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Speak for yourself. If WIFI6 is of no `immediate benefit` to you, no problem, but that only pertains *to you*. And WIFI6 adapters are readily available. For example, you can go on Amazon.com right now, pick from several and have one as early as today.
Speak for yourself. If 10GbE is of no `immediate benefit` to you, no problem, but that only pertains *to you*. And 10Gbps NICs are readily available. For example, you can go on Amazon.com right now, pick from several and have one as early as today.

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Most homes weren't built in the last 15 years or so no most homes aren't pre-wired. Of the ones that are, there's no guarantee it's with cat5e.
Might depend on the area, but just about every home in my area is build around in the late 90s early 2000s, and they all have Cat5e.

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While yes, cat5e will work with 10GbE, it's a minimum. There simply isn't enough shielding to prevent signal loss over runs beyond a few feet. That means you're going to get fluctuations in speed and won't be maxing out the bandwidth like you would with proper cabling.
Wrong. Cat5e can do 10Gbps up to 147ft if properly terminated with solid core pure copper cable. That is an enormously long distance, most homes don't even come close to 147ft. Without fluctuations at full bandwidth.

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All that aside, I'm not sure why you think 10GbE is such a killer feature to wait for. 10GbE is about moving huge amounts of data across a network. Gigabit is enough to stream 4K 60fps to several clients, which is probably already at the more extreme end of typical user demand. But hey, if the few minutes it takes you to copy a movie to your nas is too long to deal with, sure, investing in 10GbE will shave a couple minutes off.
I already explained it in previous post. If you have no WiFi 6 devices (no one does), there is no benefit to having WiFi 6. With 10Gbps, your existing setup with old Cat5e can benefit by increasing speed by AN ORDER OF MAGNITUDE (read: 10x). Applications include streaming 4k, 5k, 8k remuxes, etc. There is a huge benefit for existing hardware, where as with WiFi 6, only like a couple of flagship devices available right now even support it.

TLDR: Upgrading WiFi standards is great. Now it's time for 10Gbps ethernet ports. Long overdue.
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Speak for yourself. If 10GbE is of no `immediate benefit` to you, no problem, but that only pertains *to you*. And 10Gbps NICs are readily available. For example, you can go on Amazon.com right now, pick from several and have one as early as today.
You're confused. I never said 10GbE wasn't readily available. And I never said *you* wouldn't benefit from it. I don't know what you do on your network. But, I clearly explained *the conditions* in which 10GbE is of benefit and pointed out the simple fact that a *typical* household bandwidth demand is easily satisfied with gigabit.

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Might depend on the area, but just about every home in my area is build around in the late 90s early 2000s, and they all have Cat5e.
That's possible. It may also depend on the builder. I know at least some of them offered cat5e as an `upgrade`. It could be that others used cat5e as standard.

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Wrong. Cat5e can do 10Gbps up to 147ft if properly terminated with solid core pure copper cable. That is an enormously long distance, most homes don't even come close to 147ft. Without fluctuations at full bandwidth.
Yeah, that looks good on paper/in specs but real world tests & usage disagree.

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I already explained it in previous post. If you have no WiFi 6 devices (no one does), there is no benefit to having WiFi 6. With 10Gbps, your existing setup with old Cat5e can benefit by increasing speed by AN ORDER OF MAGNITUDE (read: 10x). Applications include streaming 4k, 5k, 8k remuxes, etc. There is a huge benefit for existing hardware, where as with WiFi 6, only like a couple of flagship devices available right now even support it.
There are several people in this thread alone who have bought this WIFI6 router without having any actual AX devices and they all report the same thing - greatly increased stability and speeds. Tell all of them "there is no benefit to having WiFi 6".

Now, regarding streaming 4K video or any other media.. Upgrading your lan to 10GbE does not make you stream things any better or any faster that it does with gigabit. So, that "ORDER OF MAGNITUDE", which is actually in the 4x ballpark, not 10x as you claim, is UNUSED BANDWIDTH. This is not rocket science. Playing back a 4K stream that uses 50mbps, it is going to play back at 50mbps regardless of how much bandwidth your network has, period. Where 10GbE benefits is as I said, when moving HUGE amounts of data, for example transferring raw 4K footage, or massive assets... NOT for things like streaming music and video.

