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EVGA GeForce GTX 1650 SC Ultra Gaming 4GB GDDR5 Graphics Card $120 after $20 Rebate + free shipping

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EVGA GeForce GTX 1650 SC ULTRA GAMING, 04G-P4-1057-KR, 4GB GDDR5, Dual Fan, Metal Backplate Video Card $120 after $20 Rebate + free shipping

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The only reason to justify the existence of a 1650 is to be able to use pcie slot power only without requiring a pcie power connector. Otherwise, there are far better cards or cheaper cards for what it can do. So, cards like this one that requires a pcie connector is hard to justify.
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The only reason to justify the existence of a 1650 is to be able to use pcie slot power only without requiring a pcie power connector. Otherwise, there are far better cards or cheaper cards for what it can do. So, cards like this one that requires a pcie connector is hard to justify.
I agree, look to the RX AMD cards in this price range
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That 135 dollar rx580 8g is still live on ebay. Frames per $$
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Nvidia's naming conventions are stupid these days -- standard, ultra, super, sc, xc, ti, xt...how in the heck are you supposed to keep them straight?

As near as I can tell, this isn't that bad of a deal in comparison to the RX 580 (I have the RX 590) when you look at TDP in addition to performance and price. It looks this card has comparable performance levels, a few FPS less or nearly the same on most games, with a much lower TDP than the 580 (100 v. 185). Apparently noise levels aren't as much of a reduction, though, and the Sapphire Rx 580 is roughly the same noise level as this card (39 v. 38, respectively).

I'm trying to make sense of this segment in the video card market for a potential upgrade to one of my systems. I have an ancient R7 240 that I would like to upgrade, mostly just for convenience as it's a backup system for me.

Based off this review and some Googling: https://www.techpowerup.com/revie...-sc-ultra/
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Nvidia's naming conventions are stupid these days -- standard, ultra, super, sc, xc, ti, xt...how in the heck are you supposed to keep them straight?

As near as I can tell, this isn't that bad of a deal in comparison to the RX 580 (I have the RX 590) when you look at TDP in addition to performance and price. It looks this card has comparable performance levels, a few FPS less or nearly the same on most games, with a much lower TDP than the 580 (100 v. 185). Apparently noise levels aren't as much of a reduction, though, and the Sapphire Rx 580 is roughly the same noise level as this card (39 v. 38, respectively).

I'm trying to make sense of this segment in the video card market for a potential upgrade to one of my systems. I have an ancient R7 240 that I would like to upgrade, mostly just for convenience as it's a backup system for me.

Based off this review and some Googling: https://www.techpowerup.com/revie...-sc-ultra/
Be careful, don't be fooled by their naming convention. This is the normal 1650 (TU117), NOT the super (TU116).
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Nvidia's naming conventions are stupid these days -- standard, ultra, super, sc, xc, ti, xt...how in the heck are you supposed to keep them straight?

As near as I can tell, this isn't that bad of a deal in comparison to the RX 580 (I have the RX 590) when you look at TDP in addition to performance and price. It looks this card has comparable performance levels, a few FPS less or nearly the same on most games, with a much lower TDP than the 580 (100 v. 185). Apparently noise levels aren't as much of a reduction, though, and the Sapphire Rx 580 is roughly the same noise level as this card (39 v. 38, respectively).

I'm trying to make sense of this segment in the video card market for a potential upgrade to one of my systems. I have an ancient R7 240 that I would like to upgrade, mostly just for convenience as it's a backup system for me.

