a non-profit after all. But just say it! Most of us can probably handle that radical honesty. Big Grin Let me help:

"We are currently testing different models in order to increase revenue, because "x" - we hope you appreciate the fact that this is a business site with costs associated to keep it running and relevant. In order to provide the best experience for you, some concessions need to be made in consideration of revenue generation. We sincerely appreciate your eyeballs and interaction, and hope to continue to serve as your preferred deal site in the future"


My .02 And again, thank you, sincerely for even listening. Many sites would not.
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First: appreciative that you guys are actively listening.

Second: for me personally, even if your machine learned AI nailed what it thinks I would like, perfectly every time, I would still probably turn this feature off. Because sometimes I go way outside my "typical" deal hunt, and am looking for completely new things. AI will never be able to suss that out, at least until pre-cog stuff starts working.

I assume your algorithm is looking at my previous click history, and comparing those items with others who have also clicked those things (and feeding me things THEY like or bought). Maybe put more weight on items where I have voted, and even more weight on items where I have commented. Maybe max weight on click throughs where I bought something. Fine.

The problem is, your AI has NO idea, using this method, that all of a sudden, I am interested in seeing LEGO deals, whereas I never did before. Maybe they aren't for me, I'm looking for a family member. Maybe I just got a wild hair and hit a mid life crisis and want to buy a crap ton of Lego sets (not far from the truth, there!). Maybe I am an avid "watcher" of certain kinds of items that I have never voted on, commented on, or bought (it's going to miss those too).

Lots of reasons why I don't like being pigeonholed and force fed what your AI thinks I should like. It's borderline insulting, not because it's mostly wrong, but because of the principle and the implications.

If your intention truly is to winnow down the sometimes overwhelming amount of deals fed to us, we can already do that by filtering. Problem solved. Maybe make that more robust if people want more.

But if your goal is trying to feed us more targeted stuff so we buy more stuff, I totally get that, it's not a non-profit after all. But just say it! Most of us can probably handle that radical honesty. Let me help:

"We are currently testing different models in order to increase revenue, because "x" - we hope you appreciate the fact that this is a business site with costs associated to keep it running and relevant. In order to provide the best experience for you, some concessions need to be made in consideration of revenue generation. We sincerely appreciate your eyeballs and interaction, and hope to continue to serve as your preferred deal site in the future"


My .02 And again, thank you, sincerely for even listening. Many sites would not.
Hi BruceInCola,

First, I really appreciate your feedback. I do agree with you that we can't read your mind, and that's for sure a pitfall of recommender systems overall.

Of course, we're a business. We need to make money. But, our primary goal is NOT to just grow our revenue.

The problems we're trying to solve are:
  1. Thousands of deals are posted everyday but most are never discovered.
  2. Most deals on the Frontpage are highly irrelevant. For example, I live in Los Angeles. I will never in a million years need a lawn mower, so why do I see a lawn mower deal?
Ultimately, if we can provide more visibility for deals to the people who would be interested in them, that's a win-win for both the people who post deals and the people in the market for them.

Again, appreciate your feedback. We're constantly researching and talking with Slickdeals users to get feedback on the things we're working on.

Feel free to message me if you have any other questions/comments/thoughts.
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Cool. I get it.

The problem is that either the algorithms just aren't there yet, or some other reason, but as the model currently is, it's just adding to that noise you are trying to filter out. For me at least, and I see from reading above I'm not alone.

I think it may be a situation where if it's not perfect, it's just in the way (because it's also feeding us stuff we would never be interested in). Kind of a mini version of the front page deals as they are.
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