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TLDR: Upgrading WiFi standards is great. Now it's time for 10Gbps ethernet ports. Long overdue.
What are you talking about? 10GbE has been available for nearly 20 years. There's a reason why you don't see consumer-grade 10GbE hardware --- because typical consumers DO NOT BENEFIT from all the extra bandwidth. And the reason 10GbE hardware has come down in price over the last couple years is because of a huge secondary market... because 10GbE is not new.
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You're confused. I never said 10GbE wasn't readily available. And I never said *you* wouldn't benefit from it. I don't know what you do on your network. But, I clearly explained *the conditions* in which 10GbE is of benefit and pointed out the simple fact that a *typical* household bandwidth demand is easily satisfied with gigabit.
Good, you're learning. You made the exact same assumptions about me too with WiFi 6. I literally copied & pasted that from you. So you're arguing with yourself here.

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Yeah, that looks good on paper/in specs but real world tests & usage disagree.
Nope. 100% of solid core pure copper cat5e runs 147ft and under can do 10Gbps if properly terminated. Full bandwidth, no fluctuations. The conservative official specs are the "on paper" scenario, the 147ft is real world.

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There are several people in this thread alone who have bought this WIFI6 router without having any actual AX devices and they all report the same thing - greatly increased stability and speeds. Tell all of them "there is no benefit to having WiFi 6".
Over WiFi 5? Unless they're coming from something older than WiFi 5 and they have WiFi 6 devices, I doubt it. "Incremental" upgrade is a better term if going from WiFi 5 to 6. Certainly not an order of magnitude like 1GbE to 10GbE.

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Now, regarding streaming 4K video or any other media.. Upgrading your lan to 10GbE does not make you stream things any better or any faster that it does with gigabit. So, that "ORDER OF MAGNITUDE", which is actually in the 4x ballpark, not 10x as you claim, is UNUSED BANDWIDTH. This is not rocket science. Playing back a 4K stream that uses 50mbps, it is going to play back at 50mbps regardless of how much bandwidth your network has, period. Where 10GbE benefits is as I said, when moving HUGE amounts of data, for example transferring raw 4K footage, or massive assets... NOT for things like streaming music and video.
Incorrect. Speeds are literally 10x. And yes there is benefit, especially if what I propose happens. i.e. ethernet ports on routers and NASes offer 10Gbps ports. PCI-e NICs can be had for under $100 now. Multiple people on your network streaming 4k, 5k, 8k remuxes would absolutely use more than 1Gbps or 4Gbps. I'm not talking compressed WebDL quality via internet stream, I said remux network stream. Add in DirecTV genie media servers, file transfers, pulling from internet, etc. 8k is like the biggest topic at CES 2020. So streaming 8k remuxes is a distinct possibility in the near future. Having over 1Gbps will absolutely be beneficial for that. The number of devices per home is only increasing.

Your faux argument where people don't need speeds over [insert convenient number for your argument here] is misguided. And even if we assume your erroneous argument to be correct, the same argument can also apply to WiFi 6.

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What are you talking about? 10GbE has been available for nearly 20 years. There's a reason why you don't see consumer-grade 10GbE hardware --- because typical consumers DO NOT BENEFIT from all the extra bandwidth. And the reason 10GbE hardware has come down in price over the last couple years is because of a huge secondary market... because 10GbE is not new.
The context is 10Gbps ports in consumer / somewhat affordable hardware. You know this is the context as per my previous post, stop playing dumb.

Your faux argument where people don't need speeds over [insert convenient number for your argument here] could also apply to WiFi 6. Your same hypothetical magical consumer that you somehow for sure know "can't benefit from 10Gbps" would also not benefit from WiFi 6.

Again, with WiFi 6, you actually have to have a WiFi 6 device in order to benefit. A small subset of flagship devices in 2020 right now even support WiFi 6. With 10Gbps, your Cat5e from the year 2000 can move data up to 10x faster. WiFi seems to be upgraded every 5 years or so, which is great. Now we're due for consumer hardware to have 10Gbps. How are you having difficulty parsing this simple argument?

Your position then is that you're okay with high end consumer routers only having 1Gbps in 2020, 2030, 2040? What is your overall point?
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Good, you're learning. You made the exact same assumptions about me too with WiFi 6. I literally copied & pasted that from you. So you're arguing with yourself here.
You should follow my lead then because apparently you haven't learned that wifi and wired are apples and oranges.

