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I just ordered this 10 min ago to replace a b350 board.
just like most other b450 and x470 boards, using the second m2 slot will disable the SATA and the last pci-e connector (pcie 6)
Not an issue if you dont use either.
Although you should be able to alternatate on and off in BIOS settings, sort of a solution?
For everything to work at once, you need an x570 board... Or so it's been suggested to me.
Edit:. In the manual, under specifications it says that the sata 1 port and pcie 6 port are disabled if you use the second m.2 slot. So not really much a loss.
Anyways, I can't find any user reviews on this board from Amazon or Newegg. Hopefully it does and serves me well.
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I used to build PCs like 20 years ago, but I has been so long, I feel completely out of the loop. I recently got a pre-built AMD gaming PC, but it has limited PCI slots. If I put an NVIDIA 2070 on this would I still have at least a PCI 2.0 slot to be able to use El Gato 4k card PCI card?

My current PC didn't have anything left because the graphics card is humongous.

Thanks if you can provide any insight.

I believe the current motherboard is the MSI BAZOOKA
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this offers 3 PCI-e x 16 slots (see thumbnail).
assuming you mean PCI-e 2.0 and not PCI - you're good.
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I used to build PCs like 20 years ago, but I has been so long, I feel completely out of the loop. I recently got a pre-built AMD gaming PC, but it has limited PCI slots. If I put an NVIDIA 2070 on this would I still have at least a PCI 2.0 slot to be able to use El Gato 4k card PCI card?

My current PC didn't have anything left because the graphics card is humongous.

Thanks if you can provide any insight.

I believe the current motherboard is the MSI BAZOOKA
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I just ordered this 10 min ago to replace a b350 board.
just like most other b450 and x470 boards, using the second m2 slot will disable the SATA and the last pci-e connector (pcie 6)
Not an issue if you dont use either.
Although you should be able to alternatate on and off in BIOS settings, sort of a solution?
For everything to work at once, you need an x570 board... Or so it's been suggested to me.
Edit:. In the manual, under specifications it says that the sata 1 port and pcie 6 port are disabled if you use the second m.2 slot. So not really much a loss.
Anyways, I can't find any user reviews on this board from Amazon or Newegg. Hopefully it does and serves me well.
This is why I went with an x570 board. Just a cheap MSI x570 a pro model that a I got from amazon warehouse deals for like $90. Some people like to wrag on the board but works great for me. This will allow me to use both PCIE 16x slots both m.2 slots and all 6 of the sata ports. Will eventlually be buying a 4000 series chip to replace my 3600.
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This is why I went with an x570 board. Just a cheap MSI x570 a pro model that a I got from amazon warehouse deals for like $90. Some people like to wrag on the board but works great for me. This will allow me to use both PCIE 16x slots both m.2 slots and all 6 of the sata ports. Will eventlually be buying a 4000 series chip to replace my 3600.
it's been so long since i built/upgraded my system that i didnt know this was a thing. bought a B450 board with 6 SATA ports, didnt realize until I bought a nvme stick that using it would disable 2 of them. had i known I would have probably bought a x570. guess that old SATA blue ray drive has to go =p
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it's been so long since i built/upgraded my system that i didnt know this was a thing. bought a B450 board with 6 SATA ports, didnt realize until I bought a nvme stick that using it would disable 2 of them. had i known I would have probably bought a x570. guess that old SATA blue ray drive has to go =p
Hold up, are you installing TWO m.2 NVME sticks?? If it's just one you're putting in it looks like you don't lose any ports and you'd be fine. If you are indeed dropping two in then yes, you will lose those extra ports, just find it surprising you'd have two NVME drives (but good on ya if you do!)
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This is why I went with an x570 board. Just a cheap MSI x570 a pro model that a I got from amazon warehouse deals for like $90. Some people like to wrag on the board but works great for me. This will allow me to use both PCIE 16x slots both m.2 slots and all 6 of the sata ports. Will eventlually be buying a 4000 series chip to replace my 3600.
Well, I don't mind a little compromise. As long as it does not do what my cheap b350 for did, where you only are allowed to transfer one file at a time, without slowing down the sata ports. If I did two separate file transfers on to multiple drives, it would slow the speed down to half.
I guess I'm just being a little paranoid.
Getting a new board was way past due. I was planning on keeping my 3+2vrm b350 alive for the 4700x, just because I pride myself in frugalness. - sort of my hubris.
I'll probably be able to enable PBO for the first time without having a power spike meltdown.

