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MSI B450 TOMAHAWK MAX AM4 AMD B450 SATA 6Gb/s ATX AMD Motherboard (back again @ newegg) $115.98

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Went out of stock a few days ago. They just brought it back.
Newegg has it for $114.99 + 0.99 shipping.


It's a popular B450 board (we know, it's not supporting Ryzen 4000, some people want the budget board and not to wait until July for B550).

Features:
  • AMD B450
  • Supports 1st, 2nd and 3rd Gen AMD Ryzen / Ryzen with Radeon Vega Graphics and 2nd Gen AMD Ryzen with Radeon Graphics / Athlon with Radeon Vega Graphics Desktop Processors for Socket AM4
  • For AMD Ryzen Gen3 (R5/R7/R9):
  • Supports DDR4 4133/ 4000/ 3466/ 3200/ 3066/ 3000/ 2933/ 2800/ 2667 MHz by A-XMP OC MODE
  • For AMD Other CPU:
  • Supports DDR4 3466/ 3200/ 3066/ 3000/ 2933/ 2800/ 2667 MHz by A-XMP OC MODE
  • Supports DDR4 2667/ 2400/ 2133/ 1866 MHz by JEDEC
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You cannot OC with this mainboard right?
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You cannot OC with this mainboard right?
This mobo supports it. But in general, OC'ing with Ryzen 3000 comes with limitations. You can go all core, higher clock, or lean on PBO+AOC for auto overclock.

These reddit forum peeps discussed this board in regards to OC here:
https://www.reddit.com/r/overcloc..._ocing_an/
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Can ne1 comment if future B550 boards better? The OP's board is a pretty good board, but will not support 3300x and future Zen CPUs (at least from general Internet info).
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Can ne1 comment if future B550 boards better? The OP's board is a pretty good board, but will not support 3300x and future Zen CPUs (at least from general Internet info).
As most tech folks on Youtube suggest, do not build/buy anything now, and wait for the B550 boards to release (June 16th I think). Paul's Hardware "Do NOT Build This $820 Ryzen 3000 PC (Right Now) - May 2020 Builds" at the 3:20 mark has a nice chart that displays the motherboards and cpu compatibility.

I plan to finally move away from my old i7 920 1st gen + x58 desktop (built in 2009 but still a beast and runs everything) to a Ryzen build once pc parts are available and prices back to normal. I just want native SATA3 (so my SSD can run at its full potential) and USB 3.0 now. I'll probably end up getting the Ryzen 3600 + B550 motherboard.

Off topic, but I hate how pc cases don't offer that many 3.5" hard drive bays. Old cases like my Antec 300 had 6 bays, which I maxed out with 8TB and 4TB hard drives. I get it, SSD or NVMEs for boot drives, but I still need room for the storage mechanical drives.
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As most tech folks on Youtube suggest, do not build/buy anything now, and wait for the B550 boards to release (June 16th I think). Paul's Hardware "Do NOT Build This $820 Ryzen 3000 PC (Right Now) - May 2020 Builds" at the 3:20 mark has a nice chart that displays the motherboards and cpu compatibility.

I plan to finally move away from my old i7 920 1st gen + x58 desktop (built in 2009 but still a beast and runs everything) to a Ryzen build once pc parts are available and prices back to normal. I just want native SATA3 (so my SSD can run at its full potential) and USB 3.0 now. I'll probably end up getting the Ryzen 3600 + B550 motherboard.

Off topic, but I hate how pc cases don't offer that many 3.5" hard drive bays. Old cases like my Antec 300 had 6 bays, which I maxed out with 8TB and 4TB hard drives. I get it, SSD or NVMEs for boot drives, but I still need room for the storage mechanical drives.
Thanks for the comment. About the PC case, I think you would be happy with a Fractal Define R5 or R6.
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Use pcpartpicker to find a case that supports all your 3.5 HDDS.