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Nope. 100% of solid core pure copper cat5e runs 147ft and under can do 10Gbps if properly terminated. Full bandwidth, no fluctuations. The conservative official specs are the "on paper" scenario, the 147ft is real world.
So I guess we're to believe your opinion over all the real world tests, reviews, and first-hand experience to the contrary? No thanks.

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Over WiFi 5? Unless they're coming from something older than WiFi 5 and they have WiFi 6 devices, I doubt it. "Incremental" upgrade is a better term if going from WiFi 5 to 6. Certainly not an order of magnitude like 1GbE to 10GbE.
I'm inclined to believe people's observations of their own wireless networks. I'm not inclined to argue with them about what they're experiencing. Also, if you think WIFI6 is an "incremental upgrade" from WIFI5 then you clearly haven't read or don't understand the spec.

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Incorrect. Speeds are literally 10x. And yes there is benefit, especially if what I propose happens. i.e. ethernet ports on routers and NASes offer 10Gbps ports. PCI-e NICs can be had for under $100 now.
...No....., not incorrect. You don't seem to understand there are other bottlenecks, especially when you've introduced any consumer-grade hardware into your setup. If you want to take real advantage of 10GbE then you need to upgrade a lot more than just your router.

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Multiple people on your network streaming 4k, 5k, 8k remuxes would absolutely use more than 1Gbps or 4Gbps.
Gigabit already provides enough bandwidth for this, and countless people are already doing it.

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I'm not talking compressed WebDL quality via internet stream, I said remux network stream.
High-bitrate network streams/backhauls are typically in the 50-65mbps range. Not nearly enough to saturate gigabit. And, I'm not sure why you keep rambling about 8k or remuxing. There's almost no REAL 8k material available, and remuxing is simply modifying what streams are present in the given container. Remuxing will never result in more bandwidth demand unless you are doing something stupid like adding extra audio tracks. If you're confusing remuxing with re-encoding, and you're winding up with higher bitrate streams then you clearly don't know what you're doing there either. All that aside, how many households even have access to high bitrate feeds or stream silly homemade remuxes? Very, very, very, very few.

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Add in DirecTV genie media servers, file transfers, pulling from internet, etc. 8k is like the biggest topic at CES 2020. So streaming 8k remuxes is a distinct possibility in the near future. Having over 1Gbps will absolutely be beneficial for that.
Just stop with the "8k remuxes" nonsense. It's only proving how little you know on this subject. Now, all that other stuff you listed, yeah, that stuff has been common place for years and how much demand for consumer 10GbE has it generated? Virtually none.

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The number of devices per home is only increasing.
Ironically, that's exactly one of the reasons why WIFI6 is such a jump forward. You really need to read about the deployment of new technologies WIFI6 is bringing to the table, and how it relates to what you said. Oh, and btw, consumer networking trends are wireless, not wired. People generally don't like having wires running everywhere. They don't like bothering with it and they don't like how it looks. There's clear preference for wireless over wired in the consumer market.

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Your faux argument where people don't need speeds over [insert convenient number for your argument here] is misguided. And even if we assume your erroneous argument to be correct, the same argument can also apply to WiFi 6.
It's clear now the reason you're making laughable comments like this are due to a real lack of knowledge of the subject. We can't have a legitimate discussion about it until you've figured out, at a minimum, that wireless and wired networks are apples & oranges that service different primary demands. The fact that you inter-change them so freely shows a blatant lack of understand of that simple fact.

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The context is 10Gbps ports in consumer / somewhat affordable hardware. You know this is the context as per my previous post, stop playing dumb.
As you've already been schooled, there's a reason you haven't seen 10GbE hardware at the consumer-grade level. Again, consumer usage doesn't create any real demand for it, and there are several other bottlenecks in consumer setups that negate the advantage of having so much extra bandwidth. Consumer-grade hardware is just now barely starting to scratch at those bottlenecks unless you've got a very expensive setup designed specifically for high-speed data xfer, in which case you've gone beyond even high-end consumer-grade systems.