On another note, I've heard that the x570s do use more power but I'm not certain how much more that is. For gaming, this wouldn't task you much power usage for typical gaming 6 hours/day. But when you add up all the less CPU intensive tasks, the costs can add up.
Maybe that was just the initial release of the boards And bios updates have improved idle vrm efficiency since?
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Hold up, are you installing TWO m.2 NVME sticks?? If it's just one you're putting in it looks like you don't lose any ports and you'd be fine. If you are indeed dropping two in then yes, you will lose those extra ports, just find it surprising you'd have two NVME drives (but good on ya if you do!)
Well like I mentioned earlier, the manual says using the second m2 Port will disable SATA 1.
I assume that means the first of the six SATA ports, and not all of them. (And hopefully @ full speed to)
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Hold up, are you installing TWO m.2 NVME sticks?? If it's just one you're putting in it looks like you don't lose any ports and you'd be fine. If you are indeed dropping two in then yes, you will lose those extra ports, just find it surprising you'd have two NVME drives (but good on ya if you do!)
Curious about this also. As I read it, you only start to lose access to things if you are running a second NVMe drive. If you run a single NVMe drive, as far as I can see all other ports (all SATA and the PCIe 2.0x16) are available as normal.
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I just ordered this 10 min ago to replace a b350 board.
just like most other b450 and x470 boards, using the second m2 slot will disable the SATA and the last pci-e connector (pcie 6)
Not an issue if you dont use either.
Although you should be able to alternatate on and off in BIOS settings, sort of a solution?
For everything to work at once, you need an x570 board... Or so it's been suggested to me.
Edit:. In the manual, under specifications it says that the sata 1 port and pcie 6 port are disabled if you use the second m.2 slot. So not really much a loss.
Anyways, I can't find any user reviews on this board from Amazon or Newegg. Hopefully it does and serves me well.
I'm not sure why newer boards do this, but it isn't really a loss. I have something similar and the m.2 works wonderfully. I don't see why most people would need 6 SATA drives in a PC anyways, but that's me.
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These boards are pretty decent. Basically end-run x470 that have factory BIOS for Ryzen 3000 chips. These "budget" boards were designed to be available to System Builders to use in budget desktops running 3600 to 3800x chips.
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* SATA1 port will be unavailable when installing SATA M.2 SSD in M2_2 slot.
* PCI_E6 slot will be unavailable when installing PCIe M.2 SSD in M2_2 slot.

you only lose 1 or the other NOT both.

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I just ordered this 10 min ago to replace a b350 board.
just like most other b450 and x470 boards, using the second m2 slot will disable the SATA and the last pci-e connector (pcie 6)
Not an issue if you dont use either.
Although you should be able to alternatate on and off in BIOS settings, sort of a solution?
For everything to work at once, you need an x570 board... Or so it's been suggested to me.
Edit:. In the manual, under specifications it says that the sata 1 port and pcie 6 port are disabled if you use the second m.2 slot. So not really much a loss.
Anyways, I can't find any user reviews on this board from Amazon or Newegg. Hopefully it does and serves me well.
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This is why I went with an x570 board. Just a cheap MSI x570 a pro model that a I got from amazon warehouse deals for like $90. Some people like to wrag on the board but works great for me. This will allow me to use both PCIE 16x slots both m.2 slots and all 6 of the sata ports. Will eventlually be buying a 4000 series chip to replace my 3600.
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I used to build PCs like 20 years ago, but I has been so long, I feel completely out of the loop. I recently got a pre-built AMD gaming PC, but it has limited PCI slots. If I put an NVIDIA 2070 on this would I still have at least a PCI 2.0 slot to be able to use El Gato 4k card PCI card?

My current PC didn't have anything left because the graphics card is humongous.

Thanks if you can provide any insight.

I believe the current motherboard is the MSI BAZOOKA
I think you'll need a lot more than a motherboard to update your PC.

Let me know if you need help with parts (You should actually make a thread at Tom's Hardware or something like that and PM me a link.)
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