Based off this review and some Googling: https://www.techpowerup.com/revie...-sc-ultra/
That review is for the more powerful 1650 super. This one here is slower than an rx 570
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My son wants to start streaming. Currently using an older pc with an i5-4690k and a 960. Would this be a solid upgrade for him and allow him to stream without severe frame drop?
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Be careful, don't be fooled by their naming convention. This is the normal 1650 (TU117), NOT the super (TU116).
I was trying to figure that out! Thanks for the info. Now the comments make sense.
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My son wants to start streaming. Currently using an older pc with an i5-4690k and a 960. Would this be a solid upgrade for him and allow him to stream without severe frame drop?
I could be wrong, but I don't think the GPU will help with streaming as the stream encoding is happening on the CPU not GPU.
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I could be wrong, but I don't think the GPU will help with streaming as the stream encoding is happening on the CPU not GPU.
Yeah that will just help with framerates in games itself. Streaming uses processing power from CPU, and a 4 core/4 thread CPU like a 4690K could really be brought to it's knees pretty quickly while gaming + streaming.

I would say at least pop a 4770K in there for 4 core 8 threads to give some headroom but those are still hilariously overpriced at like $120 on ebay. I wouldnt invest well over $100 in an old platform like that. Really time for a platform upgrade, and a Ryzen 1600 AF with a cheap B450 board would do wonders for game streaming, plus a cheap RX 580 ($135) as well. Wouldnt cost too much and be a huge upgrade and give some future headroom.
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Yeah that will just help with framerates in games itself. Streaming uses processing power from CPU, and a 4 core/4 thread CPU like a 4690K could really be brought to it's knees pretty quickly while gaming + streaming.

I would say at least pop a 4770K in there for 4 core 8 threads to give some headroom but those are still hilariously overpriced at like $120 on ebay. I wouldnt invest well over $100 in an old platform like that. Really time for a platform upgrade, and a Ryzen 1600 AF with a cheap B450 board would do wonders for game streaming, plus a cheap RX 580 ($135) as well. Wouldnt cost too much and be a huge upgrade and give some future headroom.
I explained to him we need to just do a ryzen build and he is all in, but if course he's 10 and has no income. Thanks for the info. I'll look into a 4770k, but at that price i might as well just move on to the Ryzen build and sell off what i can out of this one (not much).
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My son wants to start streaming. Currently using an older pc with an i5-4690k and a 960. Would this be a solid upgrade for him and allow him to stream without severe frame drop?
Broadcasting With NVIDIA GeForce RTX | NVENC Streaming Explained https://youtu.be/bpoDanWJ4Cw via @YouTube
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I explained to him we need to just do a ryzen build and he is all in, but if course he's 10 and has no income. Thanks for the info. I'll look into a 4770k, but at that price i might as well just move on to the Ryzen build and sell off what i can out of this one (not much).
I had no issue selling my old 4770k build last year for $350. Had 8GB RAM, 4770k, Radeon 7950 plus Z87 mobo. Was honestly surprised it got that much considering everything was original to when I built it back in 2013 except I put in a new $20 SSD and refurb $20 HDD to sell it
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Nvidia's naming conventions are stupid these days -- standard, ultra, super, sc, xc, ti, xt...how in the heck are you supposed to keep them straight?

As near as I can tell, this isn't that bad of a deal in comparison to the RX 580 (I have the RX 590) when you look at TDP in addition to performance and price. It looks this card has comparable performance levels, a few FPS less or nearly the same on most games, with a much lower TDP than the 580 (100 v. 185). Apparently noise levels aren't as much of a reduction, though, and the Sapphire Rx 580 is roughly the same noise level as this card (39 v. 38, respectively).

I'm trying to make sense of this segment in the video card market for a potential upgrade to one of my systems. I have an ancient R7 240 that I would like to upgrade, mostly just for convenience as it's a backup system for me.

Based off this review and some Googling: https://www.techpowerup.com/revie...-sc-ultra/
You mistaken this for the super? That review is about the super, hence when you mentioned everything on your comment, it was meant for the 1650super card. I've seen too many reviews and benchmarks to know that this card, 1650, is even lower than a 570 in performance. Both 580 and 570 can be found around this price right now (see the ebay deal that newegg posted on their site for the $135 580 deal).
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