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Your faux argument where people don't need speeds over [insert convenient number for your argument here] could also apply to WiFi 6. Your same hypothetical magical consumer that you somehow for sure know "can't benefit from 10Gbps" would also not benefit from WiFi 6.
I don't deal with hypotheticals. Every network I work on exists in the real world. Every speed test we do is in real world conditions. All the bandwidth usage I observe is real world usage. And to further correct you, I didn't say nobody would benefit from 10GbE, I said only those with both specific needs & appropriate hardware would utilize it. And, the idea that if a person wouldn't benefit from 10GbE, they also wouldn't benefit from WIFI6 is plain idiocy for far too many reasons worth listing. You've got a lot to learn about networking in general.

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Again, with WiFi 6, you actually have to have a WiFi 6 device in order to benefit. A small subset of flagship devices in 2020 right now even support WiFi 6. With 10Gbps, your Cat5e from the year 2000 can move data up to 10x faster. WiFi seems to be upgraded every 5 years or so, which is great. Now we're due for consumer hardware to have 10Gbps. How are you having difficulty parsing this simple argument?
Comments like this make it really hard to take you serious at all. To be clear, you're expressing your opinions just fine. The problem is that it's all based on assumption and ignorance of the subject rather than real world data. It's blatantly obvious you haven't read these specs, and/or don't understand them. You keep citing spec sheet numbers while completely ignoring every field test, which is all of them, that proves diminished real world results.

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Your position then is that you're okay with high end consumer routers only having 1Gbps in 2020, 2030, 2040? What is your overall point?
I've neither stated nor implied that's even remotely close to my position. Your question is based purely on confused imagination rather than anything I've actually said. And what's my point? If you have to ask then everything I've said has gone over your head, which is no surprise when considering how little knowledge you have of the subject. It's obvious networking isn't your wheelhouse - best stick to things you actually know instead of wasting your time and mine any further.
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You should follow my lead then because apparently you haven't learned that wifi and wired are apples and oranges.
Your logic can be applied to both, and in both cases your logic is erroneous for the same reasons. i.e. You seem to know for a fact that all households will never need more than 1Gbps wired speeds in perpetuity, yet you know that all households will immediately benefit from WiFi 6. Wrong.

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So I guess we're to believe your opinion over all the real world tests, reviews, and first-hand experience to the contrary? No thanks.
You've never done said real world test. 1000/1000 times what I am saying will hold true. Not debatable, just facts. You are clearly beyond ignorant on the subject.

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I'm inclined to believe people's observations of their own wireless networks. I'm not inclined to argue with them about what they're experiencing. Also, if you think WIFI6 is an "incremental upgrade" from WIFI5 then you clearly haven't read or don't understand the spec.
You failed to respond to my main point here. Are these said "people" coming from a high end WiFi 5 router to a WiFi 6 router? In any case, the idea is that 1Gbps to 10Gbps is an order of magnitude improvement. That is a great or even extraordinary improvement. WiFi 5 vs. WiFi 6 is an incremental improvement.

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...No....., not incorrect. You don't seem to understand there are other bottlenecks, especially when you've introduced any consumer-grade hardware into your setup. If you want to take real advantage of 10GbE then you need to upgrade a lot more than just your router.
High speed SSDs are available for consumers. There are already 10Gbps NAS that are coming down in price. Utilizing more than 4Gbps is something a consumer can and will do in the near future. The amount of devices is only increasing, and going from 4k to 8k is going to at least 4x the amount of bandwidth needed. Adding more devices only adds to the bandwidth requirement.

Again, your logic is erroneous and can also be applied to WiFi 6. i.e. to take advantage of WiFi 6, you have to update your device to see an improvement. With 10Gbps, Cat5e can already support it up to 147ft.

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Gigabit already provides enough bandwidth for this, and countless people are already doing it.
Nope, no it doesn't. And the amount of devices per household is increasing over time rapidly. 8k remuxes will soon be a thing, and you will definitely need more than 1Gbps to handle that across a decent sized network.

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High-bitrate network streams/backhauls are typically in the 50-65mbps range. Not nearly enough to saturate gigabit.
Incorrect. At least now you've demonstrated you know absolutely nothing about UHD Blu-ray specs. Some releases require 180Mbps BARE MINIMUM, i.e. if nothing else is going on on your network and only one device is pulling from the NAS. And that is 4k. 8k will see at least a 4x increase in bandwidth requirement.