I wouldn't buy b450 as b550 come here soon in mid June.
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In regards to the OP...this isn't a slick deal as this is normal pricing.
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Have they fix the ryzen 3000 capability on this board yet? I heard this board is still giving people cold reboot and much more rebooting issues.
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Can ne1 comment if future B550 boards better? The OP's board is a pretty good board, but will not support 3300x and future Zen CPUs (at least from general Internet info).
PCI-Express 4 for next gen means fewer lanes needed from the CPU for more options and bandwidth with M.2 storage and graphics cards. No forwards compatibility is most of the story, but no backwards compatibility means you don't have a sideways upgrade / swap path if you have a bunch of machines and want flexibility in your configuration for each box. Longevity of PCI-E 4 was supposed to be short because PCIE5 spec was finished already some time ago, PCI-E just took a long time to get done and implemented, so depending on what manufacturers do, you could be left with something that will be leapfrogged again on that bus. AMD has lost its guarantee.
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The b450 doesn't support next gen zen3 according to AMD recent announcement. This might change since community is really angry about it right now. I would wait until AMD's response to buy any b450 board.
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PCI-Express 4 for next gen means fewer lanes needed from the CPU for more options and bandwidth with M.2 storage and graphics cards. No forwards compatibility is most of the story, but no backwards compatibility means you don't have a sideways upgrade / swap path if you have a bunch of machines and want flexibility in your configuration for each box.
You seem way more knowledgeable about this than I am. Maybe you could help me decide my fate here.
I'm trying to build a semi-budget gaming rig, as I was given a 1080Ti GPU from a buddy that upgraded his to a 2080ti. I'm looking to spend like $700-800 total.
I was considering building a PC based on this mobo, a 3600x chip (later upgrade it to a 3900 or whatever the highest chip is that will fit in this), 32gb ripjaws 3200, a M.2, a larger storage SSD, and case, cooler, etc. According to PCpartpicker that puts me at about $850.

Does this seem like a logical plan? I am looking to purchase the parts in about a month's time.
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Can ne1 comment if future B550 boards better? The OP's board is a pretty good board, but will not support 3300x and future Zen CPUs (at least from general Internet info).
I would reco to wait for the b550 board, it gives you an upgrade path and support for pcie4.0. Individually i would not wait for the b550 but since amd abandoned x470 and b450 boards that would be the play.
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You seem way more knowledgeable about this than I am. Maybe you could help me decide my fate here.
I'm trying to build a semi-budget gaming rig, as I was given a 1080Ti GPU from a buddy that upgraded his to a 2080ti. I'm looking to spend like $700-800 total.
I was considering building a PC based on this mobo, a 3600x chip (later upgrade it to a 3900 or whatever the highest chip is that will fit in this), 32gb ripjaws 3200, a M.2, a larger storage SSD, and case, cooler, etc. According to PCpartpicker that puts me at about $850.

Does this seem like a logical plan? I am looking to purchase the parts in about a month's time.
Don't bother pairing any Tomahawk motherboard with your 3600X. You will experience some type of rebooting startup malfunction problems. If you really want this motherboard, downgrade to 2700X or lower. It will run like a champ Smilie
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As most tech folks on Youtube suggest, do not build/buy anything now, and wait for the B550 boards to release (June 16th I think). Paul's Hardware "Do NOT Build This $820 Ryzen 3000 PC (Right Now) - May 2020 Builds" at the 3:20 mark has a nice chart that displays the motherboards and cpu compatibility.

I plan to finally move away from my old i7 920 1st gen + x58 desktop (built in 2009 but still a beast and runs everything) to a Ryzen build once pc parts are available and prices back to normal. I just want native SATA3 (so my SSD can run at its full potential) and USB 3.0 now. I'll probably end up getting the Ryzen 3600 + B550 motherboard.

Off topic, but I hate how pc cases don't offer that many 3.5" hard drive bays. Old cases like my Antec 300 had 6 bays, which I maxed out with 8TB and 4TB hard drives. I get it, SSD or NVMEs for boot drives, but I still need room for the storage mechanical drives.
Saw that video too, and couldn't agree more on the need to resist buying right now. There's so much transition going on with hardware in the next couple months (imminent 10th gen Intel Core launch, new AM4 motherboards, Ryzen 4000 launch in Q3) that even if you decide the new tech is not for you, it's worth waiting for discounts on the older-gen tech. Also, inventory is low right now due to supply-chain issues which is leading to components like motherboards and video cards being overpriced. Anyone who has a secure-ish job right now has the itch to play around with PCs which is also exacerbating the supply issue further. Whoever can resist the urge will come out ahead.
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