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And, I'm not sure why you keep rambling about 8k or remuxing. , and remuxing is simply modifying what streams are present in the given container. Remuxing will never result in more bandwidth demand unless you are doing something stupid like adding extra audio tracks. If you're confusing remuxing with re-encoding, and you're winding up with higher bitrate streams then you clearly don't know what you're doing there either. All that aside, how many households even have access to high bitrate feeds or stream silly homemade remuxes? Very, very, very, very few.
At least you admit here that you literally have no idea what the term 4k remux refers to. In this context, it is referring to preserving the full quality found on the original Blu-ray release, usually in the form of a .mkv or .mp4. It is uncompressed 4k. Actual 4k. Anything you stream online is heavily compressed, and not anywhere close to UHD Blu-ray quality.

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There's almost no REAL 8k material available
8k is the biggest topic at CES 2020. Educate yourself before speaking. Wow, another embarrassing blunder on your part. You are egregiously incompetant on this subject. The idea with tech is that it is future proof for the lifecycle of the standard. 8k is sparsely available now, but in the near future it is going to be widely available. Hell, the next olympics will be broadcast in 8k this year. Your argument has now dumbed down to the following: you'll never upgrade to 8k in perpituity, despite this years TVs offering 8k. Wow.

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Just stop with the "8k remuxes" nonsense. It's only proving how little you know on this subject. Now, all that other stuff you listed, yeah, that stuff has been common place for years and how much demand for consumer 10GbE has it generated? Virtually none.
This actually applies to you. You literally just admitted and proved you had no idea what the term "4k remux" even refers to. You then went on to say 8k is irrelevant, even though it was literally the biggest subject of CES 2020. You're egregiously ignorant, and you literally have absolutely no idea what you're talking about, and you admitted as such above. At least this has hopefully been a learning opportunity for you.

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Ironically, that's exactly one of the reasons why WIFI6 is such a jump forward. You really need to read about the deployment of new technologies WIFI6 is bringing to the table, and how it relates to what you said. Oh, and btw, consumer networking trends are wireless, not wired. People generally don't like having wires running everywhere. They don't like bothering with it and they don't like how it looks. There's clear preference for wireless over wired in the consumer market.
You seem to be conflating to things. The act of me also wanting 10Gbps ports in addition to WiFi advancements is something you are unable to parse. Instead, you are framing my argument as "Wifi should not advance at all, instead only wired should advance". No, that was never my argument. I want WiFi 6 AND 10Gbps, period. Your position is that 1Gbps is all we need for wired in perpetuity. Terrible logic on your part. Cat5e has been able to support 10Gbps since 1999, it's time to start offering 10Gbps on high end consumer routers.

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It's clear now the reason you're making laughable comments like this are due to a real lack of knowledge of the subject. We can't have a legitimate discussion about it until you've figured out, at a minimum, that wireless and wired networks are apples & oranges that service different primary demands. The fact that you inter-change them so freely shows a blatant lack of understand of that simple fact.
You didn't reply to that point. Your argument is invalid, as detailed in previous posts. Tech savvy consumers at the high end want 10Gbps ports in addition to WiFi advancements, why are you not able to parse this? Your position is that 1Gbps is all we need for wired in perpetuity. Now that is a "laughable comment".

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As you've already been schooled, there's a reason you haven't seen 10GbE hardware at the consumer-grade level. Again, consumer usage doesn't create any real demand for it, and there are several other bottlenecks in consumer setups that negate the advantage of having so much extra bandwidth. Consumer-grade hardware is just now barely starting to scratch at those bottlenecks unless you've got a very expensive setup designed specifically for high-speed data xfer, in which case you've gone beyond even high-end consumer-grade systems.
10Gbps is already trickling into consumer hardware at the very high end (prosumer). It needs to happen at an accelerated pace though. Again, we need both WiFi 6, 7, 8,... as well as 10Gbps ethernet ports in high end consumer hardware. That is my position, which you are arguing for some reason. You haven't made a single valid point as to why you think your position, i.e. 1Gbps is enough for wired in perpetuity, is valid. Ignorance on your behalf, i.e. you having no clue what a "4k remux" refers to, or that 8k was the biggest topic at CES 2020, is not a valid justification for your egregiously bad position.

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I don't deal with hypotheticals. Every network I work on exists in the real world. Every speed test we do is in real world conditions. All the bandwidth usage I observe is real world usage. And to further correct you, I didn't say nobody would benefit from 10GbE, I said only those with both specific needs & appropriate hardware would utilize it. And, the idea that if a person wouldn't benefit from 10GbE, they also wouldn't benefit from WIFI6 is plain idiocy for far too many reasons worth listing. You've got a lot to learn about networking in general.
Ahahaha, you just pointed out how your OWN logic is terrible. THAT WAS YOUR ARGUMENT, hahahahahahahaha! i.e. Your argument in the original exchanges we had was that you somehow know for a fact no one will benefit from wired 10Gbps, but you know everyone will benefit from WiFi 6. Despite the fact that WiFi 6 requires the device to support WiFi 6 to see the tangible benefits on that device, of which a small subset of flagship devices in 2020 even support WiFi 6. On the other hand, Cat5e, a cable standard from 1999, can pump out 10Gbps up to 147ft. Beautiful champ, I actually feel embarrassed FOR you now.

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Comments like this make it really hard to take you serious at all. To be clear, you're expressing your opinions just fine. The problem is that it's all based on assumption and ignorance of the subject rather than real world data. It's blatantly obvious you haven't read these specs, and/or don't understand them. You keep citing spec sheet numbers while completely ignoring every field test, which is all of them, that proves diminished real world results.
What do you not understand about this bit that you quoted of my previous post. It's not an opinion, it's a fact. Your response should be something along the lines of "yeah, that's true. It would be nice if they'd add 10Gbps ports on the highest end consumer routers so people with wired networks can 10x their bandwidth". Instead, your response here does not actually respond to the content that you've quoted in any facet.

You clearly have never terminated an ethernet run in your life.

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I've neither stated nor implied that's even remotely close to my position. Your question is based purely on confused imagination rather than anything I've actually said. And what's my point? If you have to ask then everything I've said has gone over your head, which is no surprise when considering how little knowledge you have of the subject. It's obvious networking isn't your wheelhouse - best stick to things you actually know instead of wasting your time and mine any further.
So then what is your position? You haven't made a single valid point across all your post. You are factually incorrect on all of your attempted points. Now that you are more educated on the subject thanks to me, I will allow you to reformat a valid argument:

You seem to know for a fact that consumers don't need 1Gbps wired, so at what point/year will you magically change that position? Or is your position still that you're okay with high end consumer routers only having 1Gbps ethernet ports in perpetuity? If you are to reply again, you only need to answer this bit. The other bits are just rehashing points that I've already defeated your logic on in previous posts.
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At this point your replies are like junk mail that will be thrown in the trash, unread. As previously stated, you've proven to be content being completely ignorant and void of any knowledge or experience in this subject. In addition, at least half of what you've "replied" to or have "questioned" are products of your own imagination, not me and not reality. Like I said, any further "discussion" is an absolute waste of time.
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At this point your replies are like junk mail that will be thrown in the trash, unread. As previously stated, you've proven to be content being completely ignorant and void of any knowledge or experience in this subject. In addition, at least half of what you've "replied" to or have "questioned" are products of your own imagination, not me and not reality. Like I said, any further "discussion" is an absolute waste of time.
You failed to make a single valid point. Each point you offered was proven to be incorrect or logically flawed. You failed to actual reply to any of my points, many of which are simply just facts and not debatable.

You literally admitted yourself you have no idea what a remux is, and you said 8k is irrelevant even though it was the biggest topic at CES 2020. You didn't know that Cat5e could do 10Gbps up to 147ft, so you made up lies about how it can't. Your position is that 1Gbps wired ethernet is "fast enough" in perpetuity. You are unbelievably small minded.

I do agree that any further discussion is an absolute waste of time. At least you've realized you've lost the argument, and in embarrassing fashion I might add. To save myself the risk of ever reading another sentence of yours again, you're blocked.
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Unread trash taken out, ...again. You must be one of those people who will say anything no matter how absurd or stupid, just to get attention. That would explain all the idiotic nonsense you post. Pathetic.
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Well yeah, rural areas tend to be frozen in the past. Urban areas have ride share apps, e scooter/bike owners, wifi in most restaurants plus public transportation, order kiosk, and did I mention public transportation. In the countryside progress crawls.
Lol after I read this then when I read the quote you were resonidng to all of a sudden there was a country accent haha that was great thnx +1
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